[opensuse] firefox 49 rendering option with css class incorrectly
I guess this isn't new, but I've only just today seen it on 13.1 and 42.2 - firefox 49.0.x I have something along the following: <select> <option>Donald</option> <option class="abc">Tom</option> <option class="abc">Dick</option> <option class="abc">Harry</option> </select> In my case, css class "abc" looks like this: option.abc { padding-left: 1em; color: blue; } I.e. the entries Tom, Dick and Harry should be indented on the left, and be displayed in blue. With ff49, this is completely ignored. I don't know when it changed - in ff34 it's still working. In my son's "Edge" on Windows, it works partially (colour, but no indentation). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.8°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
I guess this isn't new, but I've only just today seen it on 13.1 and 42.2 - firefox 49.0.x
I have something along the following:
<select> <option>Donald</option> <option class="abc">Tom</option> <option class="abc">Dick</option> <option class="abc">Harry</option> </select>
In my case, css class "abc" looks like this:
option.abc { padding-left: 1em; color: blue; }
I.e. the entries Tom, Dick and Harry should be indented on the left, and be displayed in blue.
With ff49, this is completely ignored. I don't know when it changed - in ff34 it's still working. In my son's "Edge" on Windows, it works partially (colour, but no indentation).
With ff49.0.2 on WindowsXP it works too. It's not a public website, so I can't immediately show you. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-17 16:57 (UTC+0100):
I guess this isn't new, but I've only just today seen it on 13.1 and 42.2 - firefox 49.0.x
I have something along the following:
<select> <option>Donald</option> <option class="abc">Tom</option> <option class="abc">Dick</option> <option class="abc">Harry</option> </select>
In my case, css class "abc" looks like this:
option.abc { padding-left: 1em; color: blue; }
I.e. the entries Tom, Dick and Harry should be indented on the left, and be displayed in blue.
With ff49, this is completely ignored. I don't know when it changed - in ff34 it's still working. In my son's "Edge" on Windows, it works partially (colour, but no indentation).
The following works here in all FF versions tested thru 49.0.2 (Konq3 ignores color and indent): <!DOCTYPE html> <html LANG="en"> <head> <title>Per Test</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <style> option.abc { padding-left: 1em; color: blue; } </style> </head> <body> <select> <option>Donald</option> <option class="abc">Tom</option> <option class="abc">Dick</option> <option class="abc">Harry</option> </select> </body> </html> -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-17 16:57 (UTC+0100):
I guess this isn't new, but I've only just today seen it on 13.1 and 42.2 - firefox 49.0.x
I have something along the following:
<select> <option>Donald</option> <option class="abc">Tom</option> <option class="abc">Dick</option> <option class="abc">Harry</option> </select>
In my case, css class "abc" looks like this:
option.abc { padding-left: 1em; color: blue; }
I.e. the entries Tom, Dick and Harry should be indented on the left, and be displayed in blue.
With ff49, this is completely ignored. I don't know when it changed - in ff34 it's still working. In my son's "Edge" on Windows, it works partially (colour, but no indentation).
The following works here in all FF versions tested thru 49.0.2 (Konq3 ignores color and indent):
<!DOCTYPE html> <html LANG="en"> <head> <title>Per Test</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <style> option.abc { padding-left: 1em; color: blue; } </style> </head> <body> <select> <option>Donald</option> <option class="abc">Tom</option> <option class="abc">Dick</option> <option class="abc">Harry</option> </select> </body> </html>
Hi Felix on leap422, your code shows the same fault in ff49: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix my example too: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-option I see the issue on openSUSE 13.1 and on Leap422. Have not checked what it looks like on Leap421. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2016, Per Jessen wrote:
Hi Felix
on leap422, your code shows the same fault in ff49: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix
my example too: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-option
I see the issue on openSUSE 13.1 and on Leap422. Have not checked what it looks like on Leap421.
This is a screenshot from FF 49.0.2 on my 42.2 Workstation: http://paste.opensuse.org/55934100 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
sdm wrote:
On 11/17/2016, Per Jessen wrote:
Hi Felix
on leap422, your code shows the same fault in ff49: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix
my example too: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-option
I see the issue on openSUSE 13.1 and on Leap422. Have not checked what it looks like on Leap421.
This is a screenshot from FF 49.0.2 on my 42.2 Workstation: http://paste.opensuse.org/55934100
Hmm, that looks good - how about my example? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2016 09:46 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
sdm wrote:
On 11/17/2016, Per Jessen wrote:
Hi Felix
on leap422, your code shows the same fault in ff49: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix
my example too: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-option
I see the issue on openSUSE 13.1 and on Leap422. Have not checked what it looks like on Leap421.
This is a screenshot from FF 49.0.2 on my 42.2 Workstation: http://paste.opensuse.org/55934100 Hmm, that looks good - how about my example?
http://paste.opensuse.org/31772066 Looks OK here -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
sdm wrote:
On 11/17/2016 09:46 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
sdm wrote:
On 11/17/2016, Per Jessen wrote:
Hi Felix
on leap422, your code shows the same fault in ff49: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix
my example too: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-option
I see the issue on openSUSE 13.1 and on Leap422. Have not checked what it looks like on Leap421.
This is a screenshot from FF 49.0.2 on my 42.2 Workstation: http://paste.opensuse.org/55934100 Hmm, that looks good - how about my example?
http://paste.opensuse.org/31772066 Looks OK here
Yup, it sure does. Any suggestions anyone? Why should this simple bit of HTML have problems rendering on my Leap422+FF49, but not on others' ? And works fine on Windows too. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.2°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2016, Per Jessen wrote:
Yup, it sure does.
Any suggestions anyone? Why should this simple bit of HTML have problems rendering on my Leap422+FF49, but not on others' ? And works fine on Windows too.
Did you try it with a clean FF user profile? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
sdm wrote:
On 11/17/2016, Per Jessen wrote:
Yup, it sure does.
Any suggestions anyone? Why should this simple bit of HTML have problems rendering on my Leap422+FF49, but not on others' ? And works fine on Windows too.
Did you try it with a clean FF user profile?
As clean as it comes with Leap422 - I installed a new laptop today. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.3°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-17 13:15 (UTC-0500):
Any suggestions anyone? Why should this simple bit of HTML have problems rendering on my Leap422+FF49, but not on others' ? And works fine on Windows too.
I've been fooling with this without putting my finger on it precisely yet, but I have two theories: 1-(secondary T) profile dependence 2a-(primary T) fallout bug from change from GTK2 to GTK3 toolkit made recently in FF. Check which toolkit your FF is using via about:buildconfig. 2b-theme dependence on account of 2a The reasons for 2a above is this: A: OK on Windows; B: with either your or my version of the HTML and CSS source, opening any of the main menu choices causes blue text to replace black text for the highlighted menu selection opened in either 49 or 50 but not 45ESR or older. What results do you get from SeaMonkey 2.40 on openSUSE? Exactly which build of FF49 are you running on openSUSE? Which DE are you using, and which GTK2 and GTK3 themes are installed/selected? When I ran 49 on 42.1 using mozilla.org builds, I got the results I previously reported. Now I have 50, and get the results you reported.... -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata composed on 2016-11-17 16:14 (UTC-0500):
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-17 19:15 (UTC+0100):
Any suggestions anyone? Why should this simple bit of HTML have problems rendering on my Leap422+FF49, but not on others' ? And works fine on Windows too.
I've been fooling with this without putting my finger on it precisely yet, but I have two theories:
1-(secondary T) profile dependence
2a-(primary T) fallout bug from change from GTK2 to GTK3 toolkit made recently in FF. Check which toolkit your FF is using via about:buildconfig.
2b-theme dependence on account of 2a
The reasons for 2a above is this: A: OK on Windows; B: with either your or my version of the HTML and CSS source, opening any of the main menu choices causes blue text to replace black text for the highlighted menu selection opened in either 49 or 50 but not 45ESR or older.
I asked on irc://moznet/firefox about the blue main menu selection text. All responders reported it's normal with the default GTK3 theme. When I did the same testing on 42.2 with TDE, the styles were as almost expected in the test pages. The exception matched the menus. Whichever option in page or main menu was selected was black text on a blue background rather than blue or black text on a gray background like the rest of the UI theming, besides suffering this upstream bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269274 http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad.png Debian 9 (Stretch) & TDE suffer same upstream font size problem, but font colors are as expected: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-tde-deb9colorsOK-fontsizesBad.png Colors and font sizes as expected on KDE3 on 42.1: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-kde3-OS421colorsOK.png
What results do you get from SeaMonkey 2.40 on openSUSE?
Exactly which build of FF49 are you running on openSUSE?
Which DE are you using, and which GTK2 and GTK3 themes are installed/selected?
When I ran 49 on 42.1 using mozilla.org builds, I got the results I previously reported. Now I have 50, and get the results you reported....
Using same 50.0 mozilla.org FF on Debian Stretch with TDE and default GTK3 theming, colors and padding of test pages http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/per.html http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix are as expected (same as 45.5ESR and older FF). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata composed on 2016-11-18 01:54 (UTC-0500):
I asked on irc://moznet/firefox about the blue main menu selection text. All responders reported it's normal with the default GTK3 theme.
When I did the same testing on 42.2 with TDE, the styles were as almost expected in the test pages. The exception matched the menus. Whichever option in page or main menu was selected was black text on a blue background rather than blue or black text on a gray background like the rest of the UI theming, besides suffering this upstream bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269274 http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad.png
Getting GTK_THEME=Adwaita into the ENVIRONMENT before starting FF50 solves the above menu selection colors problem on 42.2 here. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Felix Miata composed on 2016-11-18 01:54 (UTC-0500):
I asked on irc://moznet/firefox about the blue main menu selection text. All responders reported it's normal with the default GTK3 theme.
When I did the same testing on 42.2 with TDE, the styles were as almost expected in the test pages. The exception matched the menus. Whichever option in page or main menu was selected was black text on a blue background rather than blue or black text on a gray background like the rest of the UI theming, besides suffering this upstream bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269274 http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad.png
Getting
GTK_THEME=Adwaita
into the ENVIRONMENT before starting FF50 solves the above menu selection colors problem on 42.2 here.
I started FF49.0.2 from the cmdline "GTK_THEME=Adwaita firefox" - didn't change anything. -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-18 09:23 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Getting
GTK_THEME=Adwaita
into the ENVIRONMENT before starting FF50 solves the above menu selection colors problem on 42.2 here.
I started FF49.0.2 from the cmdline "GTK_THEME=Adwaita firefox" - didn't change anything.
While experimenting I did it thus export GTK_THEME=Adwaita; /usr/local/ff50/firefox Once I found it worked, I moved the export into ~/.profile, logged out and back in. Whether there's a better way I don't know. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-18 09:23 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Getting
GTK_THEME=Adwaita
into the ENVIRONMENT before starting FF50 solves the above menu selection colors problem on 42.2 here.
I started FF49.0.2 from the cmdline "GTK_THEME=Adwaita firefox" - didn't change anything.
While experimenting I did it thus
export GTK_THEME=Adwaita; /usr/local/ff50/firefox
Once I found it worked, I moved the export into ~/.profile, logged out and back in. Whether there's a better way I don't know.
I tried that too, but it made no difference. I'm working with FF49 though. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-18 09:23 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Getting
GTK_THEME=Adwaita
into the ENVIRONMENT before starting FF50 solves the above menu selection colors problem on 42.2 here.
I started FF49.0.2 from the cmdline "GTK_THEME=Adwaita firefox" - didn't change anything.
While experimenting I did it thus
export GTK_THEME=Adwaita; /usr/local/ff50/firefox
Once I found it worked, I moved the export into ~/.profile, logged out and back in. Whether there's a better way I don't know.
I tried that too, but it made no difference. I'm working with FF49 though.
Have just patched leap421 and upgraded to ff50, made no difference, with or without GTK_THEME=Adwaita. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1011196 -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
hi, my problem is the new fonts seems to me very small and dense and as i spend most of my time reading text on the computer it really hurts my eyes here is the different between 42.1 fonts and 42.2 fonts: http://oi63.tinypic.com/ix9zeq.jpg http://oi67.tinypic.com/30rqhc7.jpg i remember before 42.2 was released leap 42.1 got an OPTIONAL update to change the same stupid fonts: Optional update for desktop-fonts: - Roboto prefered for sans and serif and Source Sans Pro for monospace [bsc#951898] - install google-roboto-fonts instead of dejavu-fonts in -fonts pattern, add noto-sans to -fonts_opt pattern [bnc#951898] References: 951898 (bugzilla) : fonts are ugly compared to Mint and Ubuntu it was because of the following bug report: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951898 here the following changes after applying this update patch: http://pastebin.com/raw/S8eRw3h1 could you please help me switch back to leap 42.1 fonts ??? i'm using Gnome Version 3.20.2, linux-309z 4.4.27-2-default x86_64, display res:1360*768 AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor × 2 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] [1002:9610] Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device [1019:1b61] Kernel driver in use: radeon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-21 08:44, TechnoTux wrote:
hi, my problem is the new fonts seems to me very small and dense and as i spend most of my time reading text on the computer it really hurts my eyes here is the different between 42.1 fonts and 42.2 fonts:
Suggestion. You hijacked a thread. Ie, you took an email, in this case this from the thread "Re: [opensuse] firefox 49 rendering option with css class incorrectly" You hit "reply-all", then deleted the subject line, then wrote your own subject line, then send. Well, you see, the mail system tracks what you did, and shows your new post deep inside another thread about a totally different subject, where many people will not see it. My recommendation is to start a new thread, with the "new" button, not "reply", enter the address, enter the subject, enter the text, so that more people see it and avoid confusions. Thank you! -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Per Jessen wrote:
Have just patched leap421 and upgraded to ff50, made no difference, with or without GTK_THEME=Adwaita.
Ditto on Leap422. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Have just patched leap421 and upgraded to ff50, made no difference, with or without GTK_THEME=Adwaita.
The bugreport was closed and it was suggested I pursue this upstream. Judging by the responses sofar, not everyone is seeing this problem - sort of suggests it is an openSUSE problem? Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) - opensuse version,desktop environment,FF-version,works|doesnt work I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable. Personally, I see the problem in FF49 and FF50, in KDE on 13.1 and Leap42[12]. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:56, Per Jessen a écrit :
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
it works (in fact 4 options, including the initial one). openSUSE 42.1, FF 50.0 jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:56, Per Jessen a écrit :
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
it works (in fact 4 options, including the initial one). openSUSE 42.1, FF 50.0
You're right, four options, but only the bottom three displayed indented in blue. Which desktop environment - KDE or Gnome or something else? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 22/11/2016 à 13:08, Per Jessen a écrit :
You're right, four options, but only the bottom three displayed indented in blue. Which desktop environment - KDE or Gnome or something else?
kde, or plasma whatever openSUSE gives as default from Dolphin: KDE Frameworks 5.21.0 Qt 5.5.1 (built against 5.5.1) The xcb windowing system jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 22/11/2016 à 13:08, Per Jessen a écrit :
You're right, four options, but only the bottom three displayed indented in blue. Which desktop environment - KDE or Gnome or something else?
kde, or plasma whatever openSUSE gives as default
Okay, that's KDE. I really wonder what makes the difference then. On 421, with KDE, in FF50 it does not work for me. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 22/11/2016 à 13:48, Per Jessen a écrit :
Okay, that's KDE. I really wonder what makes the difference then. On 421, with KDE, in FF50 it does not work for me.
try a new user jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 22/11/2016 à 13:48, Per Jessen a écrit :
Okay, that's KDE. I really wonder what makes the difference then. On 421, with KDE, in FF50 it does not work for me.
try a new user
Been there, done that. And it's a brand new install. Also, same problem on 13.1 and leap421. It works in Seamonkey and on WindowsXP. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-22 09:56, Per Jessen wrote:
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
Er... try other browser. Chrome displays non indented, but the drop list button itself is indented two inches. If I reduce the window width, then it moves to the left, and to the right if I expand it. Huh, now I see that it does almost the same in FF. FF shows indented blue entries. 49.0.2 XFCE on 13.1, up to date.
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
I would, but I'm unsure how to find out. cer@Telcontar:~> set | grep GTK GTK_MODULES=canberra-gtk-module cer@Telcontar:~> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-11-22 09:56, Per Jessen wrote:
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
Er... try other browser. Chrome displays non indented, but the drop list button itself is indented two inches. If I reduce the window width, then it moves to the left, and to the right if I expand it. Huh, now I see that it does almost the same in FF.
Yes, that is probably the auto-margin. What is your verdict on chrome - it works, almost? (no indent, but color blue?)
FF shows indented blue entries. 49.0.2 XFCE on 13.1, up to date.
Okay. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-22 13:57, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, that is probably the auto-margin. What is your verdict on chrome - it works, almost? (no indent, but color blue?)
That's right, no indent, but blue. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-22 09:56 (UTC+0100): ...
Per Jessen wrote:
Have just patched leap421 and upgraded to ff50, made no difference, with or without GTK_THEME=Adwaita.
The bugreport was closed and it was suggested I pursue this upstream. Judging by the responses sofar, not everyone is seeing this problem - sort of suggests it is an openSUSE problem?
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
opensuse version,desktop environment,FF-version,works|doesnt work
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Upthread GTK_THEME explanation: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-11/msg00471.html
Personally, I see the problem in FF49 and FF50, in KDE on 13.1 and Leap42[12].
If you really want to get to the bottom of this I suggest you bring it up in one or more of the following: irc://moznet/#firefox irc://moznet/#webcompat irc://moznet/#css http://forums.mozillazine.org/ news:mozilla.support.firefox https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-firefox -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-22 09:56 (UTC+0100): ...
Per Jessen wrote:
Have just patched leap421 and upgraded to ff50, made no difference, with or without GTK_THEME=Adwaita.
The bugreport was closed and it was suggested I pursue this upstream. Judging by the responses sofar, not everyone is seeing this problem - sort of suggests it is an openSUSE problem?
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
opensuse version,desktop environment,FF-version,works|doesnt work
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Upthread GTK_THEME explanation: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-11/msg00471.html
Except it doesn't do much explaining :-) Also, changing that variable had zero effect on my systems.
Personally, I see the problem in FF49 and FF50, in KDE on 13.1 and Leap42[12].
If you really want to get to the bottom of this I suggest you bring it up in one or more of the following:
irc://moznet/#firefox irc://moznet/#webcompat irc://moznet/#css http://forums.mozillazine.org/ news:mozilla.support.firefox https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-firefox
Yup, been there already. Some people confirmed it, in different versions though. I'm not sure how to pursue it - maybe I'll to backtrace when the change took place, that ought to be possible. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 07:23 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote: ...
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Upthread GTK_THEME explanation: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-11/msg00471.html
Except it doesn't do much explaining :-) Also, changing that variable had zero effect on my systems.
Whether it has any effect may be impacted by what GTK overhead/foundation is installed. Here, it's minimal, since all I care about from GTK is that Gimp, Mozilla apps, and whatever multimedia apps I have installed that require it are usable: # egrep 'Recommend|Requires =' /etc/zypp/zyp*conf /etc/zypp/zypp.conf: solver.onlyRequires = true /etc/zypp/zypper.conf: installRecommends = no # rpm -qa | grep -i gtk | wc -l 37 # rpm -qa | grep -i gtk | sort PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.0.7-3.5.x86_64 at-spi2-atk-gtk2-2.16.0-2.2.x86_64 gtk2-branding-openSUSE-42.1-13.1.noarch gtk2-data-2.24.31-11.2.noarch gtk2-engine-oxygen-1.4.6-4.3.x86_64 gtk2-lang-2.24.31-11.2.noarch gtk2-metatheme-adwaita-3.16.2-2.2.noarch gtk2-theme-oxygen-1.4.6-4.3.x86_64 gtk2-theming-engine-adwaita-3.16.2-2.2.x86_64 gtk2-tools-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 gtk2-tools-32bit-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 gtk3-branding-openSUSE-42.1-1.1.noarch gtk3-data-3.16.7-5.1.noarch gtk3-lang-3.16.7-5.1.noarch gtk3-metatheme-adwaita-3.16.2-2.2.noarch gtk3-tools-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 handbrake-gtk-0.10.5-2.15.x86_64 kde3-gtk-qt-engine-0.8svn20071009-64.1.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk-module-common-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk0-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk2-module-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-0-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-module-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libgtk-2_0-0-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 libgtk-2_0-0-32bit-2.24.29-5.2.x86_64 libgtk-3-0-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 libgtkmm-2_4-1-2.24.4-5.2.x86_64 libgtkmm-3_0-1-3.16.0-2.2.x86_64 libjavascriptcoregtk-1_0-0-2.4.10-7.2.x86_64 libjavascriptcoregtk-3_0-0-2.4.10-10.1.x86_64 libqt5-qtbase-platformtheme-gtk2-5.5.1-10.1.x86_64 libwebkitgtk-1_0-0-2.4.10-7.2.x86_64 libwebkitgtk-3_0-0-2.4.10-10.1.x86_64 perl-Gtk2-1.2496-2.11.x86_64 perl-Gtk2-Ex-FormFactory-0.67-1.1.noarch python-gtk-2.24.0-15.1.x86_64 typelib-1_0-Gtk-3_0-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 07:23 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote: ...
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Upthread GTK_THEME explanation: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-11/msg00471.html
Except it doesn't do much explaining :-) Also, changing that variable had zero effect on my systems.
Whether it has any effect may be impacted by what GTK overhead/foundation is installed. Here, it's minimal, since all I care about from GTK is that Gimp, Mozilla apps, and whatever multimedia apps I have installed that require it are usable:
I just have the default installed.
# rpm -qa | grep -i gtk | wc -l 37
I have 49. Here is the diff (when compared to my Leap421 test system): office34:~ # diff -u felix-gtk per-gtk --- felix-gtk 2016-11-23 09:51:19.181180647 +0100 +++ per-gtk 2016-11-23 09:51:27.913100803 +0100 @@ -1,38 +1,49 @@ -# rpm -qa | grep -i gtk | sort -PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.0.7-3.5.x86_64 at-spi2-atk-gtk2-2.16.0-2.2.x86_64 +breeze-gtk-5.5.5-8.1.x86_64 gtk2-branding-openSUSE-42.1-13.1.noarch gtk2-data-2.24.31-11.2.noarch -gtk2-engine-oxygen-1.4.6-4.3.x86_64 +gtk2-immodule-amharic-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 +gtk2-immodule-inuktitut-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 +gtk2-immodule-thai-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 +gtk2-immodule-vietnamese-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 gtk2-lang-2.24.31-11.2.noarch gtk2-metatheme-adwaita-3.16.2-2.2.noarch -gtk2-theme-oxygen-1.4.6-4.3.x86_64 gtk2-theming-engine-adwaita-3.16.2-2.2.x86_64 gtk2-tools-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 -gtk2-tools-32bit-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 gtk3-branding-openSUSE-42.1-1.1.noarch gtk3-data-3.16.7-5.1.noarch +gtk3-immodule-amharic-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 +gtk3-immodule-inuktitut-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 +gtk3-immodule-thai-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 +gtk3-immodule-vietnamese-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 gtk3-lang-3.16.7-5.1.noarch gtk3-metatheme-adwaita-3.16.2-2.2.noarch gtk3-tools-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 -handbrake-gtk-0.10.5-2.15.x86_64 -kde3-gtk-qt-engine-0.8svn20071009-64.1.x86_64 -libcanberra-gtk-module-common-0.30-9.2.x86_64 +kde-gtk-config5-5.5.5-10.1.x86_64 +kde-gtk-config5-lang-5.5.5-10.1.noarch libcanberra-gtk0-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk2-module-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-0-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-module-0.30-9.2.x86_64 +libcanberra-gtk-module-common-0.30-9.2.x86_64 libgtk-2_0-0-2.24.31-11.2.x86_64 -libgtk-2_0-0-32bit-2.24.29-5.2.x86_64 libgtk-3-0-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 -libgtkmm-2_4-1-2.24.4-5.2.x86_64 -libgtkmm-3_0-1-3.16.0-2.2.x86_64 libjavascriptcoregtk-1_0-0-2.4.10-7.2.x86_64 libjavascriptcoregtk-3_0-0-2.4.10-10.1.x86_64 +libjavascriptcoregtk-4_0-18-2.10.7-7.1.x86_64 libqt5-qtbase-platformtheme-gtk2-5.5.1-10.1.x86_64 +libwebkit2gtk3-lang-2.10.7-7.1.noarch +libwebkit2gtk-4_0-37-2.10.7-7.1.x86_64 libwebkitgtk-1_0-0-2.4.10-7.2.x86_64 -libwebkitgtk-3_0-0-2.4.10-10.1.x86_64 -perl-Gtk2-1.2496-2.11.x86_64 -perl-Gtk2-Ex-FormFactory-0.67-1.1.noarch +libwebkitgtk2-lang-2.4.10-7.2.noarch +libwx_gtk2u_adv-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +libwx_gtk2u_aui-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +libwx_gtk2u_core-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +libwx_gtk2u_gl-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +libwx_gtk2u_html-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +libwx_gtk2u_qa-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2_8-0-stl-2.8.12-29.11.x86_64 +PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.0.7-3.5.x86_64 python-gtk-2.24.0-15.1.x86_64 typelib-1_0-Gtk-3_0-3.16.7-5.1.x86_64 +webkit2gtk-4_0-injected-bundles-2.10.7-7.1.x86_64 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.6°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/11/2016 10:56, Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Have just patched leap421 and upgraded to ff50, made no difference, with or without GTK_THEME=Adwaita.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1011196 The bugreport was closed and it was suggested I pursue this upstream. Judging by the responses sofar, not everyone is seeing this problem - sort of suggests it is an openSUSE problem?
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
opensuse version,desktop environment,FF-version,works|doesnt work
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Personally, I see the problem in FF49 and FF50, in KDE on 13.1 and Leap42[12].
This may be usefull, I just installed 42.2 over 42.1 (Not update) using the import user from old option, with my old home intact. In 42.1 FF49 your page displayed the pull down the same as the center image which I assume is correct. In 42.2 FF50 the pull down matches the "wrong" image. The fonts in 42.2 firefox are also lousy, not sure how to fix that. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-24 12:13, Dave Plater wrote:
This may be usefull, I just installed 42.2 over 42.1 (Not update) using the import user from old option, with my old home intact. In 42.1 FF49 your page displayed the pull down the same as the center image which I assume is correct. In 42.2 FF50 the pull down matches the "wrong" image. The fonts in 42.2 firefox are also lousy, not sure how to fix that.
Try with a new user, too. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-11-24 12:13, Dave Plater wrote:
This may be usefull, I just installed 42.2 over 42.1 (Not update) using the import user from old option, with my old home intact. In 42.1 FF49 your page displayed the pull down the same as the center image which I assume is correct. In 42.2 FF50 the pull down matches the "wrong" image. The fonts in 42.2 firefox are also lousy, not sure how to fix that.
Try with a new user, too.
Last night I tried with a fresh installation of Leap421 - every update of firefox right up until 49 works fine. I wish I could find firefox 48 for leap422, but it's only a test system, so no big deal. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/22/2016 12:56 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
The bugreport was closed and it was suggested I pursue this upstream. Judging by the responses sofar, not everyone is seeing this problem - sort of suggests it is an openSUSE problem?
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
opensuse version,desktop environment,FF-version,works|doesnt work
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Personally, I see the problem in FF49 and FF50, in KDE on 13.1 and Leap42[12]. I went to: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue again and the list displays correctly. This is on Leap 42.2 with FF 50, which was a clean install to the / partition.
Some system specs: Video card: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Juniper PRO [Radeon HD 6750] radeon kernel graphics driver Rendering backend OpenGL 3.1 GTK2 & GTK3 themes both set to Breeze Fonts in FF have been left on their defaults By the way, font rendering in FF on Leap 42.2 is really awful on a lot of pages, Google being one of them. The fonts are thin/ skinny, tiny, light, and hard to read. I did a comparison on the same machine to a TW live KDE, and the fonts look more readable on TW. What gives? Do I need to change the default font sizes it FF settings? I have 2 other systems I can test this on later if needed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/11/2016 09:40, sdm wrote:
By the way, font rendering in FF on Leap 42.2 is really awful on a lot of pages, Google being one of them. The fonts are thin/ skinny, tiny, light, and hard to read. I did a comparison on the same machine to a TW live KDE, and the fonts look more readable on TW. What gives? Do I need to change the default font sizes it FF settings? See my new thread "Ugly looking fonts in Leap:42.2" It's not just firefox, opera looks the same. Regards Dave P
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sdm wrote:
On 11/22/2016 12:56 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
The bugreport was closed and it was suggested I pursue this upstream. Judging by the responses sofar, not everyone is seeing this problem - sort of suggests it is an openSUSE problem?
Using this test page: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue could you quickly test to see if the select menu gives you three options, all indented to the right and displayed in blue. Then please report to the list (perhaps better to me personally) -
opensuse version,desktop environment,FF-version,works|doesnt work
I have no idea if GTK_THEME is important, but feel free to add any extra information you think is applicable.
Personally, I see the problem in FF49 and FF50, in KDE on 13.1 and Leap42[12]. I went to: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue again and the list displays correctly. This is on Leap 42.2 with FF 50, which was a clean install to the / partition.
Some system specs: Video card: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Juniper PRO [Radeon HD 6750] radeon kernel graphics driver Rendering backend OpenGL 3.1 GTK2 & GTK3 themes both set to Breeze Fonts in FF have been left on their defaults
My test boxes are simple IBM desktop machines, Intel i915 graphics. I don't know which GTK themes are in use, whatever is the default in leap42/KDE. Plus one brand new Lenovo laptop with leap422 - that's where I noticed the issue. On leap421 I can fix the problem by reverting to ff48. That we have different results with the same software on the different hardware does seem to suggest this is an openSUSE issue, not a Mozilla?
I have 2 other systems I can test this on later if needed.
Thanks - does anyone how a suggestion regarding how to proceed with this? Two default installations lead to different results. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-27 10:25, Per Jessen wrote:
sdm wrote:
I went to: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue again and the list displays correctly. This is on Leap 42.2 with FF 50, which was a clean install to the / partition.
I tried on my MSI minipc running 42.2 freshly installed and updated. It fails. I don't know how to display the FF version, it does not have the menu bar (yes, I know how to enable it, but I don't want to do it in that machine). Whatever is the official version for Leap 42.2 Video is Intel: "GPU: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics (Cherryview)" I'm running lxde on it.
My test boxes are simple IBM desktop machines, Intel i915 graphics.
Mine uses also the i915 driver. I see it in lsmod output. I see that "zypper patch" has 15 updates in line, some to Mesa. I can't apply them this moment, I'm using the machine. Will try and report later.
Thanks - does anyone how a suggestion regarding how to proceed with this? Two default installations lead to different results.
Dunno, no idea. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
29.11.2016 06:27, Carlos E. R. пишет:
On 2016-11-27 10:25, Per Jessen wrote:
sdm wrote:
I went to: http://www.jessen.ch/firefox-option-issue again and the list displays correctly. This is on Leap 42.2 with FF 50, which was a clean install to the / partition.
I tried on my MSI minipc running 42.2 freshly installed and updated. It fails.
I don't know how to display the FF version, it does not have the menu bar (yes, I know how to enable it, but I don't want to do it in that machine). Whatever is the official version for Leap 42.2
Just put about: in URL field and press ENTER.
On 2016-11-29 04:38, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
29.11.2016 06:27, Carlos E. R. пишет:
I don't know how to display the FF version, it does not have the menu bar (yes, I know how to enable it, but I don't want to do it in that machine). Whatever is the official version for Leap 42.2
Just put
about:
in URL field and press ENTER.
Thanks. I had tried several "about:someword" concoctions but not yours. It is FF version 50.0 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know how to display the FF version, it does not have the menu bar (yes, I know how to enable it, but I don't want to do it in that machine).
Press "Alt" once, that'll bring up the menu bar temporarily, then click Help->About. This really is a weird problem. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.7°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-29 08:13, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know how to display the FF version, it does not have the menu bar (yes, I know how to enable it, but I don't want to do it in that machine).
Press "Alt" once, that'll bring up the menu bar temporarily, then click Help->About.
Wow! :-))) I like that trick, thanks. Well, it is FF 50.0
This really is a weird problem.
Well, I updated Mesa and the problem is still there. This time I'm using lxqt, though. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-11-29 08:13, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know how to display the FF version, it does not have the menu bar (yes, I know how to enable it, but I don't want to do it in that machine).
Press "Alt" once, that'll bring up the menu bar temporarily, then click Help->About.
Wow! :-)))
I like that trick, thanks.
Well, it is FF 50.0
This really is a weird problem.
Well, I updated Mesa and the problem is still there. This time I'm using lxqt, though.
Well, I've reported it to openSUSE, and there is an open report at mozilla too. On 13.1 I have downgraded to ff48, I don't mind so much about leap42x. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-0.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks - does anyone how a suggestion regarding how to proceed with this? Two default installations lead to different results. There is something interesting I noticed. I did a simple Google search using the Tor browser and did an identical search in FF 50, both on Leap 42.2. Tor, which is uses FF 45.5.0 renders whatever font Google search results are in much more readable than FF 50. The default fonts on certain pages in FF 50 look near unreadable. I have to use the zoom feature frequently. It's more than just not having a 4K Ultra HD monitor, as those same pages look better (when speaking of font rendering) when using FF 50 under the latest Tumbleweed snapshot. I took a screenshot of the same page rendered by FF 50 on TW and in 42.2, and
On 11/27/2016 01:25 AM, Per Jessen wrote: there are differences. It's slight as font rendering in FF 50 on TW is also bad on many pages, but it beats 42.2. Whether it's FF, the version of Plasma, X, or the video card driver or some other factor in the chain, fonts are different and a little better looking on TW. I still want to try the dropdown list with colored text on 42.2 on a couple other machines to see if I can reproduce the rendering error. But thus far, as I've said, on a pretty much vanilla box that has an ATI card using the open source radeon driver, the text is rendered correctly. Maybe this could be down to what type of video card is installed in the machine, and there is a bug in FF that may have something to do with OpenGL. By the way, have you tried turning OpenGL off in FF? FF by default has direct hardware access to the video card, which from a security standpoint is kind of taboo. That is why some users turn this off for security reasons. Regardless, FF has facilities that interop with the video card and driver the user has installed in the machine, so that is where the problem may lie. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
sdm composed on 2016-11-26 23:40 (UTC-0800):
By the way, font rendering in FF on Leap 42.2 is really awful on a lot of pages, Google being one of them. The fonts are thin/ skinny, tiny, light, and hard to read.
As I wrote to Dave in his fresh thread, web pages don't always use the fonts that you have installed on your system. When encountering web pages in Firefox as above described, try toggling this setting in about:config (and reloading the page): gfx.downloadable_fonts.enabled True is the default. When false it's emboldened, and the page will only use fonts actually installed on your PC.
I did a comparison on the same machine to a TW live KDE, and the fonts look more readable on TW. What gives? Do I need to change the default font sizes it FF settings?
Most web "modern" pages do their best to dictate which fonts you see. Your primary control, absent heroic measures, is over how the fonts that are actually used are rendered generally, and this tends to be diddled with from release to release and distro to distro as old font patents expire. Byte code, antialiasing, smoothing, hinting, subpixel rendering, exclude range and such, plus the screen itself, and the application's rendering engine, and personal taste, all play a part in how any given font actually looks to any given individual on any given screen. Anyone who really wants good fonts needs a "high DPI" or "HiDPI" (more accurately, high pixel density) screen, a class that starts at surprisingly little nominal increase above the historical 96 DPI standard. Even 108 DPI is quite a bit of an improvement. Some people find faking the improvement can work well enough, configuring the software to use a higher DPI than the physical pixel density of the screen, so that the software draws using more pixels than the screen itself provides, leaving it up to the screen to interpolate. e.g. force Xorg to use a DPI of 120 or 144 on a screen that is actually in the 96 class, then reconfigure nominal font sizes upward to compensate for the physically smaller fonts being rendered assuming a higher density. A 12px font on a 96 DPI screen is only 9pt physically, comprised of a character box ~6px wide by ~12px tall, a total of only 72px, but drawn to be 9pt physically on a 144DPI screen requires a 9px wide by 18px box, 162px total, 225% more than at 96, allowing much more accurate composition of any given glyph, and thus, considerably more visual appeal. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-17 13:15 (UTC-0500):
Any suggestions anyone? Why should this simple bit of HTML have problems rendering on my Leap422+FF49, but not on others' ? And works fine on Windows too.
I've been fooling with this without putting my finger on it precisely yet, but I have two theories:
1-(secondary T) profile dependence
At least on Leap42x, I think we can rule that one out, they're fairly new installations.
2a-(primary T) fallout bug from change from GTK2 to GTK3 toolkit made recently in FF. Check which toolkit your FF is using via about:buildconfig.
Three boxes - office11 / openSUSE 13.1 / FF49.0.2 / cairo-gtk2 / build 49.0.2-128.1 office34 / Leap421 / FF49.0.2 / cairo-gtk2 / build 49.0.2-36.1 office68 / Leap422 / FF49.0.2 / cairo-gtk2 / build 49.0.2-37.1
The reasons for 2a above is this: A: OK on Windows; B: with either your or my version of the HTML and CSS source, opening any of the main menu choices causes blue text to replace black text for the highlighted menu selection opened in either 49 or 50 but not 45ESR or older.
What results do you get from SeaMonkey 2.40 on openSUSE?
Have just installed it on leap421, with seamonkey 2.40-6.2 it works as expected.
Exactly which build of FF49 are you running on openSUSE?
see above.
Which DE are you using, and which GTK2 and GTK3 themes are installed/selected?
KDE, all vanilla. I have no idea which themes are installed, let me know how to determine it.
When I ran 49 on 42.1 using mozilla.org builds, I got the results I previously reported. Now I have 50, and get the results you reported....
At least I'm not going crazy ... -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
FWIW, my entire collection of screenshots made on account of this thread, some made on 42.1, some on 42.2, one on Debian Stretch: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ : ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK2adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:21 28K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK1adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:16 19K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad2.png 2016-11-18 02:47 24K ff50gtk3-tde-deb9colorsOK-fontsizesBad.png 2016-11-18 01:48 17K ff50gtk3-kde3-OS421colorsOK.png 2016-11-18 01:36 23K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad.png 2016-11-18 01:29 17K ff49blueMainMenuText.png 2016-11-17 16:54 32K perP49.png 2016-11-17 16:50 26K perF49.png 2016-11-17 16:49 24K perF50.png 2016-11-17 16:45 24K perP50.png 2016-11-17 16:44 25K -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
FWIW, my entire collection of screenshots made on account of this thread, some made on 42.1, some on 42.2, one on Debian Stretch:
ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK2adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:21 28K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK1adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:16 19K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad2.png 2016-11-18 02:47 24K
Interesting, I had not noticed a problem in the menus too. That might make for a better report.
perP49.png 2016-11-17 16:50 26K perF49.png 2016-11-17 16:49 24K perF50.png 2016-11-17 16:45 24K perP50.png 2016-11-17 16:44 25K
For these that show the problem, can you add opensuse version and which DE you're using? Tnx. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 07:18 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
FWIW, my entire collection of screenshots made on account of this thread, some made on 42.1, some on 42.2, one on Debian Stretch:
ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK2adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:21 28K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK1adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:16 19K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad2.png 2016-11-18 02:47 24K
Interesting, I had not noticed a problem in the menus too. That might make for a better report.
perP49.png 2016-11-17 16:50 26K perF49.png 2016-11-17 16:49 24K perF50.png 2016-11-17 16:45 24K perP50.png 2016-11-17 16:44 25K
Renamed: perP49os421K3.png perF49os421K3.png perF50os421K3.png perP50os421K3.png
For these that show the problem, can you add opensuse version and which DE you're using? Tnx.
KDE3 config: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/thisSys201611.jpg -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata composed on 2016-11-23 02:36 (UTC-0500):
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 07:18 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
FWIW, my entire collection of screenshots made on account of this thread, some made on 42.1, some on 42.2, one on Debian Stretch:
ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK2adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:21 28K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK1adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:16 19K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad2.png 2016-11-18 02:47 24K
Interesting, I had not noticed a problem in the menus too. That might make for a better report.
perP49.png 2016-11-17 16:50 26K perF49.png 2016-11-17 16:49 24K perF50.png 2016-11-17 16:45 24K perP50.png 2016-11-17 16:44 25K
Renamed: perP49os421K3.png perF49os421K3.png perF50os421K3.png perP50os421K3.png
Another that works as expected, a fresh install of 42.2 with KDE5: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-kde5-os422OK.png $ set | grep GTK GTK_IM_MODULE=cedilla It's definitely in need of a theme fix though. Scrollbars have no arrow buttons. cf. SeaMonkey https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269145
For these that show the problem, can you add opensuse version and which DE you're using? Tnx.
KDE3 config: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/thisSys201611.jpg -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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Felix Miata wrote:
Another that works as expected, a fresh install of 42.2 with KDE5: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-kde5-os422OK.png
I really don't get it - I first noticed the issue on a fresh install Leap422, KDE5. Some places it works, other places it doesn't - it seems to me to dependent on <something> in openSUSE, but what? Here is a 'rpm-qa' listing from my office66 (lenovo laptop) - maybe if we compare to your fresh install? http://files.jessen.ch/office66-rpmqa.txt -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.9°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 11:27 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Another that works as expected, a fresh install of 42.2 with KDE5: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-kde5-os422OK.png
I really don't get it - I first noticed the issue on a fresh install Leap422, KDE5. Some places it works, other places it doesn't - it seems to me to dependent on <something> in openSUSE, but what?
Here is a 'rpm-qa' listing from my office66 (lenovo laptop) - maybe if we compare to your fresh install?
Hard to compare a list that long when not sorted. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 11:27 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Another that works as expected, a fresh install of 42.2 with KDE5: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-kde5-os422OK.png
I really don't get it - I first noticed the issue on a fresh install Leap422, KDE5. Some places it works, other places it doesn't - it seems to me to dependent on <something> in openSUSE, but what?
Here is a 'rpm-qa' listing from my office66 (lenovo laptop) - maybe if we compare to your fresh install?
Hard to compare a list that long when not sorted.
Well, so sort it before you run the diff :-) Anyway, I've sorted it now. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata composed on 2016-11-23 05:17 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata composed on 2016-11-23 02:36 (UTC-0500):
Per Jessen composed on 2016-11-23 07:18 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
FWIW, my entire collection of screenshots made on account of this thread, some made on 42.1, some on 42.2, one on Debian Stretch:
ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK2adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:21 28K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsOK1adwaita.png 2016-11-18 03:16 19K ff50gtk3-tde-OS422colorsBad2.png 2016-11-18 02:47 24K
Interesting, I had not noticed a problem in the menus too. That might make for a better report.
perP49.png 2016-11-17 16:50 26K perF49.png 2016-11-17 16:49 24K perF50.png 2016-11-17 16:45 24K perP50.png 2016-11-17 16:44 25K
Renamed: perP49os421K3.png perF49os421K3.png perF50os421K3.png perP50os421K3.png
Another that works as expected, a fresh install of 42.2 with KDE5: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-kde5-os422OK.png
$ set | grep GTK GTK_IM_MODULE=cedilla
It's definitely in need of a theme fix though. Scrollbars have no arrow buttons. cf. SeaMonkey https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269145
For these that show the problem, can you add opensuse version and which DE you're using? Tnx.
KDE3 config: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/thisSys201611.jpg
Another misbehaver, 42.2, LxQT/IceWM, GTK3 FF50, virgin FF profile, host big31: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff50gtk3-lxqt-os422Bad-big31.png -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-11-17 18:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Hi Felix
on leap422, your code shows the same fault in ff49: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-felix
my example too: http://www.jessen.ch/ff49-0-2-option
I see the issue on openSUSE 13.1 and on Leap422. Have not checked what it looks like on Leap421.
Just testing on my freshly installed laptop (test partition), and as far as I can see, it displays as the photo posted by sdm. I have FF 49.0.2. I have not looked for updates since install 3 days ago. Doing it now. I see one related to Mesa. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (testing openSUSE Leap 42.2, at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
I guess this isn't new, but I've only just today seen it on 13.1 and 42.2 - firefox 49.0.x
FYI, it is a regression - for openSUSE 13.1 and Leap421, the problem can be solved by reverting to MozillaFirefox-48.0.1-30.6. I have updated the bugreport. I think it ought to be fixed for Leap422 too, but I don't know if anyone wants to pursue it. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1011196 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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