Stephan Binner wrote:

On Saturday 02 May 2009 06:03:00 Jay Mistry wrote:

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For KDE 3.5.10, what about the repositories mentioned here: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Repositories#KDE_3.5.x ?

KDE:Backports will contain more and more KDE4 apps instead of KDE3 ones over time (if they build against older distro releases).

Bye, Steve

In other words, if you want your kde3 apps to keep working, you may want to remove the backport repo. Thinks like kdiff3, etc. DO NOT WORK or integrate with konqueror if built against the kde4 base :-( And... they know that... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* David C. Rankin [05-06-09 00:17]:

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In other words, if you want your kde3 apps to keep working, you may want to remove the backport repo. Thinks like kdiff3, etc. DO NOT WORK or integrate with konqueror if built against the kde4 base :-(

And... they know that...

And... Now *you* do tooooo.

You *knew* kde3 was going awaaaay.

Yep, but that doesn't mean it has to go quietly;-) Like I've said 100 times before, I can't wait to move to KDE4 just as soon as I can do the same things on kde4 that I can do on kde3 and do it for more than 30 minutes at a time without an hour diversion caused by some dead plasmoid, etc... I think a lot of the things I see on KDE4 look cool as hell, but all the "coolness" in the world isn't worth crap if I can't use it to get work done. Quanta uploads with fish still doesn't work, etc.. etc... etc... And to just sit down and be able to work with out the distracting... "What the hell just happened with that widget??" is worth its weight in gold. But I see good things and it looks like somebody is finally picking up the crayons and starting to focus on stability and functionality. Transitions are always painful, but this model of moving between desktop major versions will go down in history as the way *NOT* to do it. KDE 4.01 in 11.0 --- Give me a break. It still isn't a complete replacement for KDE3 and we are nearly 12 months down the road. Not to mention the black eye it left Linux in general. For years Linux has claimed that it is ready as a desktop and a viable alternative to M$. KDE4 poked one hell-of-a finger in the eye of the community being released in the condition and alpha state that it was. It's still just beta software -- period. Imagine a business committed to Linux to run as a desktop, and then waking up one June morning 2008 to KDE 4.01..... But like I said, I like what I see, once KDE4 is refined and matured, I'm sure it will be great. An it will be even better if the developers can revisit the fundamentals of the KDE philosophy -- efficiency, ease of use, and the most important "no two-key combinations or a key-click combination should ever be required -- when a keystroke or click will do." Something woefully lost on the current setup. P.S. You knew that would strike a chord ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

In <4A01220F.8090900@suddenlinkmail.com>, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Not to mention the black eye it left Linux in general. For years Linux has claimed that it is ready as a desktop and a viable alternative to M$. KDE4 poked one hell-of-a finger in the eye of the community being released in the condition and alpha state that it was. It's still just beta software -- period.

Don't stick that on the KDE team. The release announcements were clear: KDE 4.0 was a developer-only release and KDE 4.1 was an early-adopter release. For those out there that have forgotten how to speak non-techie that's "alpha" and "beta", respectively.

I don't think we are putting that on the KDE team. They are doing a great job by the way. We're putting in on the "rocket scientist" from openSUSE that decided to make it appear as the primary KDE version to install starting with 11.0 by putting the solid KDE 3.x in the "other" menu at install time. This should have been the other way around. I, like many others, will not touch KDE 4.x with a 10' pole until it _is_ ready for prime time. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org