8.2 is FTPable and there are a ton of updates out today.
My God. I thought I was up to date with updates for 8.2 until today. Not only did SuSE post 8.2 for FTP but they posted a hell of a lot of updated RPM's. Sheesh...601 packages to upgrade on my system. Anyone else seeing this. At least there are lots of YaST2 updates..hopefully one of them fixes installing software off the CD's. :) I just hope the glibc update doesn't break CrossOver AGAIN...which isn't SuSE's fault, but it would still suck. Anyway..for those of you who've been waiting for it to be available via ftp and available to apt for installing pkgs..it's up. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
On Friday 09 May 2003 23:21, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
My God. I thought I was up to date with updates for 8.2 until today. Not only did SuSE post 8.2 for FTP but they posted a hell of a lot of updated RPM's. Sheesh...601 packages to upgrade on my system. Anyone else seeing this. At least there are lots of YaST2 updates..hopefully one of them fixes installing software off the CD's. :)
Nothing new shows up in YOU. Are you sure these aren't the usual bumps in build numbers that occurs when they put up the FTP version? I d/l'd a few, and the none of the changelogs have a newer date than late March.
Anyway..for those of you who've been waiting for it to be available via ftp and available to apt for installing pkgs..it's up.
And this time, it's hitting the mirrors first. Won't be on ftp.suse.com until Monday.
* Scott Jones (scott@exti.net) [030509 23:35]: ->On Friday 09 May 2003 23:21, Ben Rosenberg wrote: -> ->> My God. I thought I was up to date with updates for 8.2 until today. ->> Not only did SuSE post 8.2 for FTP but they posted a hell of a lot of ->> updated RPM's. Sheesh...601 packages to upgrade on my system. Anyone ->> else seeing this. At least there are lots of YaST2 updates..hopefully ->> one of them fixes installing software off the CD's. :) -> ->Nothing new shows up in YOU. Are you sure these aren't the usual bumps ->in build numbers that occurs when they put up the FTP version? I d/l'd ->a few, and the none of the changelogs have a newer date than late ->March. Well, I don't know about " bumps in build numbers ". I was up to date as of yesterday but today I'm seeing new packages for various YaST2 components which might or might not be fixes for the " I can't add packages off the CD's with the GUI YaST2 version " issue that SO many of us were seeing. Just because it's the same version number of a program doesn't mean it wasn't patched to fix a bug. So the differences between say a build with the number 18 and the number 47 could be quite a lot. I don't know how familiar you are with Unix/Linux numbering schemes but a dot version or a new patched build can fix many issues. I can't comment on YOU...prior to 8.2 I was told it was for security updates and broken package updates. And for the most part I don't like YOU..since I started using Apt it's done quite well for me and that's what I'm using to download the updated RPM's with. What I may be seeing may be a mixture of feature updates (new builds) for gnome2 and kde3..etc..etc. Along with other updates. I don't know. I would maybe poke around on the ftp site to see for yourself what packages are there and compare the version numbers to what you have installed. Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
I can't comment on YOU...prior to 8.2 I was told it was for security updates and broken package updates. And for the most part I don't like YOU..since I started using Apt it's done quite well for me and that's what I'm using to download the updated RPM's with. What I may be seeing may be a mixture of feature updates (new builds) for gnome2 and kde3..etc..etc. Along with other updates. I don't know.
I would maybe poke around on the ftp site to see for yourself what packages are there and compare the version numbers to what you have installed.
Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
Ben What do you put in apt sources to get to these updates ? Mike
* michael norman (michaeltnorman@ntlworld.com) [030510 02:10]: -> -> ->What do you put in apt sources to get to these updates ? My sources.list looks like this... rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/8.2-i386 base kde mozilla packman packman-i686 security suse-people suser-tcousin update usr-local-bin xfree86· I added base when I noticed that 8.2 was on gwdg.de and ran "apt-get update && apt-get -d upgrade" and it said it had 601 packages that could be upgraded. I said yes. :) Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
On Saturday 10 May 2003 10:12, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* michael norman (michaeltnorman@ntlworld.com) [030510 02:10]: -> -> ->What do you put in apt sources to get to these updates ?
My sources.list looks like this...
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/8.2-i386 base kde mozilla packman packman-i686 security suse-people suser-tcousin update usr-local-bin xfree86·
I added base when I noticed that 8.2 was on gwdg.de and ran "apt-get update && apt-get -d upgrade" and it said it had 601 packages that could be upgraded. I said yes. :)
Regards,
-- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
Thanks for that. When you did the update did it break anything ? Mike
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 02:12:58AM -0700, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
I added base when I noticed that 8.2 was on gwdg.de and ran "apt-get update && apt-get -d upgrade" and it said it had 601 packages that could be upgraded. I said yes. :)
I don't know where number 601 comes from, the ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/8.2/rpm/i586 directory has 196 RPMs as of last night. All the rest should be non-official stuff from suse-people, usr-local-bin, etc Regards, -Kastus
Op zaterdag 10 mei 2003 16:28, schreef Kastus:
I don't know where number 601 comes from,
It's even more, but it depends on the number of applications (rpms).
the ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/8.2/rpm/i586 directory has 196 RPMs as of last night.
The "updates" are not in the update directory and they no updates as such. The rpms are the base rpms, and as has been stated before the release number (build number) of the online base rpms is a little higher than the ones on the CD/DVD. As mentioned before, pat calculates the update from the rpm packages online and not from a seperate database (as you). Apt therefor suggest to update the base rpms. It is up to the (apt) user to include the base component or not. If you leave out the base component no updates will be proposed.... -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
I added base when I noticed that 8.2 was on gwdg.de and ran "apt-get update && apt-get -d upgrade" and it said it had 601 packages that could be upgraded. I said yes. :)
The magic word is upgrade NOT update. That is why he shows so many packages available. Ken
* Kastus (NOSPAM@tprfct.net) [030510 07:31]: ->On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 02:12:58AM -0700, Ben Rosenberg wrote: ->> ->> I added base when I noticed that 8.2 was on gwdg.de and ran "apt-get ->> update && apt-get -d upgrade" and it said it had 601 packages that could ->> be upgraded. I said yes. :) -> ->I don't know where number 601 comes from, ->the ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/8.2/rpm/i586 directory ->has 196 RPMs as of last night. -> ->All the rest should be non-official stuff from suse-people, usr-local-bin, etc I never said they were ALL from the posting of 8.2. I just said " they posted 8.2 and there were a bunch of updates. " And all the updates came when I added base to my sources.list. And I can say this..there are more then 196 rpm's on those 5 CD's that make up 8.2 ;) Again, I just said 8.2 was released and when I checked there seemed to be a lot of updates..whatever directories they came from they were there. Mainly KDE and Gnome2 updates..so I suppooooose they came from supplementry. ;) -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 10:17:43AM -0700, Ben Rosenberg wrote: : * Kastus (NOSPAM@tprfct.net) [030510 07:31]: : ->On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 02:12:58AM -0700, Ben Rosenberg wrote: : ->> : ->> I added base when I noticed that 8.2 was on gwdg.de and ran "apt-get : ->> update && apt-get -d upgrade" and it said it had 601 packages that could : ->> be upgraded. I said yes. :) : -> : ->I don't know where number 601 comes from, : ->the ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/8.2/rpm/i586 directory : ->has 196 RPMs as of last night. : -> : ->All the rest should be non-official stuff from suse-people, usr-local-bin, etc : : I never said they were ALL from the posting of 8.2. I just said " they : posted 8.2 and there were a bunch of updates. " And all the updates came : when I added base to my sources.list. And I can say this..there are more : then 196 rpm's on those 5 CD's that make up 8.2 ;) : : Again, I just said 8.2 was released and when I checked there seemed to : be a lot of updates..whatever directories they came from they were : there. Mainly KDE and Gnome2 updates..so I suppooooose they came from : supplementry. ;) Please read the apt4rpm FAQ found at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/. It's explained in there. Same stuff, later build number. --Jerry Open-Source software isn't a matter of life or death... ...It's much more important than that!
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 10:17:43AM -0700, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
I never said they were ALL from the posting of 8.2. I just said " they posted 8.2 and there were a bunch of updates. " And all the updates came when I added base to my sources.list. And I can say this..there are more then 196 rpm's on those 5 CD's that make up 8.2 ;)
196 rpms are visible by YOU, that's what I meant. I usually rsync the whole update directory from ftp.gwdg.de and then update all my local machines from NFS share.
Again, I just said 8.2 was released and when I checked there seemed to be a lot of updates..whatever directories they came from they were there. Mainly KDE and Gnome2 updates..so I suppooooose they came from supplementry. ;)
This is probably the feature of apt. I doubt that fou4s updates all packages to 8.2 ftp version, same with YOU. Apt behaves in this case as if you change the source of installation from CD to FTP and perform system upgrade. There is nothing wrong in this. TIMTOWTDI :-) Regards, -Kastus
* michael norman (michaeltnorman@ntlworld.com) [030511 14:28]: -> ->What do you put in apt sources to get to these updates ? My sources.list looks like this. rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/8.2-i386 base kde mozilla packman packman-i686 security suse-people suser-tcousin update usr-local-bin xfree86· When 8.2 hit the ftp sites I just added base to it. And I noticed new builds of XFre86 4.3.0 so I readded xfree86. Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
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