[opensuse] Is it possible to install 11.2 from the iso image in an existing 11.1 system?

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Stan Goodman

17 Nov 2009 17 Nov '09

13:37

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Ken Schneider - openSUSE

17 Nov 17 Nov

13:53

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Yes. Set it to be the only repo and use zypper dup. You may need to update zypper first. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

17:21

At 15:53:02 on Tuesday Tuesday 17 November 2009, "Ken Schneider - openSUSE" wrote:

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Yes. Set it to be the only repo and use zypper dup. You may need to update zypper first. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998

Thanks. Since I know the iso file to be correct, that will eliminate doubt about the validity of the DVD source I used in an installation attempt that produced an unusable result. I'll first check YaST for a possible leater version of zypper. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ken Schneider - openSUSE

18:07

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At 15:53:02 on Tuesday Tuesday 17 November 2009, "Ken Schneider - openSUSE" wrote:

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The subject line says it all. Yes. Set it to be the only repo and use zypper dup. You may need to update zypper first. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998

Thanks. Since I know the iso file to be correct, that will eliminate doubt about the validity of the DVD source I used in an installation attempt that produced an unusable result.

I'll first check YaST for a possible leater version of zypper.

It should already be on the DVD, look there first. You might also want to do this in run-level 3. It is not necessary but since a reboot is necessary anyway... You can also consider adding any 11.2 repo's such as packman if you use them. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Verner Kjærsgaard

20:11

Ken Schneider - openSUSE skrev:

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The subject line says it all. Yes. Set it to be the only repo and use zypper dup. You may need to update zypper first. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 Thanks. Since I know the iso file to be correct, that will eliminate doubt about the validity of the DVD source I used in an installation attempt

At 15:53:02 on Tuesday Tuesday 17 November 2009, "Ken Schneider - openSUSE" wrote: that produced an unusable result.

I'll first check YaST for a possible leater version of zypper.

It should already be on the DVD, look there first. You might also want to do this in run-level 3. It is not necessary but since a reboot is necessary anyway...

You can also consider adding any 11.2 repo's such as packman if you use them.

To Ken S., - please elaborate on the zypper details... - I contemplated installing 11.2 into my existing 11.1 by new-installing into the existing partitions,- only NOT formatting my /home partition... - would this not work (I would of course make a full external backup of all my stuff in /home, my /etc/hosts and quite a few other custom files from my system) ? -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ken Schneider - openSUSE

18 Nov 18 Nov

13:59

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The subject line says it all. Yes. Set it to be the only repo and use zypper dup. You may need to update zypper first. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 Thanks. Since I know the iso file to be correct, that will eliminate doubt about the validity of the DVD source I used in an installation attempt

At 15:53:02 on Tuesday Tuesday 17 November 2009, "Ken Schneider - openSUSE" wrote: that produced an unusable result.

I'll first check YaST for a possible leater version of zypper.

It should already be on the DVD, look there first. You might also want to do this in run-level 3. It is not necessary but since a reboot is necessary anyway...

You can also consider adding any 11.2 repo's such as packman if you use them.

To Ken S.,

- please elaborate on the zypper details...

- I contemplated installing 11.2 into my existing 11.1 by new-installing into the existing partitions,- only NOT formatting my /home partition... - would this not work (I would of course make a full external backup of all my stuff in /home, my /etc/hosts and quite a few other custom files from my system) ?

I started using zypper dup with 11.2 after M5. I adjust the repo's so that the latest iso has highest priority, drop the old version iso's, generally drop to init 3 and then run zypper dup. It does a good job of sorting out what needs to be done. With milestones I would reboot to r/l 3 and compile the video driver (Nvidia for me) run init 5 and I'm good to go. Takes about have the time of booting to the DVD and running through all of the setup when all I want to do is upgrade. Works for me, may not for you. YMMV. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

17:27

At 15:53:02 on Tuesday Tuesday 17 November 2009, "Ken Schneider - openSUSE" wrote:

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Stan Goodman pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Yes. Set it to be the only repo and use zypper dup. You may need to update zypper first.

-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998

After reading a bit about zypper dup, I realize that my query was misunderstood. I should have realized this earlier. The misunderstand was the result of my excessive effort at brevity. Here is a better try: At present, there are two oS installations on the system, 11.1, which is the one currently in use, and 10.3, the one used previously, which is now serving for emergency and maintenance. This is the kind of arrangement that I like to keep on the machine. Now I am interested in installing 11.2, which would replace the present 10.3 release. I have downloaded the appropriate DVD iso file. My question was about the possibility of doing the following: 1) The 11.2 iso file resides in a directory in the 11.1 system, which is booted; 2) I cd to the directory occupied by the iso file, and somehow (this is the question) cause it to run the installer, which will direct to install 11.2 in the partitions formerly occupied by 10.3, including reformatting, etc. All this in order to eliminate the need for a DVD image. The justification is that I know that the iso file is valid because it returns the correct MD5 string, while the DVD I made from it is suspect because it produced an unusable 11.2 system. Is there a way to do that? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philip Dowie

17:43

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Now I am interested in installing 11.2, which would replace the present 10.3 release. I have downloaded the appropriate DVD iso file. My question was about the possibility of doing the following:

1) The 11.2 iso file resides in a directory in the 11.1 system, which is booted; 2) I cd to the directory occupied by the iso file, and somehow (this is the question) cause it to run the installer, which will direct to install 11.2 in the partitions formerly occupied by 10.3, including reformatting, etc.

Is there a way to do that?

why not boot the 10.3 system, mount a filesystem from the 11.1 system (read only if you are paranoid), mount the ISO, do all the manual dependancy resolution (there are several things from 10.3 that will need to be upgraded - rpm, zypper, curl, to name a few, after they are installed, add the ISO as a repository, *then* do zypper dup.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

17:49

On 2009/11/18 19:27 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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After reading a bit about zypper dup, I realize that my query was misunderstood. I should have realized this earlier. The misunderstand was the result of my excessive effort at brevity. Here is a better try:

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At present, there are two oS installations on the system, 11.1, which is the one currently in use, and 10.3, the one used previously, which is now serving for emergency and maintenance. This is the kind of arrangement that I like to keep on the machine.

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Now I am interested in installing 11.2, which would replace the present 10.3 release. I have downloaded the appropriate DVD iso file. My question was about the possibility of doing the following:

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1) The 11.2 iso file resides in a directory in the 11.1 system, which is booted; 2) I cd to the directory occupied by the iso file, and somehow (this is the question) cause it to run the installer, which will direct to install 11.2 in the partitions formerly occupied by 10.3, including reformatting, etc.

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All this in order to eliminate the need for a DVD image. The justification is that I know that the iso file is valid because it returns the correct MD5 string, while the DVD I made from it is suspect because it produced an unusable 11.2 system.

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Is there a way to do that?

Sort of. You have to actually run the installation kernel and initrd to install. This you can probably do with kexec, which I haven't tried personally. I find it easy enough to put the installation kernel and initrd somewhere Grub can find them, and reboot using them. No need to burn anything regardless which source media type you prefer. http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_using_images (alternate installation methods) http://en.opensuse.org/Kexec (reboot without rebooting) http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc (installation option reference) http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/iso/openSUSE-11.2-NET-i586.is... (small CD iso you can burn to use to start 32 bit x86 installation) http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/boot/i386/loader/lin... (installation kernel) http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/boot/i386/loader/ini... (installation initrd) -- The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 1 Corinthians 7:3 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

20:42

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2009 06:27 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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After reading a bit about zypper dup, I realize that my query was misunderstood. I should have realized this earlier. The misunderstand was the result of my excessive effort at brevity. Here is a better try:

At present, there are two oS installations on the system, 11.1, which is the one currently in use, and 10.3, the one used previously, which is now serving for emergency and maintenance. This is the kind of arrangement that I like to keep on the machine.

Now I am interested in installing 11.2, which would replace the present 10.3 release. I have downloaded the appropriate DVD iso file. My question was about the possibility of doing the following:

1) The 11.2 iso file resides in a directory in the 11.1 system, which is booted; 2) I cd to the directory occupied by the iso file, and somehow (this is the question) cause it to run the installer, which will direct to install 11.2 in the partitions formerly occupied by 10.3, including reformatting, etc.

I know a way of doing a zypper dup of a partition while running another linux. I do it a lot, with factory, while running 11.0. But the target partition already has oS installed. Is this what you want? If yes, I'll explain. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-ex-factory "Emerald" GM) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksEXDAACgkQU92UU+smfQWGdACeMoyMkkfIQLMsgb+Rvzh/316o kpoAn30vR7J/lXqQZ5w1uDNkBpYC0qjM =S6Am -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

21:10

At 22:42:25 on Wednesday Wednesday 18 November 2009, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On 11/18/2009 06:27 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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After reading a bit about zypper dup, I realize that my query was misunderstood. I should have realized this earlier. The misunderstand was the result of my excessive effort at brevity. Here is a better try:

At present, there are two oS installations on the system, 11.1, which is the one currently in use, and 10.3, the one used previously, which is now serving for emergency and maintenance. This is the kind of arrangement that I like to keep on the machine.

Now I am interested in installing 11.2, which would replace the present 10.3 release. I have downloaded the appropriate DVD iso file. My question was about the possibility of doing the following:

1) The 11.2 iso file resides in a directory in the 11.1 system, which is booted; 2) I cd to the directory occupied by the iso file, and somehow (this is the question) cause it to run the installer, which will direct to install 11.2 in the partitions formerly occupied by 10.3, including reformatting, etc.

I know a way of doing a zypper dup of a partition while running another linux. I do it a lot, with factory, while running 11.0. But the target partition already has oS installed. Is this what you want? If yes, I'll explain.

No. What I want to do is to have the installer reformat the target partitions and install 11.2 on them. Gracias en todo caso...

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-ex-factory "Emerald" GM) -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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21:19

New subject: [opensuse] Is it possible to install 11.2 from the iso image in an existing 11.1 system?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 21:10, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 22:42:25 on Wednesday Wednesday 18 November 2009, "Carlos E. R." wrote: [...]

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I know a way of doing a zypper dup of a partition while running another linux. I do it a lot, with factory, while running 11.0. But the target partition already has oS installed. Is this what you want? If yes, I'll explain.

No. What I want to do is to have the installer reformat the target partitions and install 11.2 on them. Then the method described by Felix Miata is what you need. This is what I use as I see no need to burn dvds...

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Michael Roberts

19 Nov 19 Nov

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New subject: [opensuse] Is it possible to install 11.2 from the iso image in an existing 11.1 system?

2009/11/18 ne... :

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 21:10, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 22:42:25 on Wednesday Wednesday 18 November 2009, "Carlos E. R." wrote: [...] No. What I want to do is to have the installer reformat the target partitions and install 11.2 on them. Then the method described by Felix Miata is what you need. This is what I use as I see no need to burn dvds...

You could also have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD . I used this method happily with 10.3, although for 11.{0,1} I reverted to using CDs and a single disk because installations to a multi-disk system seem broken (files written to the wrong disk with 11.0, grub's menu.lst losing other linux installations with 11.1 - already mentioned in other mails.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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