[opensuse] smart documentation rewrite
I did the documentation for smart about 2 years ago. While it has helped many, it is severely lacking. So now I am rewriting it. I have decided, at least for now, to make it a book. Get the text right, the formatting, and so on. Here is where you come in. I need people to review it to make sure it's easy to read, technically accurate and so on. I am striving to reach a couple groups of people. 1) The newbie. Whether new to smart, or new to Linux. 2) The developer and packager. I update the book often, I just don't rename, or append the file with version numbers. I suppose I could. Here is where you can find the book http://downloads.thecompletecomputerresource.com/smart/smartbook.odm It is my goal to make this as good as it can be, and the more feedback I get, the better I can make this. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:30 PM, linux_learner
I did the documentation for smart about 2 years ago. While it has helped many, it is severely lacking. So now I am rewriting it. I have decided, at least for now, to make it a book. Get the text right, the formatting, and so on.
Here is where you come in. I need people to review it to make sure it's easy to read, technically accurate and so on. I am striving to reach a couple groups of people. 1) The newbie. Whether new to smart, or new to Linux. 2) The developer and packager.
I update the book often, I just don't rename, or append the file with version numbers. I suppose I could. Here is where you can find the book http://downloads.thecompletecomputerresource.com/smart/smartbook.odm
It is my goal to make this as good as it can be, and the more feedback I get, the better I can make this.
Hi, thanks for heads up. One suggestion as a start - why don't you setup a wiki for the book? It's much more easier to collaborate, i.e. if I find some mistakes (I did, not critical ones), it's easier for me to just fixc them in the wiki. Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
linux_learner escribió:
It is my goal to make this as good as it can be, and the more feedback I get, the better I can make this.
Will be nice if you can create a similar document for zypper and contribute your time to the cause ;) .. smart is a third party solution and is broken enough to avoid reccommending it at all. -- “If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.” – Edsger Dijkstra Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Cristian Rodríguez
Will be nice if you can create a similar document for zypper and contribute your time to the cause ;) .. smart is a third party solution and is broken enough to avoid reccommending it at all.
Cristian, would you be so kind to show some examples of how "smart is broken enough"? And how zypper is better? Yes, I see zypper improving over the time, but still smart works better for me on all my opensuse machines (excluding the one-click install, which I do not use anyway). -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�ﮞ˛���m�)z{.��+�Z+i�b�*'jW(�f�vǦj)h���Ǿ��i�������
Sunny wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Cristian Rodríguez
wrote: Will be nice if you can create a similar document for zypper and contribute your time to the cause ;) .. smart is a third party solution and is broken enough to avoid reccommending it at all.
Cristian, would you be so kind to show some examples of how "smart is broken enough"? And how zypper is better?
This is a 10.1 system...which has not been updated once since 10.1 was installed (in September 2006 in a tent out in the middle of the Iraqi desert) ...because I can't. I should have 10.3 on this system in a couple of days -- then I'll be happy.
Yes, I see zypper improving over the time, but still smart works better for me on all my opensuse machines (excluding the one-click install, which I do not use anyway).
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On Wednesday 02 April 2008 05:43:50 pm Sam Clemens wrote:
Sunny wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Cristian Rodríguez
wrote: Will be nice if you can create a similar document for zypper and contribute your time to the cause ;) .. smart is a third party solution and is broken enough to avoid reccommending it at all.
Cristian, would you be so kind to show some examples of how "smart is broken enough"? And how zypper is better?
This is a 10.1 system...which has not been updated once since 10.1 was installed (in September 2006 in a tent out in the middle of the Iraqi desert) ...because I can't.
I should have 10.3 on this system in a couple of days -- then I'll be happy.
yes, zypper/yast (whatever it is called) seems to be fixed more or less enough on 10.3 to abandon smart for the most part. It still isn't as quick in searching packages and doesn't update without a few tweaks (removing the auto-update when opening YaST and incorporating a cron job to update when you're not trying to do something else) but it works. In fact, this laptop doesn't even have smart.
Yes, I see zypper improving over the time, but still smart works better for me on all my opensuse machines (excluding the one-click install, which I do not use anyway).
that is a cool trick. I wish it were more prevelant and smoother. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Kai Ponte
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linux_learner
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Sam Clemens
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Sunny