Sounds reasonable. I don't have time to check it out right now, but it looks about right... Question, though: Do you do this manually? Or did you put it somewhere, where it gets done automatically on login? Jon Clausen On Thursday 29 March 2001 16:00, you wrote:

Jon,

I had the same type of problem with my system I am using a Matrox G450 with 2 monitors.

The soultion I found was to start a second window manager on the second screen. This provides the taskbar and also fixes the windows problem, they now open with the borders and title bar. I beleive that the problem is that the window manager only knows about one screen. I run a simple script like the one below when I login and it starts the second window manager.

#!/bin/csh setenv DISPLAY <your hostname>:0.1 <window manager>

This might not be the correct solution, but it works for me. If anybody knows another solution I would like to try it.

Hope this helps.

Edward

3/29/2001 6:40:02 PM, Jon Clausen wrote:

...

Hi

Excuse the long post, but I have a hard time explaining stuff briefly...:-)

I'm hoping someone can point me to some resource(s) on the inner workings of KDE/XF86 interoperation...

The environment: SuSE 7.1 (2.2.18), XFree 4.0.2, KDE 2.1

The hardware: 1 Matrox 2164W, 1 Matrox 2064W graphics adaptors 1 Hansol 710P (17"), 1 Proview 1564 (15") monitors

Physical setup: screen 0: mga2164W+Hansol rightof screen 1 screen 1: mga2064W+Proview leftof screen 0

I now have these configurations:

Xinerama - which basically works fine, except for the unseen bottom left corner (on the smaller Proview monitor), the tendency of windows to open up on the left screen, and that the KDM login box (plus message boxes generally) open up across the division between the screens. These are minor annoyances that I live with and probably could correct if I could just find *where* these settings are defined.

Traditional - Which behaves rather strange: Screen 0 works pretty much like in a singlehead-setup, but: Screen1 is *wierd*: It seems as if the WM isn't quite aware of this screen, or it doesn't know what to make of it/how to handle it. Desktop background loads fine, panel goes where I specify, but windows opened here lack borders/titlebar, cannot be moved/resized and don't get keyboard input. All the pointy-clicky stuff works though. Virtual desktops are bound to "the same" screen, so I have (at present) 4 virtual desks on screen 0, and 4 (other) desks on screen 1.

I like the traditional setup, mainly because the window-resizing operations function normally. Maximize something, and it does so, within the confines of one screen. In contrast, maximizing windows on the Xinerama setup results in the window sprawling across both screens... (Not so nice)

I would like to achieve the following:

A "traditional" setup, with *both* screens being managed by the WM, with complete functionality.

The virtual desktops should be set up, so that the virtual desk shown on screen 1 = (virtualdesk on screen0)-1

e.g. screen0=desk1 -> screen1=desk4 screen0=desk2 -> screen1=desk1 screen0=desk3 -> screen1=desk2 screen0=desk4 -> screen1=desk3

Up till now I have been using SaX2 to generate the configfiles, and basically it works nicely. I've experienced trouble when importing any multiheaded configfiles, though (SaX2 dies when I say "next"), but generally I am able to set everything up if I supply SaX2 with the information each time I run it.

I suspect X might be broken, but I can't seem to locate the troublespot.

Other than that I can't seem to find any documentation specifically on the 'virtual desktop' phenomenon at all?

Currently I've symlinked /etc/X11/XF86Config -> /etc/X11/XF86Config.dualhed.xinerama.works so that (for testing purposes) I can switch between configurations by changing the symlink instead of renaming the different files all the time. This works fine, it's easy, and I don't *think* it causes any trouble. (Trouble/weirdness was present *before* I adopted this MO.) Generating a new XF86Config just requires I remove the symlink first, and then I don't risk losing my previous config-files ;-)

All feedback welcome!

I'm on the verge of purging my system of all things X and KDE, and starting from scratch... :-/

Sincerely Jon Clausen

BTW since I installed 7.1 and KDE2.1 I now have the option to go directly to console from the GUI-Login-screen... I love it!

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