This is true, but my SuSE-6.1 box has the netbios name exported, as does my SuSE-6.3 box. The config files are pretty much identical. Works fine on 6.3, not on 6.1. There must be a problem with Samba on 6.1, or a problem I put in my hand rolled kernel on the 6.1 box. I thought it was a bit odd, but it seems someone else has the same problem.
it's the netbios export that makes it visible - MS networking relies on NetBios (aka netBEUI) regardless of the TCP/IP transport. Without a valid netbios name export there's nothing for Network Neighborhood to see. Doing a "net use" to connect to a samba box keeps the machine alive in the browser.
On Monday, March 13, 2000 8:25 AM, Derek Fountain [SMTP:fountai@hursley.ibm.com] wrote:
I have exactly the same problem with one of my servers. One machine is 6.1 based with a hand rolled 2.2.12 kernel, and that doesn't show up in Network Neighbourhood. The other is 6.3 based, with the stock SuSE kernel and that does show up. Both use the same config file (with the odd very slight tweak such as netbios name, etc).
I can still map a network drive from the 6.1 machine by naming it explictly, and that's all I needed, so I stopped worrying about it. Still a bit odd though.
The really annoying thing is that I saw the solution to this some time ago, thought "Oh, that's the problem!", then forgot both what the soultion was and where I saw it! I seem to remember that you needed something compiled into the kernel.
James Smith wrote:
I'm trying to set up samba on Suse 6.1 to enanble file/print sharing with my Windows based PC. I have set up all the shares as necessary and set all permissions and any administrative options correctly for my set up according to their suggestions. However, My Windows machine will not find my Linux machine in Network neighbourhood, or by using find computer. I was able to set up my printer, however, and get it to print out. Any suggestions?
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Derek Fountain wrote:
This is true, but my SuSE-6.1 box has the netbios name exported, as does my SuSE-6.3 box. The config files are pretty much identical. Works fine on 6.3, not on 6.1. There must be a problem with Samba on 6.1, or a problem I put in my hand rolled kernel on the 6.1 box. I thought it was a bit odd, but it seems someone else has the same problem.
Have you checked to see if the dummy network device is active with 'ifconfig'? SuSE may well have turned off dummy network device by default in SuSE 6.3, but it certainly wasn't off by default in 6.1. See my post earlier for details...
it's the netbios export that makes it visible - MS networking relies on NetBios (aka netBEUI) regardless of the TCP/IP transport. Without a valid netbios name export there's nothing for Network Neighborhood to see. Doing a "net use" to connect to a samba box keeps the machine alive in the browser.
On Monday, March 13, 2000 8:25 AM, Derek Fountain [SMTP:fountai@hursley.ibm.com] wrote:
I have exactly the same problem with one of my servers. One machine is 6.1 based with a hand rolled 2.2.12 kernel, and that doesn't show up in Network Neighbourhood. The other is 6.3 based, with the stock SuSE kernel and that does show up. Both use the same config file (with the odd very slight tweak such as netbios name, etc).
I can still map a network drive from the 6.1 machine by naming it explictly, and that's all I needed, so I stopped worrying about it. Still a bit odd though.
The really annoying thing is that I saw the solution to this some time ago, thought "Oh, that's the problem!", then forgot both what the soultion was and where I saw it! I seem to remember that you needed something compiled into the kernel.
James Smith wrote:
I'm trying to set up samba on Suse 6.1 to enanble file/print sharing with my Windows based PC. I have set up all the shares as necessary and set all permissions and any administrative options correctly for my set up according to their suggestions. However, My Windows machine will not find my Linux machine in Network neighbourhood, or by using find computer. I was able to set up my printer, however, and get it to print out. Any suggestions?
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I have the same problem with S.u.S.E. 6.1 and Samba. I can't get Windows '95 to recognise it in Network Neighborhood, nor can I map a drive to it. I can, however find my Linux box if I search for it. Maybe there's a port disabled by default that I have to enable in the inetd? I think the problem may also be that my Windows '95 just isn't trying to log onto the network. In the Samba book, it says to enable the password by double-clicking on "passwords" in the control panel, then click on the 3rd tab "Change Passwords". When I double-click on "Passwords" in the control panel, the "Change Passwords" tab is missing! I have managed to hunt and find it elsewhere, but it doesn't seem to work at all. Any suggesstions would be appreciated. Also maybe an example of how to use the "map network drive" option. It doesn't seem to work as well because the reply is "not logged in". Mark On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Chris Reeves wrote: | Derek Fountain wrote: | > | > This is true, but my SuSE-6.1 box has the netbios name | > exported, as does my SuSE-6.3 box. The config files are | > pretty much identical. Works fine on 6.3, not on 6.1. There | > must be a problem with Samba on 6.1, or a problem I put in | > my hand rolled kernel on the 6.1 box. I thought it was a bit | > odd, but it seems someone else has the same problem. | | Have you checked to see if the dummy network device is active with 'ifconfig'? | SuSE may well have turned off dummy network device by default in SuSE 6.3, but | it certainly wasn't off by default in 6.1. See my post earlier for details... | | > > it's the netbios export that makes it visible - MS networking relies on | > > NetBios (aka netBEUI) regardless of the TCP/IP transport. Without a valid | > > netbios name export there's nothing for Network Neighborhood to see. Doing | > > a "net use" to connect to a samba box keeps the machine alive in the | > > browser. | > > | > > On Monday, March 13, 2000 8:25 AM, Derek Fountain | > > [SMTP:fountai@hursley.ibm.com] wrote: | > > > I have exactly the same problem with one of my servers. One | > > > machine is 6.1 based with a hand rolled 2.2.12 kernel, and | > > > that doesn't show up in Network Neighbourhood. The other is | > > > 6.3 based, with the stock SuSE kernel and that does show up. | > > > Both use the same config file (with the odd very slight | > > > tweak such as netbios name, etc). | > > > | > > > I can still map a network drive from the 6.1 machine by | > > > naming it explictly, and that's all I needed, so I stopped | > > > worrying about it. Still a bit odd though. | > > > | > > > The really annoying thing is that I saw the solution to this | > > > some time ago, thought "Oh, that's the problem!", then | > > > forgot both what the soultion was and where I saw it! I seem | > > > to remember that you needed something compiled into the | > > > kernel. | > > > | > > > | > > > > James Smith wrote: | > > > > | > > > > I'm trying to set up samba on Suse 6.1 to enanble | > > > > file/print sharing with my Windows based PC. I have set | > > > > up all the shares as necessary and set all permissions and | > > > > any administrative options correctly for my set up | > > > > according to their suggestions. However, My Windows | > > > > machine will not find my Linux machine in Network | > > > > neighbourhood, or by using find computer. I was able to | > > > > set up my printer, however, and get it to print out. Any | > > > > suggestions? | | Hope that helps, | Chris | -- | __ _ | -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 | _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | | -- | To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ | -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
This may help some people I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it is required to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into /start/autorun, "net use * //server/share" this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next available driveletter (on the win machine) nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce itself on the network. nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount shares onto the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount //server/share /mnt/share_mount" you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list bye, alex -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Robert, I have Samba working. My problem is getting Windows '95 to log onto the network as the default user. I have tried typing "net start" in the command line, but it tells me that the network can't be started from the dos command line. I have also tried adding "net start" in my autoexec.bat file. It says that it has executed successfully, but then again after boot is complete I am not logged into the network. I have tweakui installed and have checked the "automatically log into the network" - even tried it with using plain text - but this doesn't seem to work either. I am not prompted for a username/password unless I start the system, then shut it down with "log on as a different user". I am then asked for the login password and it does log on to the network, Samba works like it should, but I always have to restart and log on as a different user in order to use it. Mark On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Robert Alexander Stragies wrote: | | This may help some people | | I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it is required | to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. | from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice | is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to | log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. | In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into | /start/autorun, "net use * //server/share" | this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next | available driveletter (on the win machine) | | nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce | itself on the network. | | nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in | /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i | don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount shares onto | the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount //server/share /mnt/share_mount" | you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter | | hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list | | bye, alex | | | -- | To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ | -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
hello marc, i think i can recall that you can change this behavior by setting something else as the event for network logon there should be something like a choice for "primary network logon" under the properties for the network, so try the other option. I also seem to recall that you have to enable file and print access to YOUR machine, to even get the ability to log on to a smbnet. Of course, this does not mean that you have to actually share something I used to have this problem, and fiddling those above mentioned settings, and using TweakUI, solved the problem for me. Ok, this was a while ago, and i cannot right now verify this. but if your problem persists, i can probably dig up from the bottom of my head my exact steps to resolve that. of course, we'll be outta luck , if this problem can be caused by several reasons, of which i only had one... and you have some other i hope, this proves to be helpful for you. greets, alex (btw. robert is my first name, and i stopped using it 10 years ago, please call me alex) On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Mark B Withers wrote:
Robert,
I have Samba working. My problem is getting Windows '95 to log onto the network as the default user. I have tried typing "net start" in the command line, but it tells me that the network can't be started from the dos command line. I have also tried adding "net start" in my autoexec.bat file. It says that it has executed successfully, but then again after boot is complete I am not logged into the network.
I have tweakui installed and have checked the "automatically log into the network" - even tried it with using plain text - but this doesn't seem to work either. I am not prompted for a username/password unless I start the system, then shut it down with "log on as a different user". I am then asked for the login password and it does log on to the network, Samba works like it should, but I always have to restart and log on as a different user in order to use it.
Mark
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Robert Alexander Stragies wrote:
| | This may help some people | | I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it is required | to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. | from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice | is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to | log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. | In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into | /start/autorun, "net use * //server/share" | this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next | available driveletter (on the win machine) | | nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce | itself on the network. | | nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in | /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i | don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount shares onto | the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount //server/share /mnt/share_mount" | you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter | | hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list | | bye, alex
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is the "client for microsoft networks" enabled on your '95 machine? ryan --signatures are overrated--
-----Original Message----- From: Mark B Withers [mailto:gooober@one.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 8:21 AM To: Robert Alexander Stragies Cc: Chris Reeves; Derek Fountain; SuSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] Samba
Robert,
I have Samba working. My problem is getting Windows '95 to log onto the network as the default user. I have tried typing "net start" in the command line, but it tells me that the network can't be started from the dos command line. I have also tried adding "net start" in my autoexec.bat file. It says that it has executed successfully, but then again after boot is complete I am not logged into the network.
I have tweakui installed and have checked the "automatically log into the network" - even tried it with using plain text - but this doesn't seem to work either. I am not prompted for a username/password unless I start the system, then shut it down with "log on as a different user". I am then asked for the login password and it does log on to the network, Samba works like it should, but I always have to restart and log on as a different user in order to use it.
Mark
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Robert Alexander Stragies wrote:
| | This may help some people | | I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it is required | to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. | from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice | is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to | log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. | In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into | /start/autorun, "net use * //server/share" | this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next | available driveletter (on the win machine) | | nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce | itself on the network. | | nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in | /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i | don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount shares onto | the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount //server/share /mnt/share_mount" | you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter | | hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list | | bye, alex | | | -- | To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ |
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Yep! I got it to work! Had to create a user profile with the same login as one of my Linux box accounts on the Windows '95 machine. For some reason it wouldn't log onto the "microsoft network" as the default user. It only involved copying over all my address books, emails, etc and also setting tweakui to log on automatically at startup on the "network" tab. Thanks to everyone for helping me with my problem! You really came through for me. Mark On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Ryan Yagatich wrote: | | | is the "client for microsoft networks" enabled on your '95 machine? | | | ryan | | --signatures are overrated-- | | | | >-----Original Message----- | >From: Mark B Withers [mailto:gooober@one.net] | >Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 8:21 AM | >To: Robert Alexander Stragies | >Cc: Chris Reeves; Derek Fountain; SuSE Mailing List | >Subject: Re: [SLE] Samba | > | > | >Robert, | > | >I have Samba working. My problem is getting Windows '95 to log onto | >the network as the default user. I have tried typing "net start" in | >the command line, but it tells me that the network can't be started | >from the dos command line. I have also tried adding "net start" in my | >autoexec.bat file. It says that it has executed successfully, but then | >again after boot is complete I am not logged into the network. | > | >I have tweakui installed and have checked the "automatically log into | >the network" - even tried it with using plain text - but this doesn't | >seem to work either. I am not prompted for a username/password unless | >I start the system, then shut it down with "log on as a different | >user". I am then asked for the login password and it does log on to | >the network, Samba works like it should, but I always have to restart | >and log on as a different user in order to use it. | > | >Mark | > | >On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Robert Alexander Stragies wrote: | > | >| | >| This may help some people | >| | >| I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it | >is required | >| to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. | >| from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice | >| is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to | >| log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. | >| In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into | >| /start/autorun, "net use * //server/share" | >| this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next | >| available driveletter (on the win machine) | >| | >| nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce | >| itself on the network. | >| | >| nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in | >| /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i | >| don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount | >shares onto | >| the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount //server/share /mnt/share_mount" | >| you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter | >| | >| hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list | >| | >| bye, alex | >| | >| | >| -- | >| To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | >| For additional commands send e-mail to | >suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | >| Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ | >| | > | > | >-- | >To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | >For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | > | >Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ | > | -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
As one of the people who was having problems can I just point out that I was starting nmbd, and the netbios name was being correctly exported (easily checked using nmblookup "netbios_name", and smbmount) For some reason, it was not being exported across eth0. Removing dummy allowed it to be exported where it wasn't before. The correct usage of netbios names and nmbd has been suggested before, but this was not the problem.
This may help some people
I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it is required to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into /start/autorun, "net use * file://server/share" this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next available driveletter (on the win machine)
nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce itself on the network.
nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount shares onto the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount file://server/share
/mnt/share_mount"
you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter
hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list
bye, alex
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I always specify the interface in smb.conf, even though it's supposed to select the default one. Try that instead of removing dummy. On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, James Smith wrote:
As one of the people who was having problems can I just point out that I was starting nmbd, and the netbios name was being correctly exported (easily checked using nmblookup "netbios_name", and smbmount) For some reason, it was not being exported across eth0. Removing dummy allowed it to be exported where it wasn't before. The correct usage of netbios names and nmbd has been suggested before, but this was not the problem.
This may help some people
I think alot of you people are not starting the nmbd demon, it is required to make the linuxmachine announce itself to the network. from my experience, samba will work fine, no matter if the dummydevice is enabled, if you are correctly logged on to your win (use TweakUI to log on automatically), and do manually specify the location of the share. In case, you dont know the win syntax, try, in a batch file, placed into /start/autorun, "net use * file://server/share" this will automatically mount the smbshare on your linuxbox as the next available driveletter (on the win machine)
nmbd only reads out some options from /etc/smb.conf and then announce itself on the network.
nmbd is automatically started, if you set <start smb> to yes in /etc/rc.config, but the line starting it may have to be uncommented (i don't remember). Btw, this is also the correct place for mount shares onto the linuxbox. The syntax is "smbmount file://server/share
/mnt/share_mount"
you may have to specify the ipaddress with the -I x.x.x.x parameter
hope this reduces the number of sambaquesis on the list
bye, alex
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Chris Reeves wrote:
Have you checked to see if the dummy network device is active with 'ifconfig'? SuSE may well have turned off dummy network device by default in SuSE 6.3, but it certainly wasn't off by default in 6.1. See my post earlier for details...
Hope that helps, Chris
Chris- Why do you want to have the dummy device disabled? I have it enabled in my rc.config: # # setup dummy network device for IPADDR_0? this is useful for non permanent # network connections (e.g. SLIP, PPP). Some software needs a connection # to FQHOSTNAME (e.g. plp). (yes, no) SETUPDUMMYDEV="yes" and SAMBA works fine. Please enlighten me. Bob F EMail FBob@wt.net A Truly Wise Man Never Plays Leapfrog With A Unicorn... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Chris Reeves wrote:
Have you checked to see if the dummy network device is active with
'ifconfig'?
SuSE may well have turned off dummy network device by default in SuSE 6.3, but it certainly wasn't off by default in 6.1. See my post earlier for
Hope that helps, Chris
Chris-
Why do you want to have the dummy device disabled? I have it enabled in my rc.config: # # setup dummy network device for IPADDR_0? this is useful for non
details... permanent
# network connections (e.g. SLIP, PPP). Some software needs a connection # to FQHOSTNAME (e.g. plp). (yes, no) SETUPDUMMYDEV="yes"
and SAMBA works fine. Please enlighten me.
Bob F
I cannot really comment, on why there should be a difference, except that to say, with SETUPDUMMYDEV="yes" SAMBA didn't work and with it disabled it did work. Could be something else thats causing the problem, however as dummy is not really needed, particularly in a network the size of mine, turning it off is a very easy solution!
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