[opensuse] Keeping the monitor turned on
Hi - This may be more appropriate to the KDE group but seems like this is a better place to ask as this may be a system level issue... Running SuSE11.2 with KDE 4.4.2 I want the ability to leave my monitor up with the display turned on indefinitely, for my media center, especially when I am playing music and running a visualization program. I have tried to go into the KDE System Settings and turned off all the power management schemes, PowerDevil etc. This is a desktop system so battery mode is not an option. Yet something is insisting on turning off the monitor after a few minutes of "inactivity" I have look elsewhere (Sax, nvidia manager etc) and cannot find anything else which might be also trying to configure a timeout on the display.. So how do I keep the display up and running? Thanks for any and all ideas offered! Marc..
On 3/31/2010 1:56 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi - This may be more appropriate to the KDE group but seems like this is a better place to ask as this may be a system level issue... Running SuSE11.2 with KDE 4.4.2
I want the ability to leave my monitor up with the display turned on indefinitely, for my media center, especially when I am playing music and running a visualization program. I have tried to go into the KDE System Settings and turned off all the power management schemes, PowerDevil etc. This is a desktop system so battery mode is not an option. Yet something is insisting on turning off the monitor after a few minutes of "inactivity"
I have look elsewhere (Sax, nvidia manager etc) and cannot find anything else which might be also trying to configure a timeout on the display.. So how do I keep the display up and running? Thanks for any and all ideas offered!
Marc..
Are you sure that the _monitor_ itself is not the time-out device? --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/31/2010 1:56 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi - This may be more appropriate to the KDE group but seems like this is a better place to ask as this may be a system level issue... Running SuSE11.2 with KDE 4.4.2
I want the ability to leave my monitor up with the display turned on indefinitely, for my media center, especially when I am playing music and running a visualization program. I have tried to go into the KDE System Settings and turned off all the power management schemes, PowerDevil etc. This is a desktop system so battery mode is not an option. Yet something is insisting on turning off the monitor after a few minutes of "inactivity"
I have look elsewhere (Sax, nvidia manager etc) and cannot find anything else which might be also trying to configure a timeout on the display.. So how do I keep the display up and running? Thanks for any and all ideas offered!
Marc..
Are you sure that the _monitor_ itself is not the time-out device? --doug No it cannot be the monitor itself. I can switch inputs to it so that
On 3/31/2010 11:09 AM, Doug wrote: the TV signal from my satellite set top box is feeding directly to the monitor and it will never shut off the display. Also there is nothing in the monitor setup menus that imply that there could be some sort of timer. Marc.. -- Marc Chamberlin www.marcchamberlin.com A man said unto the universe - "Sir I Exist!" "However" replied the universe "I do not see where that creates in me a sense of an obligation" S Crane.
Subject: [opensuse] Keeping the monitor turned on I want the ability to leave my monitor up with the display turned on indefinitely, for my media center, especially when I am playing music and running a visualization program. I have tried to go into the KDE System Settings and turned off all the power management schemes, PowerDevil etc. This is a desktop system so battery mode is not an option. Yet something is insisting on turning off the monitor after a few minutes of "inactivity" ~~~~~~~~
From a terminal run;
xset s off and...; xset -dpms That should give you the results you need. Best, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 03/31/2010 12:56 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi - This may be more appropriate to the KDE group but seems like this is a better place to ask as this may be a system level issue... Running SuSE11.2 with KDE 4.4.2
I want the ability to leave my monitor up with the display turned on indefinitely, for my media center, especially when I am playing music and running a visualization program. I have tried to go into the KDE System Settings and turned off all the power management schemes, PowerDevil etc. This is a desktop system so battery mode is not an option. Yet something is insisting on turning off the monitor after a few minutes of "inactivity"
I have look elsewhere (Sax, nvidia manager etc) and cannot find anything else which might be also trying to configure a timeout on the display.. So how do I keep the display up and running? Thanks for any and all ideas offered!
Marc..
Marc, If there is any consolation, I have the exact opposite problem with (KDE 4.4.2) "release 231". I went to bet last night assuming that the screensaver or power-control would turn off my monitor. When I got up however, the screen was still shining brightly -- no screensaver -- no powerdown. Hopefully solving your problem will help solve mine too. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 13:18 -0700, James D. Parra wrote:
xset s on
and;
xset +dpms
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuzsE4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XqYACggNvc/Zyy/3hJ9CA6HPVaVrs6 MxMAnjLlmQArUYItWq7k7CPa/pcGEjob =bhan -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 22:27 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuzteQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VnOgCcCIZjerDVMALBZwnBaQuG2gI5 5aUAnR/zqI3vsco4se3SfnnT+OYMh0Up =XnSt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~ Thanks Carlos. I did not know that. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 03/31/2010 03:55 PM, James D. Parra wrote:
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~
Thanks Carlos. I did not know that.
James
Thanks to both you guys because -- I didn't know 'any' of that :p (sorry James -- you get two copies...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 16:28 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:55 PM, James D. Parra wrote:
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~
Thanks Carlos. I did not know that.
James
Thanks to both you guys because -- I didn't know 'any' of that :p
:-) I'm sure that I will forget this when I need it next time O:-) However, I'm thinking that when the screensaver triggers (it if exists) it can change the settings and invalidate them. I say that because I enabled dpms, then when away for some time. When I came back the screen was black, but not off. In my case, it will be these settings: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 0 Suspend: 0 Off: 0 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On Now I fire up 'xscreensaver' (for some reason the gnome screen saver does not trigger in this install), and the settings are different: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 900 Suspend: 960 Off: 1800 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuzwdgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XTIwCggyxq9LejEBOjLFKkMfU/Hy8J uFEAoJBkXvne8TlKSOJn3gksA7NaKKDQ =ShoD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/31/2010 2:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 16:28 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:55 PM, James D. Parra wrote:
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~
Thanks Carlos. I did not know that.
James
Thanks to both you guys because -- I didn't know 'any' of that :p
:-)
I'm sure that I will forget this when I need it next time O:-)
It seems to me the obvious question here is why are these settings not exposed in the Control panel as they were in prior versions? After all, these things are not that uncommonly needed. Keosk mode would need them as well as any video playback. -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 03 April 2010 00:31:31 John Andersen wrote:
On 3/31/2010 2:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 16:28 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:55 PM, James D. Parra wrote:
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~
Thanks Carlos. I did not know that.
James
Thanks to both you guys because -- I didn't know 'any' of that :p
:-)
I'm sure that I will forget this when I need it next time O:-)
It seems to me the obvious question here is why are these settings not exposed in the Control panel as they were in prior versions?
They are there but probably hard to find. Look in the Power Management module under the specific profiles - you can enable DPMS and set the timeouts for the various modes. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/6/2010 3:03 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Saturday 03 April 2010 00:31:31 John Andersen wrote:
On 3/31/2010 2:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 16:28 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:55 PM, James D. Parra wrote:
Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~
Thanks Carlos. I did not know that.
James
Thanks to both you guys because -- I didn't know 'any' of that :p
:-)
I'm sure that I will forget this when I need it next time O:-)
It seems to me the obvious question here is why are these settings not exposed in the Control panel as they were in prior versions?
They are there but probably hard to find. Look in the Power Management module under the specific profiles - you can enable DPMS and set the timeouts for the various modes.
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Will - what cause me to ask and start this thread was the fact that disabling DPMS via the Power Management module did NOT keep the display monitor turned on... At least in KDE 4.4.1.. If that should have, then I would have to say the Power Management module is buggy... Also, as an FYI, I tried to set up a script, to keep my monitor turned on, to get executed automatically via the CPU And System -> "When Loading Profile Execute" and have discovered that the script does not get executed when the system is booted up, or if it does then something else is overriding it later..... Marc..
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 16:50:54 Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 4/6/2010 3:03 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Saturday 03 April 2010 00:31:31 John Andersen wrote:
On 3/31/2010 2:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2010-03-31 at 16:28 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:55 PM, James D. Parra wrote:
> Do you know of a command to read the current setting? I don't see it > mentioned in the man page of xset.
Ah, 'xset q'. ~~~~~~~
Thanks Carlos. I did not know that.
James
Thanks to both you guys because -- I didn't know 'any' of that :p
:-)
I'm sure that I will forget this when I need it next time O:-)
It seems to me the obvious question here is why are these settings not exposed in the Control panel as they were in prior versions?
They are there but probably hard to find. Look in the Power Management module under the specific profiles - you can enable DPMS and set the timeouts for the various modes.
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Will - what cause me to ask and start this thread was the fact that disabling DPMS via the Power Management module did NOT keep the display monitor turned on... At least in KDE 4.4.1.. If that should have, then I would have to say the Power Management module is buggy...
You should have the techniques now to check if a KDE-configured DPMS disable is actually carried out on login, and if it's not, open up a bug at bugs.kde.org vs Powerdevil.
Also, as an FYI, I tried to set up a script, to keep my monitor turned on, to get executed automatically via the CPU And System -> "When Loading Profile Execute" and have discovered that the script does not get executed when the system is booted up
You mean on KDE login, I hope? Which may happen after boot if you have auto- login enabled, but please be clear. KDE power settings don't change what happens on boot - they are session-local. Again, if bug, report.
, or if it does then something else is overriding it later.....
Also possible. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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Doug
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