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It appears to me that someone is attacking the the SuSe list and attempting to charge some kind of merchandise to my charge cards, or something. I don't understand what is going on here, but I don't believe I ordered anything from SuSE at the end of December. AAMOF, I am ordering a distro from the Magician, having given up on SuSe.
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:27:54 -0500, Doug McGarrett
It appears to me that someone is attacking the the SuSe list and attempting to charge some kind of merchandise to my charge cards, or something. I don't understand what is going on here, but I don't believe I ordered anything from SuSE at the end of December. AAMOF, I am ordering a distro from the Magician, having given up on SuSe.
/ snipped excess verbage / How would anyone one on this list know what to do about your credit cards and whether or not a someone got the number and decided to charge something to it? This is a help list for software not the online store for SUSE. -- "There is no need to teach that stars can fall out of the sky and land on a flat Earth in order to defend religious faith."
The Tuesday 2005-01-11 at 01:27 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
It appears to me that someone is attacking the the SuSe list and attempting to charge some kind of merchandise to my charge cards, or something. I don't understand what is going on here, but I don't believe I ordered anything from SuSE at the end of December. AAMOF, I am ordering a distro from the Magician, having given up on SuSe.
What proof do you have of that? Because what you add below doesn't prove your point...
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After spending a couple of hours trying to make my new printer play with lpd, I've plunged into the world of cups. The first question seems to be: how to add support for this printer. I
Did you, perchance, receive an email from your bank, or from ebay, asking for your password? Or did they ask you to confirm your data? Did you answer it? If you did, you are getting what you your self let you into. It is a known scam... No serious bussiness asks for your password on an email form. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:03:27AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2005-01-11 at 01:27 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
It appears to me that someone is attacking the the SuSe list and attempting to charge some kind of merchandise to my charge cards, or something. I don't understand what is going on here, but I don't believe I ordered anything from SuSE at the end of December. AAMOF, I am ordering a distro from the Magician, having given up on SuSe.
How so exactly?
What proof do you have of that? Because what you add below doesn't prove your point...
Original-recipient: rfc822;dmcgarrett@optonline.net
After spending a couple of hours trying to make my new printer play with lpd, I've plunged into the world of cups. The first question seems to be: how to add support for this printer. I
Did you, perchance, receive an email from your bank, or from ebay, asking for your password? Or did they ask you to confirm your data? Did you answer it? If you did, you are getting what you your self let you into. It is a known scam...
If you're stupid enough to send your details out over an Email, then well, you're stupid enough to just hand the stuff you have over anyway. Me being a Social Engineer, I can tell you that just from reading your email and the way you.... It's hard to explain but any con artist or Social Engineer knows what I mean, when you type, talk, and write, there is naked personality inside it, and some people can pick that up. I can. And you seem pretty easy to fool from your mail. and the fact you gave up on SUSE for Mandrake over something stupid adds to this, thinking psychologically, it would appear you fit into a stereotype of people who don't like anything that at first is hard to use, and from there, I can go on and on and build a profile of you in my head and use it to my advantage. Not that I will, you haven't ever offered me the right price to try it on you. I won't scam for reasons of my own personal gain unless hired to do so by a company / person who wants to be tested or a boss may hire me to etst employees. In other words: sorry my powers can only be used for good.
No serious bussiness asks for your password on an email form.
They try though! ;) I've seen so many people get just nabbed by scams. I am very good at it but my hopes are to make stupidity lowered, not take mnoey. I've scammed money from people before, and gave it back.
The Tuesday 2005-01-11 at 19:23 -0500, Allen wrote:
If you're stupid enough to send your details out over an Email, then well, you're stupid enough to just hand the stuff you have over anyway. Me being a Social Engineer, I can tell you that just from reading your email and the
I hope you refer to the OP, not me ;-)
No serious bussiness asks for your password on an email form.
They try though! ;) I've seen so many people get just nabbed by scams. I am very good at it but my hopes are to make stupidity lowered, not take mnoey. I've scammed money from people before, and gave it back.
¿Do they? I mean, does a serious bussiness send out an email to a client requesting him to enter the password "on an emailed form"? What a security risk! That would define them as "non serious bussiness" inmediately, in my book. If some body sends such a notice, it is most probably faked. I read a quick test for these yesterday: enter a false password. If it acepted, then it is obvious a scam. If it rejected, there is a chance it is genuine, albeit stupid. And of course, looking at the html code of the link, or properties, it can be seen that the name displayed doesn't match what the link points to, but a cleverly engineered clone of the genuine web page of, say, ebay. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:08:02AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2005-01-11 at 19:23 -0500, Allen wrote:
If you're stupid enough to send your details out over an Email, then well, you're stupid enough to just hand the stuff you have over anyway. Me being a Social Engineer, I can tell you that just from reading your email and the
I hope you refer to the OP, not me ;-)
OP, not you.
No serious bussiness asks for your password on an email form.
They try though! ;) I've seen so many people get just nabbed by scams. I am very good at it but my hopes are to make stupidity lowered, not take mnoey. I've scammed money from people before, and gave it back.
¿Do they? I mean, does a serious bussiness send out an email to a client requesting him to enter the password "on an emailed form"? What a security risk! That would define them as "non serious bussiness" inmediately, in my book.
If some body sends such a notice, it is most probably faked.
I read a quick test for these yesterday: enter a false password. If it acepted, then it is obvious a scam. If it rejected, there is a chance it is genuine, albeit stupid.
And of course, looking at the html code of the link, or properties, it can be seen that the name displayed doesn't match what the link points to, but a cleverly engineered clone of the genuine web page of, say, ebay.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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On Tuesday 11 January 2005 01:27, Doug McGarrett wrote:
charge cards, or something. I don't understand what is going on here, but I don't believe I ordered anything from SuSE at the end of December. AAMOF, I am ordering a distro
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Well I don't see anything about credit cards in this message other than your post. But you could start at the top with: 167.206.5.113 and see if it matches mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net then continue to step backwards until you find a "fake" mail server. The last legitimate one might be the open mail server the faked message was routed through. Cheers, -- Charles McColm, charm@porchlight.ca http://tuxspot.blogspot.com/
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Allen
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Carlos E. R.
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Doug McGarrett