Todd Kap wrote:

I have not been able to get Emerald working in OpenSUSE 11.1 at all. No amount of fiddling with packages has resolved the issue. I am not alone. Every one of my co-workers who has installed 11.1 has also not been able to get Emerald working at all.

Add to that the instability of Compiz and it's become almost comical. Just about anything upsets the "balance" and makes Compiz stop working. We've gotten used to forgoing "upgrades" because those "upgrades" damage the balance. Even when Compiz is working, almost anything will cause it to fail. Simply running Skype and then closing it will cause the screen to flash, after that, Compiz doesn't work.

Again, I am not alone. We all have a variety of machines and a variety of video cards and this is an ongoing problem.

Compiz works if you don't do ANYTHING after you get it working. Emerald never has.

Todd, thanks, I've been there. See one of my favorite screenshots from beta testing: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_11.1/compizcrash-blackcube.jpg Think about what happens when you let go of th ctrl+alt keys..... Your problem with emerald on 11.1 is *NOMAD*. If have emerald working fine on 11.1, but you have to completely uninstall compiz: rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep compiz) $(rpm -qa | grep ccsm) fusion-icon The *ONLY* install the compiz packages from (the nomad free zone): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_11.1/ Then start compiz, select emerald and PRAY;-) Seriously, after the third or fourth reinstall of compiz on 11.1, my emerald themes (which I am very fond of having taken hours to create them) -- started working. I would yell and scream, but I understand the tough times and tough directional challenges J., Danny, Kristian, Dennis and Dave have been through over the last few months with compiz and I am encouraged by the recent structure that has been put in place by the team. So I know we have great things coming, I just wish the great things we have had would continue to work. Nomad is the nightmare. I understand that for distributed computing, it is a necessary evil, but the team must figure out how to implement it without killing emerald. My thoughts were always: [[ ! remote_connection ]] && compiz=normal_compiz_with_emerald My immediate problem here is *not only* that emerald isn't work but that *no decorations at all* are working with the same compiz packages I have run for 6 months. That is the _frustrating_ part. And, this is on *10.3* where *nothing* should be breaking anything anymore. For your 11.1 issue, try the dump and reinstall I mentioned above. Now with it working on my 11.1 install, I'm scared to death to update (a/k/a cripple) anything ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David...do you walk on water too? ;-) This totally solved my problems with Emerald and I now have themes working again. Thanks for the excellent advice.

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On 2/10/2009 at 1:31 PM, in message <4991E417.2080100@suddenlinkmail.com>, "David C. Rankin" wrote: Todd Kap wrote: I have not been able to get Emerald working in OpenSUSE 11.1 at all. No amount of fiddling with packages has resolved the issue. I am not alone. Every one of my co-workers who has installed 11.1 has also not been able to get Emerald working at all.

Add to that the instability of Compiz and it's become almost comical. Just about anything upsets the "balance" and makes Compiz stop working. We've gotten used to forgoing "upgrades" because those "upgrades" damage the balance. Even when Compiz is working, almost anything will cause it to fail. Simply running Skype and then closing it will cause the screen to flash, after that, Compiz doesn't work.

Again, I am not alone. We all have a variety of machines and a variety of video cards and this is an ongoing problem.

Compiz works if you don't do ANYTHING after you get it working. Emerald never has.

Todd, thanks,

I've been there. See one of my favorite screenshots from beta testing:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_11.1/compizcrash-blackcube.jpg

Think about what happens when you let go of th ctrl+alt keys.....

Your problem with emerald on 11.1 is *NOMAD*. If have emerald working fine on 11.1, but you have to completely uninstall compiz:

rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep compiz) $(rpm -qa | grep ccsm) fusion-icon

The *ONLY* install the compiz packages from (the nomad free zone):

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_11.1/

Then start compiz, select emerald and PRAY;-) Seriously, after the third or fourth reinstall of compiz on 11.1, my emerald themes (which I am very fond of having taken hours to create them) -- started working.

I would yell and scream, but I understand the tough times and tough directional challenges J., Danny, Kristian, Dennis and Dave have been through over the last few months with compiz and I am encouraged by the recent structure that has been put in place by the team. So I know we have great things coming, I just wish the great things we have had would continue to work. Nomad is the nightmare. I understand that for distributed computing, it is a necessary evil, but the team must figure out how to implement it without killing emerald. My thoughts were always:

[[ ! remote_connection ]] && compiz=normal_compiz_with_emerald

My immediate problem here is *not only* that emerald isn't work but that *no decorations at all* are working with the same compiz packages I have run for 6 months. That is the _frustrating_ part. And, this is on *10.3* where *nothing* should be breaking anything anymore.

For your 11.1 issue, try the dump and reinstall I mentioned above. Now with it working on my 11.1 install, I'm scared to death to update (a/k/a cripple) anything ;-)

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