I just acquired a UPS (APC model BX1000). Previously, I had an older, smaller UPS (just died) and had no automatic monitoring and shutdown. If I heard the frantic beeps, I'd go perform an orderly shutdown, by hand. The new unit has Windows/Mac-only software, of course, but I'd still like to try the automated aspects, in case power dies while I'm away. Looking through the Administration Guide for 9.3, I don't see any mention of UPS. The stuff that does talk about power seems to be related to laptop power management. My PC is a tower. Do I need anything installed or activated in the system -- I'd ask if it had to be something in the kernel or a module, but I don't know if I'd even be using the words correctly... :-) Or is it just a matter of installing "nut" monitoring software, connecting the UPS monitor lead to my USB port and ... magic happens? Kevin
elefino wrote:
I just acquired a UPS (APC model BX1000). Previously, I had an older, smaller UPS (just died) and had no automatic monitoring and shutdown. If I heard the frantic beeps, I'd go perform an orderly shutdown, by hand. The new unit has Windows/Mac-only software, of course, but I'd still like to try the automated aspects, in case power dies while I'm away.
Looking through the Administration Guide for 9.3, I don't see any mention of UPS. The stuff that does talk about power seems to be related to laptop power management. My PC is a tower.
Do I need anything installed or activated in the system -- I'd ask if it had to be something in the kernel or a module, but I don't know if I'd even be using the words correctly... :-) Or is it just a matter of installing "nut" monitoring software, connecting the UPS monitor lead to my USB port and ... magic happens?
SuSE includes software for monitoring an APC UPS.
elefino wrote:
I just acquired a UPS (APC model BX1000). Previously, I had an older, smaller UPS (just died) and had no automatic monitoring and shutdown. If I heard the frantic beeps, I'd go perform an orderly shutdown, by hand. The new unit has Windows/Mac-only software, of course, but I'd still like to try the automated aspects, in case power dies while I'm away.
Looking through the Administration Guide for 9.3, I don't see any mention of UPS. The stuff that does talk about power seems to be related to laptop power management. My PC is a tower.
Do I need anything installed or activated in the system -- I'd ask if it had to be something in the kernel or a module, but I don't know if I'd even be using the words correctly... :-) Or is it just a matter of installing "nut" monitoring software, connecting the UPS monitor lead to my USB port and ... magic happens?
Kevin
Forgot to mention, you have to install the apcupsd package.
elefino wrote:
I just acquired a UPS (APC model BX1000). Previously, I had an older, smaller UPS (just died) and had no automatic monitoring and shutdown. If I heard the frantic beeps, I'd go perform an orderly shutdown, by hand. The new unit has Windows/Mac-only software, of course, but I'd still like to try the automated aspects, in case power dies while I'm away.
As always, google is your friend - here's one article on the subject: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4347 /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/freetrial - managed anti-spam and anti-virus solution. Sign up for your free 30-day trial now!
Per Jessen wrote:
Thanks, Per! I just note the following bugs in that article: (posted here for benefit of anyone who reads it) %------- The file 4347l3.html is linked as Listing 3. Its first line reads Listing 4. This should be corrected to Listing 3. The file 4347l4.html is linked as Listing 4. It should carry after the word Listing 4, the following text: "Configuring apcupsd as Slave" for clarity's sake. The file 4347l5.html is linked as Listing 5. It contains the contents of "Listing 6. Output of apcassess status". The file 4347l6.html is linked as Listing 6. It contains the contents of "Listing 5. /ect/apcupsd/onbattery". Hence the filenames of the files 4347l5.html and 4347l6.html should be interchanged. -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org
On August Sunday 14 2005 10:14 pm, elefino wrote:
I just acquired a UPS (APC model BX1000). Previously, I had an older, smaller UPS (just died) and had no automatic monitoring and shutdown. If I heard the frantic beeps, I'd go perform an orderly shutdown, by hand. The new unit has Windows/Mac-only software, of course, but I'd still like to try the automated aspects, in case power dies while I'm away.
Looking through the Administration Guide for 9.3, I don't see any mention of UPS. The stuff that does talk about power seems to be related to laptop power management. My PC is a tower.
Do I need anything installed or activated in the system -- I'd ask if it had to be something in the kernel or a module, but I don't know if I'd even be using the words correctly... :-) Or is it just a matter of installing "nut" monitoring software, connecting the UPS monitor lead to my USB port and ... magic happens?
Kevin, IIRC on 9.3 disks there are two programs or groups of programs that allow you to setup "an orderly unattended shutdown" one Program was called "nut", I think .. the other escapes me, however to make the programs work you must connect them to the computer either by serial (?) or it might have been a parallel port connection connector or I *think* but actually don't remember an usb connection. they seem especially geared toward APC , which is just fine w/ me since I have a bunch of them.. but haven't done the hookup or setup since my own box is presently w/o OS.. it's just been built, and we are working the buglets out. :-) the following is quoted from the Install Remove software in Yast2 ***************************************************************************** nut - UPS monitoring software This is a developing project to monitor a large assortment of UPS hardware. Many models have ports on the back to allow other devices to check their status. If it gives basic information about the power and battery status, it can probably be supported without too much difficulty. More advanced features on the higher-end models are also supported to allow tracking of values over time such as temperature and voltage. Network communications are used so that multiple systems can monitor a single physical UPS and shut down together if necessary without any special "sharing hardware" on the UPS itself. Detailed information about supported hardware can be found in /usr/share/doc/packages/nut/README Model information ===== APC Smart-UPS, Back-UPS Pro, Matrix-UPS, Belkin Regulator Pro, Best Power Fortress, Fortress (FOR), Fortress Telecom (FTC), Patriot Pro (PRO), Patriot Pro II (PR2), Engetron Jr, Fenton Technologies PowerPal, PowerOn, PowerPure, Effekta MI/MT/MH models (2502 cable), PowerGuard PG-600, IPT Anzen, MGE Pulsar, MGE Pulsar/Comet/Galaxy, Mustek Electronics, Opti-UPS, Advice Partner/King, PowerCom, Toshiba 1500 series, Trust (KingPro) 425/625, Microdowell BBox, IMV/Victron many models that use the same basic principle to communicate with the computer. See generic-ups.txt in /usr/share/doc/packages/nut for more information, including a list of supported equipment. **************************************************************************************** You really would do well to read the documentation as mentioned above. And poke around your disk(s) to see what the other program is.. I can't find it now, but when I originally saw it they were right close together. I believe that both of the ups solutions had configuration files to make the whole process as customizable as Linux (TM) usually is. anyway it is a place to begin your search ;-) -- j registered linux user #363029
Kevin, IIRC on 9.3 disks there are two programs or groups of programs that allow you to setup "an orderly unattended shutdown" one Program was called "nut", I think .. the other escapes me, however to make the programs work you must connect them to the computer either by serial (?) or it might have been a parallel port connection connector or I *think* but actually don't remember an usb connection. they seem especially geared toward APC , which is just fine w/ me since I have a bunch of them.. but haven't done the hookup or setup since my own box is presently w/o OS.. it's just been built, and we are working the buglets out. :-)
the following is quoted from the Install Remove software in Yast2 ***************************************************************************** nut - UPS monitoring software
You will find more about nut here, http://www.networkupstools.org/ -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia | http://www.lionsq3.asn.au -------------------------------------------------
On Thursday 18 August 2005 00:35, Rob Unsworth wrote:
Kevin, IIRC on 9.3 disks there are two programs or groups of programs that allow you to setup "an orderly unattended shutdown" one Program was called "nut", I think .. the other escapes me, however to make the programs work you must connect them to the computer either by serial (?) or it might have been a parallel port connection connector or I *think* but actually don't remember an usb connection. they seem especially geared toward APC , which is just fine w/ me since I have a bunch of them.. but haven't done the hookup or setup since my own box is presently w/o OS.. it's just been built, and we are working the buglets out. :-)
the following is quoted from the Install Remove software in Yast2 ************************************************************************* **** nut - UPS monitoring software
The other program is apcupsd. Here is Description from rpm: Controls and monitors the status of an APC UPS under Linux. Allows your computer or server to run for a specified length of time on UPS power, and then executes a controlled shutdown in the case of an extended power failure. Find APC on the Internet at: http://www.apc.com "APC" is a popular brand of UPS. I have one and am quite happy with it. The apcupsd program is very good and easy to configure. The USB support is especially nice. I recommend you get the latest version from http://www.apc.com instead of from the SuSE CD/DVD since the latest has some significant fixes. Of course if you have a different brand UPS apcupsd won't work for you. I used to use the nut program and found that it also worked well although it was somewhat confusing to set up. Nut supports many brands of UPS, but its support for the APC brand is not as complete as that of the apcupsd program.
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 06:23 -0500, Robert Paulsen wrote:
"APC" is a popular brand of UPS. I have one and am quite happy with it. The apcupsd program is very good and easy to configure. The USB support is especially nice. I recommend you get the latest version from http://www.apc.com instead of from the SuSE CD/DVD since the latest has some significant fixes.
For Powerchute Personal Ed., I did not see any software for Linux - only
Mac OS X, and Windows :( Which model are you referring to?
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Arun K. Khan
On Thursday 18 August 2005 06:58, Arun K. Khan wrote:
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 06:23 -0500, Robert Paulsen wrote:
"APC" is a popular brand of UPS. I have one and am quite happy with it. The apcupsd program is very good and easy to configure. The USB support is especially nice. I recommend you get the latest version from http://www.apc.com instead of from the SuSE CD/DVD since the latest has some significant fixes.
For Powerchute Personal Ed., I did not see any software for Linux - only Mac OS X, and Windows :( Which model are you referring to?
Oops -- my mistake. The apcupsd software is at http://www.apcupsd.com Bob
On 2005-08-18 13:58 Arun K. Khan wrote:
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 06:23 -0500, Robert Paulsen wrote:
"APC" is a popular brand of UPS. I have one and am quite happy with it. The apcupsd program is very good and easy to configure. The USB support is especially nice. I recommend you get the latest version from http://www.apc.com instead of from the SuSE CD/DVD since the latest has some significant fixes.
For Powerchute Personal Ed., I did not see any software for Linux - only Mac OS X, and Windows :( Which model are you referring to?
Use the PowerChute Business Edition, it's free... http://www.apc.com/tools/download/software_comp.cfm?sw_sku=SFPCBE704&id=125&family=&part_num=&swfam=125&tsk= -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting
On 8/18/05, Anders Norrbring
Use the PowerChute Business Edition, it's free... http://www.apc.com/tools/download/software_comp.cfm?sw_sku=SFPCBE704&id=125&family=&part_num=&swfam=125&tsk=
Weird. (taps head) They're offerring a Business Edition for *free*? Anyway, thanks for the up. ... Hold on. I think there's a catch. The Business Edition works only with the SmartUPS models. (I have only a BackUPS.) Obviously, one has paid more for the SmartUPS so one is allowed to use a more sophisticated software for free... Proof that the BE works only with the SmartUPS models: See: http://www.apc.com/tools/download/index.cfm?dl_method=display_hardware&part_num=SFPCBE704 which is linked to from http://www.apc.com/tools/download/index.cfm under the title PowerChute Business Edition.
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:28:06 +0530, you wrote:
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 06:23 -0500, Robert Paulsen wrote:
"APC" is a popular brand of UPS. I have one and am quite happy with it. The apcupsd program is very good and easy to configure. The USB support is especially nice. I recommend you get the latest version from http://www.apc.com instead of from the SuSE CD/DVD since the latest has some significant fixes.
For Powerchute Personal Ed., I did not see any software for Linux - only Mac OS X, and Windows :( Which model are you referring to?
-- Arun K. Khan
Powerchute is now and has always been complete crap. apcupsd is very good, and I've not looked at nut. Been using apcupsd on a few dozen systems for a year or so with no problems. Mike- -- Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments.
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 08:17:07PM -0400, Michael W Cocke wrote:
Powerchute is now and has always been complete crap.
Agreed. I used it for a while, but it really sucks on Linux.
apcupsd is very good, and I've not looked at nut. Been using apcupsd on a few dozen systems for a year or so with no problems.
Agreed again. It works perfectly under 9.3 with my APC Back-UPS RS1500, and it is also under active development by an extremely helpful guy. Michael -- San Francisco, CA
On 8/18/05, Robert Paulsen
especially nice. I recommend you get the latest version from http://www.apc.com instead of from the SuSE CD/DVD since the latest has some significant fixes.
Which programs are you referring to? As another friend remarked on this thread, finding software for Linux on the APC site is somewhat like pulling teeth. I was able to find only two silly things: Simple Signaling Daemon 10/18/1999 PowerChute plus v4.5.3 for Caldera v2.3 and 2.4 10/28/1999 Oh, and doesn't Caldera belong to SCO and SCO the badguys in the case against Novell? BTW there is a Business Edition right at the top of the page http://www.apc.com/tools/download/index.cfm. Wonder if it's free... (Doubt it.)
Rob Unsworth wrote:
Kevin, IIRC on 9.3 disks there are two programs or groups of programs that allow you to setup "an orderly unattended shutdown" one Program was called "nut", I think .. the other escapes me, however to make the programs work you must connect them to the computer either by serial (?) or it might have been a parallel port connection connector or I *think* but actually don't remember an usb connection. they seem especially geared toward APC , which is just fine w/ me since I have a bunch of them.. but haven't done the hookup or setup since my own box is presently w/o OS.. it's just been built, and we are working the buglets out. :-)
the following is quoted from the Install Remove software in Yast2 ***************************************************************************** nut - UPS monitoring software
You will find more about nut here, http://www.networkupstools.org/
Somewhat OT, but if anyone has a Liebert UPS, their site has Multilink software that runs under Linux and details for building a serial cable. Nice GUI with great details and a pop-up for any out of line reports. You get a standard license for one PC with the download, but before my hard drive crash, they gave me a free license to monitor and shutdown 2 PC's, the second one via the network, so I will have to try them again, the license for 5 boxes is quite steep. Now I have a second Liebert UPS, I could run all 4 standalone 24x7 Linux boxes safely. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
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