I was reading, but it seems that the bug was closed by Novell :( from public view. I speak about: [Bug 259718] Sub-pixel antialising does not work when set from KDE Control Center. You know it's pretty difficult to read closed information. Well, the later link: http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17662/OpenSUSE-Hobbled-by-Microsoft-Patents Proves that it has nothing to do with Novell-MS deal. But, can't this patents be invalidated ? I think 3D games (and their fonts) and nVidia had SuperSampling AntiAliasing prior to Microsoft's ClearType. Novell can try to build a case for this... -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:21, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:

argh, the level of stupidity and ignorance from both writers and readers that believes on this articles is becoming very annoying **sigh**.

/me shakes head. Please, it is not stupidity, but it might be ignorance--- and who is to blame for that... one hundred zillion people would like to better understand the M$-Novell deal and instead have received double-talk and insults...

If Novell wanted to educate (rather than lambast and humiliate) they might do well to improve their communication channels... stop swearing... and make sure that all parties understand clearly what is happening and why. If there is ignorance regarding the Novell business relationship with M$ only Novell is to blame for that. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Again, if he wasnt so desperated posting 50 emails per minute, he could actually have read the list and even found this thread, that even has an official explanation from aj and jw, with this link: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-04/msg01040.html And a short PS: If you think its ok to come here and annoy people about the fucking deal (and not the novell suits, and not the novell PR, and not the novell board), but the developers and the users who DID NOT sign any deal, if you think thats an OK behavior, if you think you are not being annoying after all this time, if you think that its a normal and OK position, you can go fuck yourself, and you can go complain about my lack of politesse in fucking hell. Dont ask for people to be polite when you already acted like a prick. Period. You ask to improve communication, clarify the deal? I dont see how this is improving ths situation: "ah, obviously this cleartype thing has to do with ms-novell deal, its their fault ahh ahhh aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh <insert random zealot comment about ms novell deal here>" On 4/11/07, M Harris wrote:

On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:21, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:

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argh, the level of stupidity and ignorance from both writers and readers that believes on this articles is becoming very annoying **sigh**.

/me shakes head. Please, it is not stupidity, but it might be ignorance--- and who is to blame for that... one hundred zillion people would like to better understand the M$-Novell deal and instead have received double-talk and insults...

If Novell wanted to educate (rather than lambast and humiliate) they might do well to improve their communication channels... stop swearing... and make sure that all parties understand clearly what is happening and why. If there is ignorance regarding the Novell business relationship with M$ only Novell is to blame for that.

-- Kind regards,

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On 4/11/07, Pueblo Native wrote:

Okay, here's a short, simple question, no FUD, no spin, nothing: assuming that we want ClearType functionality, is there any way to modify our systems to achieve this result?

http://jamesots.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-build-new-freetype.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

If you didnt have anything to say in this topic, why have you posted anyway? Marcio --- druid top posting just to annoy you On 4/11/07, Peter Van Lone wrote:

On 4/11/07, Druid wrote:

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Again, if he wasnt so desperated posting 50 emails per minute, he could actually have read the list and even found this thread, that even has an official explanation from aj and jw, with this link: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-04/msg01040.html sk for people to be polite when you already acted like a prick. Period.

why do you insist on top-posting, and using foul language?

Besides the fact that you reduce the credibility of your argument, it is just embarrassing. Please stop it.

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On Wednesday 11 April 2007 08:07, Druid wrote:

If you think its ok to come here and annoy people about the **fucking deal** (and not the novell suits, and not the novell PR, and not the novell board), but the developers and the users who DID NOT sign any deal, if you think thats an OK behavior, if you think you are not being annoying after all this time, if you think that its a normal and OK position, you can go fuck yourself, and you can go complain about my lack of politesse in fucking hell.

Dont ask for people to be polite when you already acted like a prick. Your choice of words for the "deal" is vulgar but to the point... some might compare the Novell-M$ intercourse with fornication... maybe we could agree to call it the "fornication deal"?

As an aside, with the financial power that M$ can leverage--- well, size does matter. As for annoyance, I was clearly told that this forum is an open forum (that very few Novell employees even have time for it) and that the hundreds of posts that come here every day are from users who care--- from all over the world. That would include me. My opinions about the fate of Novell, openSUSE, and the free software movement might be of interest to others around the world besides you, who also have a stake in free software and Novell openSUSE. In fact maybe some of them have even stronger opinions than mine... and have even posted them right here. nuf said. As for being a prick, I have an observation that spans back over fifty years. Whenever I meet someone (males) that have an opposing opinion to mine one of two things always occurs: (animal traits) 1) conversation in person When the other person knows that they are in the wrong (either logically, morally, or other) they usually resort to the f word, and then a personal name reference like prick, or other equally intelligent sounding name depending on their age and extent of English vocabulary. If that doesn't work, they usually try to hit me in the mouth... frankly people that build strawmen and knock them down are easier to deal with. :) Needless to say I have spent some discussion time ducking. 2) internet conversation In these situations the other person wants to hit me in the mouth so bad he can taste it... but uff dah, he can't. That's a good thing... less ducking. The down side is that he gets to embarrass himself by publically demonstrating his wanton vocabulary and inability to express himself with coherent English. As for complaining about you in hell... well... I sincerely pray for you that you do not end up there... -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:21, Druid wrote:

If you ahve nothing to say, just shut it and stay quiet

You quoted 67 lines to say that. What's wrong with this picture? -- Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-04-12 07:39, Druid wrote:

On 4/12/07, Glenn Holmer wrote:

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On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:21, Druid wrote:

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If you ahve nothing to say, just shut it and stay quiet

You quoted 67 lines to say that. What's wrong with this picture?

Whats wrong with this picture ios you not understanding that if you dont have any reason to post, you should not post There is a shoe you can put on your foot, to see if it fits.

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* Druid [04-12-07 13:44]: [...]

Take care of your own shoes

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On Thu 12 Apr 2007 04:16, M Harris wrote:

do not end up there...

- if one wrestles with a pig, both will get dirty . . . the pig will enjoy it! have a Good Day -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

... my grandmother used to say, "never try to teach a pig to sing... it will only frustrate you, and it will piss off the pig".

Thanks for the reminder.

Now that he remided you, would you stop sending the offtopic emails on the thread, which is a thing you have been doing from the beginning. Maybe contonue your "old grandma sayings" in private email? It would be so nice, grandma would be proud Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 10 April 2007 23:27, M Harris wrote:

On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:21, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:

...

argh, the level of stupidity and ignorance from both writers and readers that believes on this articles is becoming very annoying **sigh**.

/me shakes head.

Please, it is not stupidity, but it might be ignorance--- and who is to blame for that... one hundred zillion people would like to better understand the M$-Novell deal and instead have received double-talk and insults...

If Novell wanted to educate (rather than lambast and humiliate) they might do well to improve their communication channels... stop swearing... and make sure that all parties understand clearly what is happening and why. If there is ignorance regarding the Novell business relationship with M$ only Novell is to blame for that.

Certainly there is more than enough blame to go around. There has been more FUD on this subject than whether there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq! And it comes from EVERYWHERE! Microsoft! Novell! Mark Shuttleworth! Free Software Purists! Enough already! -- Bob Smits Ph 250-245-2553 Fax 250-245-5531 E-mail bob@rsmits.ca -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:12:53AM +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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let make it more clear...

1. MS did **not** (get this into your head once for all damn it !!) granted a patent license to Novell, but protection to **novell 's customers** ( gee.. is **that** hard to understand ?? I wonder..)

Protection from a what? I understand this as protection from not suing SUSE for MS patents, which equals patent license grant.

Protection for both Novell and MS *CUSTOMERS* but NOT the companies themselves. MS can still sue us over anything, and vice-versa. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org