Hey all... I just got 8.1 up and running on my laptop but can't figure out how to get apm (adv. power management - standby and friends) working. It worked out of the box for me on prior SuSE installs with this particular laptop. When I go into the 'Runlevel editor' under Yast to turn on the apm daemon, I get the following: /etc/init.d/apmd start returned 6 (Program is not configured.) Starting apmd not supported by kernel..unused Now I know what the English is telling me here, but what's the course of action I need to take? Is there another module I need to have loaded on boot each time? Or did the install think my computer was a desktop or something? I'm stumped. Any tips would be much obliged. Sincerely, Eric Pierce __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
On Wednesday 16 October 2002 01:04 am, Eric Pierce wrote:
Hey all...
I just got 8.1 up and running on my laptop but can't figure out how to get apm (adv. power management - standby and friends) working. It worked out of the box for me on prior SuSE installs with this particular laptop.
When I go into the 'Runlevel editor' under Yast to turn on the apm daemon, I get the following:
/etc/init.d/apmd start returned 6 (Program is not configured.) Starting apmd not supported by kernel..unused
Now I know what the English is telling me here, but what's the course of action I need to take? Is there another module I need to have loaded on boot each time? Or did the install think my computer was a desktop or something? I'm stumped.
Any tips would be much obliged.
Sincerely, Eric Pierce
I read about this after installing on my own laptop. In the GRUB config file, "/boot/grub/menu.lst", I set "apci=off" instead of on.
Eric Pierce wrote:
Hey all...
I just got 8.1 up and running on my laptop but can't figure out how to get apm (adv. power management - standby and friends) working. It worked out of the box for me on prior SuSE installs with this particular laptop.
http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/81_acpi.html -- ================================================== Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) -------------------------------------------------- "You may think this is the finest pearl But it's only cardboard balls, seamed in glue Overwhelming technique; done through diligence" -------------------------------------------------- -Captain Beefheart, "Best Batch Yet" ==================================================
Hey all...
I just got 8.1 up and running on my laptop but can't figure out how to get apm (adv. power management - standby and friends) working. It worked out of the box for me on prior SuSE installs with this
laptop.
When I go into the 'Runlevel editor' under Yast to turn on the apm daemon, I get the following:
/etc/init.d/apmd start returned 6 (Program is not configured.) Starting apmd not supported by kernel..unused
Now I know what the English is telling me here, but what's the course of action I need to take? Is
Eric Pierce wrote: particular there
another module I need to have loaded on boot each time? Or did the install think my computer was a desktop or something? I'm stumped.
Any tips would be much obliged.
Sincerely, Eric Pierce
I read about this after installing on my own laptop. In the GRUB config file, "/boot/grub/menu.lst", I set "apci=off" instead of on. So you wouldn't have any power management if you do
Michael Sacco wrote: that, am I correct? Does your fan still come on and can you go into 'standby'? Glenn Holmer wrote:
Ok... I did some reading. My 1999 Toshiba laptop tells me it's running 'ACPI BIOS 8.0'. I thought, 'swell' (i.e., "high" version number). And it seems Toshiba (along w/Intel & Microsoft) wrote the ACPI specification, so I thought I was in good hands having a Toshiba lap. I got the acpid services up and running (via Runlevel editor/Yast2). I tried echo 5 > /proc/acpi/sleep This turned off my machine instantly, but I couldn't turn it back on and resume where I was at (5=runlevel 5?). Only the power light would come on when I hit the power switch - *only* the power light. Echo '0-4' did nothing by the way. The reading in '/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' appears to be working, and the fan does turn on at the appropriate 'trip_points'. But my computer hangs when trying to turn off the acpid services (i.e., when shutting down, etc.). I could live w/o 'standby' and friends, but I obviously need fan functionality. However, I can't have my computer locking up everytime I shutdown. On top of all that, I don't remember my fan ever tripping on before I started using the acpid services (...makes sense - no power management facilities engaged). So I'm stuck between a rock unt a hard place. Is there anything stopping me from installing the 8.0 SuSE kernel (k_deflt in my case) side-by-side with the 8.1 kernel and use that to get APM functionality back? Or is recompiling the SuSE kernel w/APM support an option (for someone w/no experience compiling kernels but willing to try)? Stumped. Eric Pierce __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
On Sunday 20 October 2002 17:30, Eric Pierce wrote: Eric Pierce wrote: Hey all... I just got 8.1 up and running on my laptop but can't figure out how to get apm (adv. power management - standby and friends) working. Michael Sacco answered: I read about this after installing on my own laptop. In the GRUB config file, "/boot/grub/menu.lst", I set "apci=off" instead of on. Eric asked again:
So you wouldn't have any power management if you do that, am I correct?
My answer now :) Just do it! Try once with acpi=off (either in grub or just add it when you boot (you know, in the splash screen)). I have a toshiba laptop too. with suse 8.0 it worked perfectly, with 8.1 no apm support. Reading the dmesg output, I got: APM disabled by ACPI... Hmm, so ACPI dares to interfere with my APM? Turn it off! I set ACPI=off, and now my toshiba laptop is APM enabled again. Simple, just try it at the next reboot;) Good luck, D@n L@b@ (Internet Re@dy)
The 02.10.23 at 21:30, Dan Laba wrote:
I have a toshiba laptop too. with suse 8.0 it worked perfectly, with 8.1 no apm support. Reading the dmesg output, I got: APM disabled by ACPI... Hmm, so ACPI dares to interfere with my APM? Turn it off! I set ACPI=off, and now my toshiba laptop is APM enabled again. Simple, just try it at the next reboot;)
Acpi stands for "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface". It is the new version of apm, and more. You can not have both, you have to choose. With acpi you should be able (if they finished the acpi support, which I don't know) to send the computer to sleep pressing a button. Read the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/pm.txt for more info. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Michael Sacco answered:
I have a toshiba laptop too. with suse 8.0 it worked perfectly, with 8.1 no apm support. Reading the dmesg output, I got: APM disabled by ACPI... Hmm, so ACPI dares to interfere with my APM? Turn it off! >I set ACPI=off, and now my toshiba laptop is APM enabled again. Simple, just >try it at the next reboot;)
Dan Laba answered:
Just do it! Try once with acpi=off (either in grub or just add it when you boot (you know, in the splash screen)). I have a toshiba laptop too. with suse 8.0 it worked perfectly, with 8.1 no apm support. Reading the dmesg output, I got: APM disabled by ACPI... Hmm, so ACPI dares to interfere with my APM? Turn it off! I set ACPI=off, and now my toshiba laptop is APM enabled again. Simple, just try it at the next reboot;)
I see I see. I also read another APM post just before yours. They were suggesting "acpi=off" "apm=on" for boot parameters. That worked and then I read your reply above. Thanks a lot for writing. I might remove the "apm=on" from grub's menu.1st file to see if that works like you said. I'm just happy to have apm back. I know it's supposedly "old" school, but it does everything I need: fan, suspend, screen lamp properly goes off per bios request. One last thing... Any advantages to having the apmd up and running as a runlevel service? It's not at the moment and all my apm stuff is working fine. Just curious... Take care. Eric Pierce __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
On Friday 25 October 2002 04:08, Eric Price wrote:
I see I see. I also read another APM post just before yours. They were suggesting "acpi=off" "apm=on" for boot parameters. That worked and then I read your reply above. Thanks a lot for writing. I might remove the "apm=on" from grub's menu.1st file to see if that works like you said. I'm just happy to have apm back. I know it's supposedly "old" school, but it does everything I need: fan, suspend, screen lamp properly goes off per bios request.
One last thing... Any advantages to having the apmd up and running as a runlevel service? It's not at the moment and all my apm stuff is working fine. Just curious...
Take care. Eric Pierce
Hi Eric, the apmd demon it sees is used just to execute commands in response to actions. It's possible to make the computer shutdown itself instead of just dying when the batery is over. But for this to work, somebody must catch the Batery low message and issue apm -s This is apmd. I checked and I don't have it running either. I have something like [kapmd] but i don't know what it means. So, if you want to play, just let the battery drain itself and see if the computer dies or initiates a controled shutdown. Then, activate apmd, be sure to configure it, and let the battery drain again. It seems like you have to configure it in /etc/sysconfig/powermanagement Read also the man page: "man apmd" Cheers, Dan Laba.
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Carlos E. R.
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Eric Pierce
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Glenn Holmer
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Michael Sacco