As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ? Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file." It is under inode. Obvious of course, but what is the obvious way of find out what the original setting was? I rename .kde and restart to see what is in the new, working version - you guessed it: nothing, blank, nil, NUL, zilch, ... Removing the entry does not fix the problem (but of course). Does anybody know if SuSE have documented "File Associations" anywhere, and if they have documented a "Normal state"? I'd appreciate any clues as I am getting fed up with all of these 'wonderful options' which involve spending years of study (nothing better to do) to control. If the world goes over to Linux then every technical student at the universities will have to study Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Biology and Linux. Sorry to gripe, but I left M$ for this, and I have spent more time messing with Linux than coding. I would have thought that it was in SuSE's best interest to become involved with end user problems like this. Please be patient with me. Regards, Colin
On Sunday 03 July 2005 05:01, Colin Carter wrote:
As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ?
Because you may want to open it in some other application. No, not gimp, but perhaps krusader or something
Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file."
That is the way it should be. By default, konqueror is the application set to handle directories in kde Your problem must be something else. In your malfunctioning .kde, what do you have in the directory share/services? Or alternatively, do you happen to have a file called index.html in the directory you tried browsing to?
I'd appreciate any clues as I am getting fed up with all of these 'wonderful options' which involve spending years of study (nothing better to do) to control. If the world goes over to Linux then every technical student at the universities will have to study Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Biology and Linux.
Why not? They have to study windows now. Computers that are used for more than toys are necessarily complex and require learning. Please don't say windows doesn't, because it is a blatant lie. More money is spent on windows classes than some countries spend on electricity
On Sunday 03 July 2005 05:01, Colin Carter wrote:
As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ?
Because you may want to open it in some other application. No, not gimp, but perhaps krusader or something Technically I understand what you are saying, and how it applies to 'clicking' on a file, but cannot see how anybody would want to open the parent directory with another program. Never mind, not important for this case.
Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file."
That is the way it should be. By default, konqueror is the application set to handle directories in kde Thanks for this info. Been difficult to learn all this, but now it is coming together it seems 'obvious'. Your problem must be something else. In your malfunctioning .kde, what do you have in the directory share/services? I had a look. I have: nsplugin.desktop I know nothing about this, and almost did some damage because when I hovered the mouse pointer over it, a tag came up saying that it was a configuration file. Since most(?) configuration files are text files under Linux I tried to open it - but luckily for me I got a warning!!! Or alternatively, do you happen to have a file called index.html in the directory you tried browsing to? No, no index.
I'd appreciate any clues as I am getting fed up with all of these 'wonderful options' which involve spending years of study (nothing better to do) to control. If the world goes over to Linux then every technical student at the universities will have to study Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Biology and Linux.
Why not? They have to study windows now. Yes that is true. But the study of Windows is rather superficial, don't you think? Computers that are used for more than toys are necessarily complex and require learning. Please don't say windows doesn't, because it is a blatant lie. More money is spent on windows classes than some countries spend on electricity I am serious about this move to Linux, but there is an awful lot to learn. And it is true that when I 'get there' I will know a lot more about systems
Thanks Anders, I accept the kick in the proverbial :-) Just desperation as I am about to go to London and bought this new AMD64 laptop which has cost me hours of effort. Read on ... On Sunday 03 July 2005 13:07, Anders Johansson wrote: than I would ever have learnt under M$ (where everything is hidden and even more bloody frustrating). Great match currently going on between Federer and Roddick. Hard to choose sides. Regards, Colin
Solved. But by accident only, so, although not desperate, I am still asking the questions below. Comments welcome, especially from SuSE listeners. The serious issue is why is it so easy to stuff up, and where is the 'How to' on file associations. Read on... Soln: remove file associations from inode/directories and change to 'embedded'. Colin On Sunday 03 July 2005 13:01, Colin Carter wrote:
As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ?
Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file."
It is under inode. Obvious of course, but what is the obvious way of find out what the original setting was? I rename .kde and restart to see what is in the new, working version - you guessed it: nothing, blank, nil, NUL, zilch, ... Removing the entry does not fix the problem (but of course).
Does anybody know if SuSE have documented "File Associations" anywhere, and if they have documented a "Normal state"?
I'd appreciate any clues as I am getting fed up with all of these 'wonderful options' which involve spending years of study (nothing better to do) to control. If the world goes over to Linux then every technical student at the universities will have to study Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Biology and Linux.
Sorry to gripe, but I left M$ for this, and I have spent more time messing with Linux than coding.
I would have thought that it was in SuSE's best interest to become involved with end user problems like this.
Please be patient with me. Regards, Colin
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:01 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ?
Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file."
And somehow this is the fault of SuSE? If you are going to blindly make changes without documenting the changes you can expect to have problems. Document the old setting -before- making the change so you have a reference for how to change back. If that is not possible then create a new user that will have default settings to use as a reference point for when you "accidentally" change something and break it. Also -any- OS has it's learning curve, whether it is the OS you start with or switch to. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:01 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ?
Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file."
And somehow this is the fault of SuSE?
If you are going to blindly make changes without documenting the changes you can expect to have problems. Document the old setting -before- making the change so you have a reference for how to change back. If that is not possible then create a new user that will have default settings to use as a reference point for when you "accidentally" change something and break it.
Also -any- OS has it's learning curve, whether it is the OS you start with or switch to.
There is also another angle, if you discover a problem with an application, you can quite often alert the maintainers, ask for features, etc.. Changes to HOWTOs can also be submitted. With Opensource in general and as we discover on this list, solutions submitted by one person benefits everyone. Recently I asked a question here and promptly found the answer myself which I also posted, then with glabels I was in the general area and Anders gave me the little push that solved my problem. If we take the attitude, "I bought this shiny new box of CD's/DVD's from (Micro)SuSE and it should do everything I want to do and in a way I'm accustomed to", we're applying baseball rules to cricket, a futile exercise that only leads to frustration of the sort that has caused so many of us to abandon the OS and products by Micro something, I forget their name, it's been so long. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:01 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
As if I am browsing my hard disk with Konqueror and I select the 'UP' arrow button in the top left corner I just might want to open the superior directory with GIMP, or maybe with a media player ??? WHY is this configurable under "File Associations" ?
Yep, I've done it again: Somehow I have accidently 'file associated' a directory with Konqueror and guess what: "Konqueror cannot handle this type of file."
And somehow this is the fault of SuSE? Weeeell, kind of. It seems to be so easy to accidently change these associations. But the big issue for me is documentation about managing file associations. Any idea where it is? Then I might be able to repair my fumbles. I also have a problem with knowing the default associations. For example, when I, a newbie, use Konqueror to view a directory and select an html file
Hi Ken, Thanks for your response. On Sunday 03 July 2005 21:36, Ken Schneider wrote: the file it displayed inside the Konqueror so I have no idea what module is actually doing the work. Until this bumble I had no idea that there was a module called KHTML, let alone know that it was ment to be associated 'inside' Konqueror. Anyway, do you have any ideas about the documentation?
If you are going to blindly make changes without documenting the changes you can expect to have problems. Document the old setting -before- making the change so you have a reference for how to change back. If that is not possible then create a new user that will have default settings to use as a reference point for when you "accidentally" change something and break it. Nuh, I had absolutely zero intention to make such changes, and was in fact rather upset that I somehow messed it up, so I have no idea what I did. Also -any- OS has it's learning curve, whether it is the OS you start with or switch to. True! Kick in the pants accepted.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Regards, Colin
Hey man, just try this: rm -rf .kde Try to log in again after that, it should create the directory how i was when you reinstalled. I somehow managed to screw up KDE where X wouldn't load at all. If I logged in, X restarted and wouldn't log in yet I could log in with root, I just removed it and a few other dirs, and then rebooted, and BOOM, everything was fine
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:43 -0400, Allen wrote:
Hey man, just try this:
rm -rf .kde
Better yet just mv .kde .kde-org just in case you need something from there. kmail stores it's email there now so you would end up losing all of your email. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:35:17PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:43 -0400, Allen wrote:
Hey man, just try this:
rm -rf .kde
Better yet just mv .kde .kde-org just in case you need something from there. kmail stores it's email there now so you would end up losing all of your email.
I use mutt ;)
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
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On Monday 04 July 2005 05:35, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:43 -0400, Allen wrote:
Hey man, just try this:
rm -rf .kde
Better yet just mv .kde .kde-org just in case you need something from there. kmail stores it's email there now so you would end up losing all of your email. Yes Ken, you are right. I have had problems with my email and had to 'go back'. Regards, Colin -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Monday 04 July 2005 03:43, Allen wrote:
Hey man, just try this:
rm -rf .kde
Try to log in again after that, it should create the directory how i was when you reinstalled. I somehow managed to screw up KDE where X wouldn't load at all.
If I logged in, X restarted and wouldn't log in yet I could log in with root, I just removed it and a few other dirs, and then rebooted, and BOOM, everything was fine Thanks for the tip. I managed to resolve my problem (Trial and error :-) But I did make a paper note in my little hint book. Regards, Colin
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