[opensuse] What are the recommended reporitories for KDE/Leap 42.1?
Hi all. What repositories should I have selected to have a properly working KDE desktop in Leap 42.1? Or do I need to go back to 13.2 and start afresh with a clean install? What I'm currently seeing: On first login after boot, often plasma widgets (e.g. the Start menu search field) and dialog boxes (e.g. the KDE Wallet password dialog) won't accept any keyboard input, despite apparently having the focus. This requires logging out and back in again to get things working. Kmail5 never starts first time - it hangs indefinitely, requiring a "pkill kmail" followed by another attempt, which usually then works. Konsole windows eventually stop responding to keyboard input after having been open for a while, necessitating a logout/login to restore keyboard input. No DTV in Kaffeine (or any other DTV app) - black screen only, despite the DTV tuner card apparently correctly tuning and the correct program details being displayed on the OSD. A space bar that can't keep up with my typing speed, resulting in wordsthatfrequentlyrunon (requiring frequent back-spaces to correct - at this rate I'll wear out my backspace key). Updates that frequently result in unsolvable dependency conflicts. KDE-related repositories that I currently have selected: KDE Framework 5 OpenSuSE-Leap-42.1-Update KDE:Extra KDE Applications KDE Unstable Extra (mainly for kaffeine5, which isn't working properly either) Qt 5.7 When I first upgraded to 42.1, the only DE could get (sort of) working was Gnome. Without the above repositories, I could not even get close to a working KDE desktop after upgrading from 13.2. Oh - I also lost all of my desktop customisations and many plasma widgets that I had come to rely on that obviously haven't been ported to KF5/Plasma 5. That makes it even more tempting to revert. Nevertheless, it feels like I'm almost there with KF5/Plasma5, as long as I can figure out how to get everything that does work, working properly. Or do I just blow the whole lot away and go to 42.2 as a fresh install? Thanks in advance, Rodney. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 August 2016 00:51:42 Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all. What repositories should I have selected to have a properly working KDE desktop in Leap 42.1? Or do I need to go back to 13.2 and start afresh with a clean install?
[…] KDE-related repositories that I currently have selected:
KDE Framework 5 OpenSuSE-Leap-42.1-Update KDE:Extra KDE Applications KDE Unstable Extra (mainly for kaffeine5, which isn't working properly either) Qt 5.7
When I first upgraded to 42.1, the only DE could get (sort of) working was Gnome. Without the above repositories, I could not even get close to a working KDE desktop after upgrading from 13.2.
Oh - I also lost all of my desktop customisations and many plasma widgets that I had come to rely on that obviously haven't been ported to KF5/Plasma 5. That makes it even more tempting to revert. Nevertheless, it feels like I'm almost there with KF5/Plasma5, as long as I can figure out how to get everything that does work, working properly.
Adding these additional repos will cause a lot of pain if you are not careful and explicitly select which packages you want to install from which additional repo. Leap 42.1 is very much working fine with no additional KDE repo - see for example the openQA system test https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/234878 - and also updating from e.g. openSUSE 13.2 works. All of this is also automatically tested. I suggest the problems come either from a weird repo mix or your configuration files. It might help to remove all additional repos, update to the official state, add back whatever you need. A clean start by deleting your config folder and hand-picking what is desired might also help.
Or do I just blow the whole lot away and go to 42.2 as a fresh install?
You should not rely on Leap 42.2 in the current Alpha state to be usable as a stable user system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 5:32:10 PM ACST Oliver Kurz wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2016 00:51:42 Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all. What repositories should I have selected to have a properly working KDE desktop in Leap 42.1? Or do I need to go back to 13.2 and start afresh with a clean install?
[…] KDE-related repositories that I currently have selected:
KDE Framework 5 OpenSuSE-Leap-42.1-Update KDE:Extra KDE Applications KDE Unstable Extra (mainly for kaffeine5, which isn't working properly either) Qt 5.7
[...]
Adding these additional repos will cause a lot of pain if you are not careful and explicitly select which packages you want to install from which additional repo. Leap 42.1 is very much working fine with no additional KDE repo - see for example the openQA system test https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/234878 - and also updating from e.g. openSUSE 13.2 works. All of this is also automatically tested.
Thanks, Oliver. I did update from 13.2 using the documented procedure, using only the main and update repos, and ended up with a badly broken, non-working system with no KDE desktop. Despite several attempts, that remained the case until I added the additional repositories. It is supposed to work, but in my case it didn't. Maybe I should have done a clean install instead of an upgrade.
I suggest the problems come either from a weird repo mix or your configuration files. It might help to remove all additional repos, update to the official state, add back whatever you need. A clean start by deleting your config folder and hand-picking what is desired might also help.
OK. I have been fairly careful in what I have selected from each repo, to get to a working system. It may be a conflict from some leftover configs from 13.2, but given that none of my desktop settings were remembered from 13.2 to Leap it looked to me like it used a different (separate?) config folder structure than KDE4.
Or do I just blow the whole lot away and go to 42.2 as a fresh install?
You should not rely on Leap 42.2 in the current Alpha state to be usable as a stable user system.
Fair call. It seems it will either be a clean install of 42.1 or a clean re- install of 13.2, and then make all KF5-related packages taboo before doing any updates. I just don't fancy the idea of having to go through the pain of rebuilding the system from scratch. Looks like I'll need another holiday from work to fix it. Regards, Rodney. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 12:51:42 AM ACST Rodney Baker wrote:
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KDE-related repositories that I currently have selected:
KDE Framework 5 OpenSuSE-Leap-42.1-Update KDE:Extra KDE Applications KDE Unstable Extra (mainly for kaffeine5, which isn't working properly either) Qt 5.7 [...]
Small correction - I don't have KDE Unstable Extra enabled - I had nothing installed from that repository so it has been disabled.
Thanks in advance, Rodney.
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