On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 17/01/13 01:45, Mark Misulich wrote:

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Hi, I produce a monthly newsletter using Microsoft Word 2000 in WinXP. I then convert it to a pdf file for distribution to the recipients.

When I try to open the .doc file in LibreOffice in Linux, it gets everything all jumbled up. I am using opensuse 12.2 with KDE Platform Version 4.9.5 "release 3", and LibreOffice 4.0.0.1. I have tried this in LO 3.6 as well, and it also opens incorrectly in that version.

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Downloaded the pdf (cgi) file and I can view it perfectly using LO 4.0 (as well as using Okular of course).

BC

Hi Basil, are you able to view the .doc file without problems as well? There was a previous post that reported that he could view the .doc file without problems in LO. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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I produce a monthly newsletter using Microsoft Word 2000 in WinXP. I then convert it to a pdf file for distribution to the recipients.

When I try to open the .doc file in LibreOffice in Linux, it gets everything all jumbled up. I am using opensuse 12.2 with KDE Platform Version 4.9.5 "release 3", and LibreOffice 4.0.0.1. I have tried this in LO 3.6 as well, and it also opens incorrectly in that version. [pruned]

Downloaded the pdf (cgi) file and I can view it perfectly using LO 4.0 (as well as using Okular of course).

BC

Hi Basil, are you able to view the .doc file without problems as well? There was a previous post that reported that he could view the .doc file without problems in LO.

Mark

OK, now I got the .doc file and, yes, absolutely no problems with viewing it in LO (I am using 4.0.0.1RC1) as you can see here:

http://susepaste.org/24071268

BC

Hi Basil, the pages that you have saved in the susepage images referenced above don't show the pages that were giving particular problems. The pages that you should have looked at were the cover page and the next page. Maybe you could have a look again and see if they give you some problems. Specifically, the problem I am seeing is the second page photo moves to the first (cover) page, and covers up all but a small band of the first page picture. I am using this laptop that I carry with me when I travel, and when I open up the .doc file that I downloaded from the bug website, I have the same problems as when I am on my desktop computer at home. In fact, it is a little worse. When I try to scroll down the page, a one-half inch band of the second page picture repeats over and over again. I am using LO Version 3.6:build-303 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:303)) on this computer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 19/01/13 13:58, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 19/01/13 13:33, Mark Misulich wrote:

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I produce a monthly newsletter using Microsoft Word 2000 in WinXP. I then convert it to a pdf file for distribution to the recipients.

When I try to open the .doc file in LibreOffice in Linux, it gets everything all jumbled up. I am using opensuse 12.2 with KDE Platform Version 4.9.5 "release 3", and LibreOffice 4.0.0.1. I have tried this in LO 3.6 as well, and it also opens incorrectly in that version. [pruned]

Downloaded the pdf (cgi) file and I can view it perfectly using LO 4.0 (as well as using Okular of course).

BC

Hi Basil, are you able to view the .doc file without problems as well? There was a previous post that reported that he could view the .doc file without problems in LO.

Mark OK, now I got the .doc file and, yes, absolutely no problems with viewing it in LO (I am using 4.0.0.1RC1) as you can see here:

http://susepaste.org/24071268

BC Hi Basil, the pages that you have saved in the susepage images referenced above don't show the pages that were giving particular problems. The pages that you should have looked at were the cover page and the next page.

Have your pick:

http://susepaste.org/3217267

http://susepaste.org/22976505

http://susepaste.org/70797183

BC

Hey, I just noticed something! Why are using Comic MS font for your newsletter? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.2-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 21/01/13 11:07, Mark Misulich wrote:

On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 13:58 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 19/01/13 13:33, Mark Misulich wrote:

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> I produce a monthly newsletter using Microsoft Word 2000 in WinXP. I > then convert it to a pdf file for distribution to the recipients. > > When I try to open the .doc file in LibreOffice in Linux, it gets > everything all jumbled up. I am using opensuse 12.2 with KDE Platform > Version 4.9.5 "release 3", and LibreOffice 4.0.0.1. I have tried this > in LO 3.6 as well, and it also opens incorrectly in that version. [pruned]

Downloaded the pdf (cgi) file and I can view it perfectly using LO 4.0 (as well as using Okular of course).

BC

Hi Basil, are you able to view the .doc file without problems as well? There was a previous post that reported that he could view the .doc file without problems in LO.

Mark OK, now I got the .doc file and, yes, absolutely no problems with viewing it in LO (I am using 4.0.0.1RC1) as you can see here:

http://susepaste.org/24071268

BC Hi Basil, the pages that you have saved in the susepage images referenced above don't show the pages that were giving particular problems. The pages that you should have looked at were the cover page and the next page. Have your pick:

http://susepaste.org/3217267

http://susepaste.org/22976505

http://susepaste.org/70797183

Hi, sorry for the delayed reply. I am busy at work and haven't had much time to deal with this.

Is OK, you mentioned before that you were travelling.

In the meantime, this thread has taken on a life of its own. I am going to focus on the original issues again.

[pruned] Turn on the NonPrintable Characters (CTRL+F10) which may give you a clue as to what is going wrong. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 22/01/13 02:43, Mark Misulich wrote:

On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 21:46 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Turn on the NonPrintable Characters (CTRL+F10) which may give you a clue as to what is going wrong.

BC I didn't see anything of note.

Mark

I thought that you would have noticed the reason why the date of the publication on the first page was out of alignment. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 22/01/13 12:13, Mark Misulich wrote:

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Turn on the NonPrintable Characters (CTRL+F10) which may give you a clue as to what is going wrong.

BC I didn't see anything of note.

Mark I thought that you would have noticed the reason why the date of the publication on the first page was out of alignment.

BC I could move it into the correct position, but I don't know why it is out of alignment in LO.

Good, you saw that. Now, is this the same in Word? The other thing, did you notice the different carriage return symbols being used in different parts of the document? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/19/2013 04:45 AM, Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:45:55 -0500 Mark Misulich wrote:

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Hi, I produce a monthly newsletter using Microsoft Word 2000 in WinXP. I then convert it to a pdf file for distribution to the recipients.

When I try to open the .doc file in LibreOffice in Linux, it gets everything all jumbled up. I am using opensuse 12.2 with KDE Platform Version 4.9.5 "release 3", and LibreOffice 4.0.0.1. I have tried this in LO 3.6 as well, and it also opens incorrectly in that version. LO 3.6 does show the cover more or less correct. I also did a test under Windows 7 using Office 2010 and LO 3.5.7.2

The window version of LO have the same problem as the Opensuse version.

URL:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9684413/office_vs_libreoffice-1.png Shows the cover (left Office 2010, right LO)

URL:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9684413/office_vs_libreoffice-2.png> Shows the second page (left Office 2010, right LO)

The other pages seems at first glance correct.

On my Opensuse setup LO 4 makes a complete mess of the cover. When I load the doc into LO 4 almost everytime the text on the cover is not vissible (sits behind the picture). After scroll down/up the text becomes visible but sometimes incomplete. See: URL:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9684413/screenshot_1-lo4.png URL:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9684413/screenshot_4-lo.png

HTH, Martin Coming into this late...............but have you tried "OpenOffice"...

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On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:22 +1100, William Schifano wrote:

Hi,

Microsoft Office .doc file is not really the standard. Try saving the file in html & ODF(Open Document File). LibreOffice Internet Standard should be able to resolve your file problems.

LibreOffice has a /lot/ of issues rendering certain documents where as Apache's OpenOffice does not have any problems with them. Try telling a government dept or large corporation to use ODF format, they'll quickly tell you to it isn't there problem, and rightly so. Does default Winbloze 7/8 Doc readers or Office 2007+ handle ODF's? I know XP can't by default, and office 2003 can't by default if at all, and despite being dated, they are both very very heavily used in business and governments still.

On 01/20/2013 01:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 20/01/13 17:16, Noel Butler wrote:

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On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:22 +1100, William Schifano wrote:

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Hi,

Microsoft Office .doc file is not really the standard. Try saving the file in html & ODF(Open Document File). LibreOffice Internet Standard should be able to resolve your file problems.

LibreOffice has a /lot/ of issues rendering certain documents where as Apache's OpenOffice does not have any problems with them.

Try telling a government dept or large corporation to use ODF format, they'll quickly tell you to it isn't there problem, and rightly so.

Does default Winbloze 7/8 Doc readers or Office 2007+ handle ODF's? I know XP can't by default, and office 2003 can't by default if at all, and despite being dated, they are both very very heavily used in business and governments still.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but even MS Office versions cannot read documents produced by versions of MS Office :-D .

But what I am really waiting for is for Mark to come back to me about the screengrabs I posted in an earlier post and for him - or for others who also claim that his doc file is corrupted when viewed in LibreOffice - that what I posted does in fact show corruptions of his *.doc file because I see no corruption (maybe it's because I just got new spectacles? :-) ).

Also I would like to know why he is using for his newsletter the font Comic Sans MS which is what my copy of LIbreOffice 4.0.0.1RC1 is showing me.

What font do other people using LO see when they try to view his *.doc file - I'm curious, so indulge me please :-) .

BC

I have been finding that OpenOffice is a bit ahead of Libre in some respects. You'll probably have to go find it on the web and download it--most distros don't have it anymore--but it will live peacefully side-by-side with LO, so you can try the one when the other doesn't work. (I can't say that this will solve your problem, only that it's worth a try.) --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 20/01/13 18:19, Doug wrote:

On 01/20/2013 01:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 20/01/13 17:16, Noel Butler wrote:

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On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:22 +1100, William Schifano wrote:

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Hi,

Microsoft Office .doc file is not really the standard. Try saving the file in html & ODF(Open Document File). LibreOffice Internet Standard should be able to resolve your file problems.

LibreOffice has a /lot/ of issues rendering certain documents where as Apache's OpenOffice does not have any problems with them.

Try telling a government dept or large corporation to use ODF format, they'll quickly tell you to it isn't there problem, and rightly so.

Does default Winbloze 7/8 Doc readers or Office 2007+ handle ODF's? I know XP can't by default, and office 2003 can't by default if at all, and despite being dated, they are both very very heavily used in business and governments still.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but even MS Office versions cannot read documents produced by versions of MS Office :-D .

But what I am really waiting for is for Mark to come back to me about the screengrabs I posted in an earlier post and for him - or for others who also claim that his doc file is corrupted when viewed in LibreOffice - that what I posted does in fact show corruptions of his *.doc file because I see no corruption (maybe it's because I just got new spectacles? :-) ).

Also I would like to know why he is using for his newsletter the font Comic Sans MS which is what my copy of LIbreOffice 4.0.0.1RC1 is showing me.

What font do other people using LO see when they try to view his *.doc file - I'm curious, so indulge me please :-) .

BC

I have been finding that OpenOffice is a bit ahead of Libre in some respects. You'll probably have to go find it on the web and download it--most distros don't have it anymore--but it will live peacefully side-by-side with LO, so you can try the one when the other doesn't work. (I can't say that this will solve your problem, only that it's worth a try.)

Ummmm..... I am not the one having problems :-) . I am more than happy with LO as it is behaving exactly as I want it to behave. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/20/2013 04:54 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 20/01/13 18:19, Doug wrote:

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On 01/20/2013 01:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 20/01/13 17:16, Noel Butler wrote:

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On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:22 +1100, William Schifano wrote:

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Hi,

Microsoft Office .doc file is not really the standard. Try saving the file in html & ODF(Open Document File). LibreOffice Internet Standard should be able to resolve your file problems.

LibreOffice has a /lot/ of issues rendering certain documents where as Apache's OpenOffice does not have any problems with them.

Try telling a government dept or large corporation to use ODF format, they'll quickly tell you to it isn't there problem, and rightly so.

Does default Winbloze 7/8 Doc readers or Office 2007+ handle ODF's? I know XP can't by default, and office 2003 can't by default if at all, and despite being dated, they are both very very heavily used in business and governments still.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but even MS Office versions cannot read documents produced by versions of MS Office :-D .

But what I am really waiting for is for Mark to come back to me about the screengrabs I posted in an earlier post and for him - or for others who also claim that his doc file is corrupted when viewed in LibreOffice - that what I posted does in fact show corruptions of his *.doc file because I see no corruption (maybe it's because I just got new spectacles? :-) ).

Also I would like to know why he is using for his newsletter the font Comic Sans MS which is what my copy of LIbreOffice 4.0.0.1RC1 is showing me.

What font do other people using LO see when they try to view his *.doc file - I'm curious, so indulge me please :-) .

BC

I have been finding that OpenOffice is a bit ahead of Libre in some respects. You'll probably have to go find it on the web and download it--most distros don't have it anymore--but it will live peacefully side-by-side with LO, so you can try the one when the other doesn't work. (I can't say that this will solve your problem, only that it's worth a try.)

Ummmm..... I am not the one having problems :-) . I am more than happy with LO as it is behaving exactly as I want it to behave.

BC

Have you tried it with, like Avery labels, started them in OpenOffice (printed just fine) then came LibreOffice and screwed them up - with no changes to my saved file - went back to OpenOffice and all is fine now. FYI: Abandoning LO and using OO, at least, until - it - goes away. Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler@att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 13 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin said the following on 01/20/2013 01:38 AM:

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but even MS Office versions cannot read documents produced by versions of MS Office :-D .

I've also read that different -- later -- versions of MS-Word rendered documents produced by earlier versions differently. In particular, I heard that newsletters and government documents which were tightly fitted to a page overflowed. Yes, I'd be irked if my carefully crafted one page resume overflowed by just a line or two onto another page. I can imagine such a split upsetting contact information or the lines that overflowed containing important keywords and the HR-droid not thinking to turn the page over. This is why I use common place fonts or ship as PDFs with the fonts embedded. However if you have no concern about the ultimate appearance, that you take a "its the data that counts" attitude, then just ship a .txt file. -- When all government ...in little as in great things... shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power; it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1821 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/20/2013 08:16 AM, Noel Butler wrote:
> Microsoft Office .doc file is not really the standard.
> >Try saving the file in html & ODF(Open Document File).
> >LibreOffice Internet Standard should be able to resolve your file problems.
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  - would mention that Abiword often does a good job

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On 01/20/2013 05:48 AM, Noel Butler pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 12:38 +0200, ellanios82 wrote:
>> On 01/20/2013 08:16 AM, Noel Butler wrote:
>>> Microsoft Office .doc file is not really the standard.
>>>> Try saving the file in html & ODF(Open Document File).
>>>> LibreOffice Internet Standard should be able to resolve your file problems.
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>>    - would mention that Abiword often does a good job
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> for text docs it sure does, but it also lacks a bit for other OD formats
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