[opensuse] What happened to "more"?
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much? Marc... -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed,
ISTR using that, but it was a _long_ time ago. How about 'less' ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (2.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2019 17.05, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much? It works here. At least on XFCE. What version?
cer@Telcontar:~> which more /usr/bin/more cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R.
On 02/02/2019 19.53, James Knott wrote:
On 02/02/2019 01:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more".
More or less. ;-)
Don't forget the dog.
but that is a different cat. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2019 11:41 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 02/02/2019 19.53, James Knott wrote:
On 02/02/2019 01:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more". More or less. ;-)
Don't forget the dog.
I worked hard to train my fingers to do more, now I will have to un-train my fingers to do less. Will do my up most best! ;-) Marc.. -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Marc, et al -- ...and then Marc Chamberlin said... % % I worked hard to train my fingers to do more, now I will have to % un-train my fingers to do less. Will do my up most best! ;-) Marc.. Well, you could also just alias it :-) % % -- % Linux Counter HANW :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R.
On 02/02/2019 17.05, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much? It works here. At least on XFCE. What version?
cer@Telcontar:~> which more /usr/bin/more cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~>
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more".
"more" works as I remember and expect here as to the utility of more and less, have a look at "most" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2019 20.40, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [02-02-19 13:06]:
On 02/02/2019 17.05, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more".
"more" works as I remember and expect here
as to the utility of more and less, have a look at "most"
The man page looks promissing. It responds to page up/dn, but not to end/start. I find it confusing. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 02/02/2019 10:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What version?
cer@Telcontar:~> which more /usr/bin/more cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~>
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more".
Hi Carlos and thanks for replying... OK here is the output you are asking for - marc@bigbang:~> which more /usr/bin/more marc@bigbang:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64 Looks to me like it is the same as you have... Marc.. -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Looks to me like it is the same as you have... Marc..
Checked it here. One of the differences between more and less is that more exits when reaching the end of the file. So if the file is shorter than what fits on the screen you'll never be prompted for a 'space'. If it does work differently for you - maybe some console settings differ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2019 20.55, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 02/02/2019 10:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What version?
cer@Telcontar:~> which more /usr/bin/more cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~>
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more".
Hi Carlos and thanks for replying... OK here is the output you are asking for -
marc@bigbang:~> which more /usr/bin/more marc@bigbang:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64
Looks to me like it is the same as you have... Marc..
Yes, it is. Then it is not an update. Unless it is something in "konsole", but I also tried in it. konsole-17.12.3-lp150.1.3.x86_64 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 02/02/2019 01:26 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 02/02/2019 20.55, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 02/02/2019 10:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What version?
cer@Telcontar:~> which more /usr/bin/more cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~>
However, I never use "more", I use "less", which is more powerful than "more". Hi Carlos and thanks for replying... OK here is the output you are asking for -
marc@bigbang:~> which more /usr/bin/more marc@bigbang:~> rpm -qf /usr/bin/more util-linux-2.31.1-lp150.7.6.1.x86_64
Looks to me like it is the same as you have... Marc.. Yes, it is. Then it is not an update. Unless it is something in "konsole", but I also tried in it.
konsole-17.12.3-lp150.1.3.x86_64
Hmmm Me thinks it must be some sort of environment variable or setting then... Dunno how to go about debugging and tracking it down then... Sigh.. Marc... -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
02.02.2019 19:05, Marc Chamberlin пишет:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much?
Show type -p more printf '%s\n' "$MORE" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2019 10:21 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
02.02.2019 19:05, Marc Chamberlin пишет:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much?
Show
type -p more printf '%s\n' "$MORE"
Thanks Andrei and here is the output, hths Marc. marc@bigbang:~> type -p more /usr/bin/more marc@bigbang:~> printf '%s\n' "$MORE" -sl -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
02.02.2019 22:41, Marc Chamberlin пишет:
On 02/02/2019 10:21 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
02.02.2019 19:05, Marc Chamberlin пишет:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much?
Show
type -p more printf '%s\n' "$MORE"
Thanks Andrei and here is the output, hths Marc.
marc@bigbang:~> type -p more /usr/bin/more marc@bigbang:~> printf '%s\n' "$MORE" -sl
That default options. And does it happen using different terminal (xterm, linux text console)? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2019 11:05 AM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much?
Works fine here. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zaterdag 2 februari 2019 17:05:31 CET schreef Marc Chamberlin:
OpenSuse Leap 15.0 with the KDE/Plasma desktop - The behavior of the command more has changed, it use to print out the number of lines to fill a konsole screen and then pause waiting for the user to hit the space bar and then continue to print out another konsole screen full of lines. Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! What happened to more and can I fix it to go back to being the good ol more command that I loved so much?
Marc... Don't see that here. I do use more, but the behaviour ( in yakuake ) is like before, no changes.
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/2/19 5:05 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits!
That's normal behaviour if your file is short enough to fit onto a single screen without scrolling, I think. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/06/2019 08:54 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 2/2/19 5:05 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Now it just prints on a single konsole screen full of lines and exits! That's normal behaviour if your file is short enough to fit onto a single screen without scrolling, I think.
Hi Liam, thanks for your input, and no I was applying more to long files such as the logfiles and observed the failure I reported.. No matter really, I am slowing re-training my fingers to do less instead... Damn hard habit to break though, I so often type more without even thinking/realizing what I am doing! ;-) Marc.. -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi Liam, thanks for your input, and no I was applying more to long files such as the logfiles and observed the failure I reported.. No matter really, I am slowing re-training my fingers to do less instead... Damn hard habit to break though, I so often type more without even thinking/realizing what I am doing! ;-) Marc..
That (and because I'm a lazy slow typer anyhow) I've aliased the pager to 'm' since more than 20 years. I just changed the alias definition when less became more popular :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/6/19 7:09 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi Liam, thanks for your input, and no I was applying more to long files such as the logfiles and observed the failure I reported.. No matter really, I am slowing re-training my fingers to do less instead... Damn hard habit to break though, I so often type more without even thinking/realizing what I am doing! ;-)
Oh, I see. Sorry for the noise, then. I do sometimes still type "more" by mistake when I really should use "less" -- it's a hard habit to break. Possibly removing/renaming the old ``more'' binary and replacing it with a symlink to ``less'' might be a better move, and should result in at least some apps using ``less'' for scrolling output. The ability to go backwards is a killer feature for me. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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