On Wednesday 18 April 2001 2:35:P, Morsal Roudbay wrote:
I certainly agree. But what SuSE need to change is their attitude! Why suck money from the poor? They should make money on the companies, not us! As soon as I heard that SuSE changed attitude and stopped releasing the ISO, I was determined to stop using it. Now I use the FREE RH 7.1 and it doesn't have as much apps as SuSE included but it's a very robust and well working distribution in my opinion. It also has some nice features that SuSE lacks.
[snip] Every new release from all companies have new "goodies." SuSE will do the same for 7.2. The business climate is changing world wide...NO exceptions. What WILL eventually happen are some mergers of some distros. It's inevitable, because there are too many presently that AREN'T making any money, and the rest aren't making enough profit over and above expenses. If we want to continue to enjoy high quality software at REASONABLE prices, then these and other changes MUST happen. IF they do not, we all will be at the mercy of MickySoft, like it not, that IS reality. Ideology doesn't cut it in the marketplace...NOT anymore. Does it mean the end of open source...NO, but there soon will NOT be any more "free beer." Fred -- -- ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm@cupserv.org
On Wednesday 18 April 2001 21:05, you wrote:
On Wednesday 18 April 2001 2:35:P, Morsal Roudbay wrote:
I certainly agree. But what SuSE need to change is their attitude! Why suck money from the poor? They should make money on the companies, not us! As soon as I heard that SuSE changed attitude and stopped releasing the ISO, I was determined to stop using it. Now I use the FREE RH 7.1 and it doesn't have as much apps as SuSE included but it's a very robust and well working distribution in my opinion. It also has some nice features that SuSE lacks.
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Every new release from all companies have new "goodies." SuSE will do the same for 7.2. The business climate is changing world wide...NO
Well, almost. I've got everything available on the RH distro except their 'TUX' web server. But I don't really need that.. ;-)
exceptions. What WILL eventually happen are some mergers of some distros. It's inevitable, because there are too many presently that AREN'T making any money, and the rest aren't making enough profit over and above expenses. If we want to continue to enjoy high quality software at REASONABLE prices, then these and other changes MUST happen. IF they do not, we all will be at the mercy of MickySoft, like it not, that IS reality. Ideology doesn't cut it in the marketplace...NOT anymore. Does it mean the end of open source...NO, but there soon will NOT be any more "free beer."
I'm afraid that you are right. And for those folks that can't accept it, they will go on to something else. A few of the smaller companies might stay with it, but not with the numbers that are out there right now. So many of them don't stand a chance. Case in point is Corel. Relatively large company. But couldn't make it with a linux distribution. Storm is another one that recently declared bankruptcy. I just checked their site, and although it is still up, it doesn't appear to have been updated since December 2000. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 7.1, Kernel 2.4.2 KDE2.1.1 For a great linux portal try http://www.freezer-burn.org
On Wednesday 18 April 2001 4:08:P, Mike wrote: [snip]
Every new release from all companies have new "goodies." SuSE will do the same for 7.2. The business climate is changing world wide...NO
Well, almost. I've got everything available on the RH distro except their 'TUX' web server. But I don't really need that.. ;-)
I wouldn't either.
exceptions. What WILL eventually happen are some mergers of some distros. It's inevitable, because there are too many presently that AREN'T making any money, and the rest aren't making enough profit over and above expenses. If we want to continue to enjoy high quality software at REASONABLE prices, then these and other changes MUST happen. IF they do not, we all will be at the mercy of MickySoft, like it not, that IS reality. Ideology doesn't cut it in the marketplace...NOT anymore. Does it mean the end of open source...NO, but there soon will NOT be any more "free beer."
I'm afraid that you are right. And for those folks that can't accept it, they will go on to something else.
There will be some who will remain in denial...for awhile. :)
A few of the smaller companies might stay with it, but not with the numbers that are out there right now. So many of them don't stand a chance. Case in point is Corel. Relatively large company. But couldn't make it with a linux distribution. Storm is another one that recently declared bankruptcy. I just checked their site, and although it is still up, it doesn't appear to have been updated since December 2000.
By years end........... Fred -- -- ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm@cupserv.org
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