Poor colours when printing.

James Knott

18 Jan 2005 18 Jan '05

21:55

I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a document from my notebook computer, running SuSE 9.2, via cups to my desktop system (SuSE 9.0). The colours were all washed out. I then printed the same document, from the notebook, running XP and the colours were fine. When I print from my desktop system, the colours are again washed out. In all cases the application was Mozilla, but it the problem occurs with printing from any app in Linux. Given that XP had no problem printing the colours, I think I can rule out both my printer (Canon S600) and cups as the source of the problem. Since the problem is not confined to Mozilla, I doubt that it's the cause. Is there any way to adjust the colour saturation? I use kprinter on both Linux systems. tnx jk

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Patrick Shanahan

19 Jan 19 Jan

00:12

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* James Knott [01-18-05 16:57]:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a

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Doug McGarrett

00:15

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At 07:12 PM 1/18/2005 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* James Knott [01-18-05 16:57]:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a

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-- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

Patrick Shanahan

01:59

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* Doug McGarrett [01-18-05 19:17]:

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It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

He probably spells aluminium incorrectly, also.... -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

blabla

05:10

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Doug McGarrett wrote:

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It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

I say tomato, you say tomato (Louis Armstrong) But I vote for colour, anything else is an eyesore. That's my two pounds' worth :-) Ingo PS.: Did you check the cricket against SA?

Chris

20:59

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Looks like the poms might be capable of giving me a reason to install a tv card on my linux box, by providing a bit of competition for the aussies. Chris -----Original Message----- From: blabla [mailto:blabla1@cwazy.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2005 4:10 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Poor colours when printing. Doug McGarrett wrote:

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It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

I say tomato, you say tomato (Louis Armstrong) But I vote for colour, anything else is an eyesore. That's my two pounds' worth :-) Ingo PS.: Did you check the cricket against SA? -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Peter Nikolic

22:25

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On Wednesday 19 January 2005 20:59, Chris wrote:

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Looks like the poms might be capable of giving me a reason to install a tv card on my linux box, by providing a bit of competition for the aussies. Chris -----Original Message----- From: blabla [mailto:blabla1@cwazy.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2005 4:10 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Poor colours when printing.

Doug McGarrett wrote:

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It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

I say tomato, you say tomato (Louis Armstrong)

But I vote for colour, anything else is an eyesore.

That's my two pounds' worth :-)

Ingo

PS.: Did you check the cricket against SA?

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G'Day look livley were gettin to give out a right good thrashing ..:-).. Pete. -- certain illegal email addresses over the pond can go take a runnin jump into the deepest darkest hole he can find and the go spank the monkey for all he is worth . If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------

scsijon

20 Jan 20 Jan

07:51

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At 11:15 AM 19/01/2005, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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At 07:12 PM 1/18/2005 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* James Knott [01-18-05 16:57]:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a

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-- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

colour is spelt to the "queens english", used internationally. It's you yanks that play with spelling, and those that follow you that's the problem. :-)) :-)) :-)) no flames please scsijon

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Danny Sauer

15:17

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Doug wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Poor colours when printing.' on Tue, Jan 18 at 18:16:

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* James Knott [01-18-05 16:57]:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a [...] It's obvious that the printer is taking umbrage at the fact that he can't spell "color". Ah, well. . . .

Doh! The printer's probably not set for metric colour. --Danny, whose printers are all running on the Imperial standard

Catimimi

19 Jan 19 Jan

22:05

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James Knott a écrit :

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a document from my notebook computer, running SuSE 9.2, via cups to my desktop system (SuSE 9.0). The colours were all washed out. I then printed the same document, from the notebook, running XP and the colours were fine. When I print from my desktop system, the colours are again washed out. In all cases the application was Mozilla, but it the problem occurs with printing from any app in Linux. Given that XP had no problem printing the colours, I think I can rule out both my printer (Canon S600) and cups as the source of the problem. Since the problem is not confined to Mozilla, I doubt that it's the cause. Is there any way to adjust the colour saturation? I use kprinter on both Linux systems.

tnx jk

hello, I'd the same problem with my canon i550 and i965 printers. You can easily fix that in the printer configuration with Yast. In the filter entries choose : Yellow level : 2 instaed of one Magenta level : 2 Cyan level : 2 Density : 2 (You can also play with the contrast level !) and everything becomes OK At the present time I don't run linux so perhaps don't I tell the exact names. If you have difficulties, let me know. Michel.

James Knott

20 Jan 20 Jan

01:31

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Catimimi wrote:

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I'd the same problem with my canon i550 and i965 printers. You can easily fix that in the printer configuration with Yast. In the filter entries choose : Yellow level : 2 instaed of one Magenta level : 2 Cyan level : 2 Density : 2

(You can also play with the contrast level !)

and everything becomes OK

At the present time I don't run linux so perhaps don't I tell the exact names. If you have difficulties, let me know.

I don't see any settings like that..

Catimimi

07:06

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James Knott a écrit :

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Catimimi wrote:

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I'd the same problem with my canon i550 and i965 printers. You can easily fix that in the printer configuration with Yast. In the filter entries choose : Yellow level : 2 instaed of one Magenta level : 2 Cyan level : 2 Density : 2

(You can also play with the contrast level !)

and everything becomes OK

At the present time I don't run linux so perhaps don't I tell the exact names. If you have difficulties, let me know.

I don't see any settings like that..

Hi, Sorry if I don't use the exact words, but I translate from French SuSE 9.2 Start : YaST2 -> Hardware -> Printer a new window appears, wait for ready then choose : change (at the bottom of the window) Click on your Canon printer then on "modify" in the new window, click on the fifth line " printing filter" Then the light comes, you are able to change your color parameters. Michel

James Knott

14:22

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Catimimi wrote:

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James Knott a écrit :

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I don't see any settings like that..

Hi,

Sorry if I don't use the exact words, but I translate from French SuSE 9.2

Start : YaST2 -> Hardware -> Printer

a new window appears, wait for ready then choose : change (at the bottom of the window)

Click on your Canon printer then on "modify"

in the new window, click on the fifth line " printing filter"

Then the light comes, you are able to change your color parameters.

I have already been there, and there is nothing anywhere that I can find, about colour settings.

Catimimi

21:03

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James Knott a écrit :

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Catimimi wrote:

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James Knott a écrit :

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I don't see any settings like that..

Hi,

Sorry if I don't use the exact words, but I translate from French SuSE 9.2

Start : YaST2 -> Hardware -> Printer

a new window appears, wait for ready then choose : change (at the bottom of the window)

Click on your Canon printer then on "modify"

in the new window, click on the fifth line " printing filter"

Then the light comes, you are able to change your color parameters.

I have already been there, and there is nothing anywhere that I can find, about colour settings.

Hello, I've understood your problem which is the following : - if you look at the filter parameters for the S600 you see that SuSE thinks that it is a B&W printer !! - if you look at the Canon site, it is a colour printer so the SuSe configuration is wrong. I suggest and I'm sure that it'll work that with YaST2 you change your printer type to Canon S800, it is the model I use for my printers !! After that you'll find the filter entries I spoke of earlier. Good luck and let me know. Michel.

Carlos E. R.

19 Jan 19 Jan

23:24

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The Tuesday 2005-01-18 at 16:55 -0500, James Knott wrote:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a document from my notebook computer, running SuSE 9.2, via cups to my desktop system (SuSE 9.0). The colours were all washed out. I then printed the same document, from the notebook, running XP and the colours were fine. When I print from my desktop system, the colours are again washed out. In all cases the application was Mozilla, but it the problem occurs with printing from any app in Linux. Given that XP had no problem printing the colours, I think I can rule out both my printer (Canon S600) and cups as the source of the problem. Since the problem is not confined to Mozilla, I doubt that it's the cause. Is there any way to adjust the colour saturation? I use kprinter on both Linux systems.

I suspect that all canon printers in linux are treated that way; or the gimp driver does. Browse to "http://localhost:631/", go to printers, select your printer, configure printers, and there you should see the settings you want - depending on the driver used. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

James Knott

20 Jan 20 Jan

13:54

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Tuesday 2005-01-18 at 16:55 -0500, James Knott wrote:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a document from my notebook computer, running SuSE 9.2, via cups to my desktop system (SuSE 9.0). The colours were all washed out. I then printed the same document, from the notebook, running XP and the colours were fine. When I print from my desktop system, the colours are again washed out. In all cases the application was Mozilla, but it the problem occurs with printing from any app in Linux. Given that XP had no problem printing the colours, I think I can rule out both my printer (Canon S600) and cups as the source of the problem. Since the problem is not confined to Mozilla, I doubt that it's the cause. Is there any way to adjust the colour saturation? I use kprinter on both Linux systems.

I suspect that all canon printers in linux are treated that way; or the gimp driver does. Browse to "http://localhost:631/", go to printers, select your printer, configure printers, and there you should see the settings you want - depending on the driver used.

I've searched all through there, as well as Yast and Control Center and haven't found any such settings.

Carlos E. R.

21 Jan 21 Jan

01:09

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The Thursday 2005-01-20 at 08:54 -0500, James Knott wrote:

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I suspect that all canon printers in linux are treated that way; or the gimp driver does. Browse to "http://localhost:631/", go to printers, select your printer, configure printers, and there you should see the settings you want - depending on the driver used.

I've searched all through there, as well as Yast and Control Center and haven't found any such settings.

It depends on the driver, probably. For my printer, a BJC4000 (gimp driver): [IMG] Description: BjC4000, gimp-print Location: local Printer State: idle, accepting jobs. Device URI: parallel:/dev/lp0 Print Test Page Stop Printer Reject Jobs Modify Printer Configure Printer Delete Printer I see this under "configure": Admin on localhost - CUPS v1.1.20 Common UNIX Printing System Admin Choose default options for lpg. Adjustment Contrast Level: [1.00] Cyan Level: [1.00] Density: [1.82] Magenta Level: [1.00] stpBrightness: [1.00] stpGamma: [1.60] stpSaturation: [1.0] Yellow Level: [1.00] [ Continue ] General Ink Type: [Four Color Standard_______] Input Slot: [Auto Sheet Feeder___] Media Type: [Plain Paper_______________] Page Size: [A4_______________________] Printout Mode: [High Quality_______________] [ Continue ] Printout Mode Dither Algorithm: [Controlled by 'Printout Mode'] Ghostscript Resolution: [Controlled by 'Printout Mode'] Image Type: [Continuous-tone photographs_______________] Output Type: [Controlled by 'Printout Mode'] Quality: [360x360 DPI__________________] [ Continue ] Banners Starting Banner: [none________] Ending Banner: [none________] [ Continue ] Well, the first few are the ones I was refering to. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

James Knott

01:58

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Thursday 2005-01-20 at 08:54 -0500, James Knott wrote:

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I suspect that all canon printers in linux are treated that way; or the gimp driver does. Browse to "http://localhost:631/", go to printers, select your printer, configure printers, and there you should see the settings you want - depending on the driver used.

I've searched all through there, as well as Yast and Control Center and haven't found any such settings.

It depends on the driver, probably. For my printer, a BJC4000 (gimp driver):

Someone else suggested using the S800 drivers, which seem to do the trick. tnx

Danny Sauer

20 Jan 20 Jan

15:17

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James wrote regarding '[SLE] Poor colours when printing.' on Tue, Jan 18 at 15:56:

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I've noticed that when printing colour documents, that the colours tend to be very weak (poor saturation). As an experiment, I printed a document from my notebook computer, running SuSE 9.2, via cups to my desktop system (SuSE 9.0). The colours were all washed out. I then printed the same document, from the notebook, running XP and the colours were fine. When I print from my desktop system, the colours are again washed out. In all cases the application was Mozilla, but it the problem occurs with printing from any app in Linux. Given that XP had no problem printing the colours, I think I can rule out both my printer (Canon S600) and cups as the source of the problem. Since the problem is not confined to Mozilla, I doubt that it's the cause. Is there any way to adjust the colour saturation? I use kprinter on both Linux systems.

Look in the ppd - /etc/cups/ppd/yourprintername.ppd - and see if there's anything in there labeled saturation or similar. You can probably also configure stuff from onf of the printer configuration dialogs, like the printers in KDE's control panel, or the gnome printer thingie (gnome-cups-manager?). --Danny, who just hand-edits the ppd, due to some problem with GUI configuration :)

James Knott

17:52

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Danny Sauer wrote:

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Look in the ppd - /etc/cups/ppd/yourprintername.ppd - and see if there's anything in there labeled saturation or similar. You can probably also configure stuff from onf of the printer configuration dialogs, like the printers in KDE's control panel, or the gnome printer thingie (gnome-cups-manager?).

I've done that, but didn't see any relevant lines. I also have not been able to find any GUI method, in CUPS, Yast or Control Center.

Danny Sauer

18:11

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James wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Poor colours when printing.' on Thu, Jan 20 at 11:52:

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Danny Sauer wrote:

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Look in the ppd - /etc/cups/ppd/yourprintername.ppd - and see if there's anything in there labeled saturation or similar. You can probably also configure stuff from onf of the printer configuration dialogs, like the printers in KDE's control panel, or the gnome printer thingie (gnome-cups-manager?).

I've done that, but didn't see any relevant lines. I also have not been able to find any GUI method, in CUPS, Yast or Control Center.

On all of my printers, there's some "image options" (generally under an "advanced" tab) wherin you can select the saturation level for images. I'm not sure what that'll do with text, but you were wondering about images, right? Try out xpp or gtklp, and see if they give you that option. If so, then you can print through one of those. I think there's a KDE equivilent too - kprinter, perhaps? --Danny, possibly helping a little

James Knott

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Danny, who obviously has too much time on his hands, wrote:

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On all of my printers, there's some "image options" (generally under an "advanced" tab) wherin you can select the saturation level for images. I'm not sure what that'll do with text, but you were wondering about images, right?

I've never been able to find any such settings, in CUPS, Kprinter, Yast or Control Center.

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Try out xpp or gtklp, and see if they give you that option. If so, then you can print through one of those. I think there's a KDE equivilent too - kprinter, perhaps?

I was able to adjust "Gamma" in xpp, which appears to adjust colour levels. I just have to play with it a bit, to get things right. tnx

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