can no longer connect :(

Stephen W

18 Jan 2004 18 Jan '04

17:54

I have had to go to M$ to send this Email :( I get a connection, but when I go to use Firebird or Konq I get error messages: "error occured while loading ..." Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Stephen The last log file reads: SuSE Meta pppd (smpppd-ifcfg), Version 1.00 on linux. We are disconnected. trying to connect to smpppd connect to smpppd We are disconnected. We are connecting. pppd: Plugin passwordfd.so loaded. pppd: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.42 pppd: --> Initializing modem. pppd: --> Sending: ATZ pppd: ATZ pppd: OK pppd: --> Sending: AT Q0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 pppd: AT Q0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 pppd: OK pppd: --> Sending: ATM1 pppd: ATM1 pppd: OK pppd: --> Modem initialized. pppd: --> Sending: ATDT8062220 pppd: --> Waiting for carrier. pppd: ATDT8062220 pppd: CONNECT 53333/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS pppd: --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. pppd: UQKT2 ras13.floca.alerondial.net pppd: login: pppd: --> Looks like a login prompt. pppd: --> Sending: 585954@highstream.net pppd: 585954@highstream.net pppd: password: pppd: --> Looks like a password prompt. pppd: --> Sending: (password) pppd: Connected pppd: Exiting shell, and starting PPP session. pppd: ~[7f]}#@!}!}!} }8}!}$}%\}"}&} }*} } }%}&nxo}/}'}"}(}"DU~ pppd: --> PPP negotiation detected. pppd: Serial connection established. pppd: Using interface ppp0 pppd: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem pppd: local IP address 206.148.124.180 pppd: remote IP address 206.249.61.13 pppd: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 2043), status = 0x0 We are connected. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

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Martin

18 Jan 18 Jan

18:27

New subject: [SLE] can no longer connect :(

After you dial in, try to verify your routing table (netstat -rn), then try to ping your default gateway and any IP in the Internet you know of. If this is ok, try to ping some web server to verify your DNS is ok. You may want to use 'dig wrote:

...

I have had to go to M$ to send this Email :(

I get a connection, but when I go to use Firebird or Konq I get error messages:

"error occured while loading ..."

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Stephen

The last log file reads:

SuSE Meta pppd (smpppd-ifcfg), Version 1.00 on linux. We are disconnected. trying to connect to smpppd connect to smpppd We are disconnected. We are connecting. pppd: Plugin passwordfd.so loaded. pppd: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.42 pppd: --> Initializing modem. pppd: --> Sending: ATZ pppd: ATZ pppd: OK pppd: --> Sending: AT Q0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 pppd: AT Q0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 pppd: OK pppd: --> Sending: ATM1 pppd: ATM1 pppd: OK pppd: --> Modem initialized. pppd: --> Sending: ATDT8062220 pppd: --> Waiting for carrier. pppd: ATDT8062220 pppd: CONNECT 53333/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS pppd: --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. pppd: UQKT2 ras13.floca.alerondial.net pppd: login: pppd: --> Looks like a login prompt. pppd: --> Sending: 585954@highstream.net pppd: 585954@highstream.net pppd: password: pppd: --> Looks like a password prompt. pppd: --> Sending: (password) pppd: Connected pppd: Exiting shell, and starting PPP session. pppd: ~[7f]}#@!}!}!} }8}!}$}%\}"}&} }*} } }%}&nxo}/}'}"}(}"DU~ pppd: --> PPP negotiation detected. pppd: Serial connection established. pppd: Using interface ppp0 pppd: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem pppd: local IP address 206.148.124.180 pppd: remote IP address 206.249.61.13 pppd: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 2043), status = 0x0 We are connected.

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Mads Martin Joergensen

18:39

New subject: [SLE] can no longer connect :(

* Martin [Jan 18. 2004 19:27]:

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After you dial in, try to verify your routing table (netstat -rn), then try to ping your default gateway and any IP in the Internet you know of. If this is ok, try to ping some web server to verify your DNS is ok. You may want to use 'dig

$ ip route list Might be a better way, since the 'ip' command is superior. BTW; ckm@postini.com says hi :) -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

Stephen W

22:11

New subject: Ping - netstat - dig results to cannot connect

Well guys, Not sure what I have learned ... but here are the results of ping, etc Got results to these ... but still cannot get anything using the browsers (Konq or Firebird) :( stephen linux:/home/winstephen # ip route list 206.249.61.13 dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src 206.148.125.12 default via 206.249.61.13 dev ppp0 linux:/home/winstephen # dig 206.249.61.13 ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> 206.249.61.13 ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached linux:/home/winstephen # ping 206.249.61.13 PING 206.249.61.13 (206.249.61.13) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=1 ttl=100 time=161 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=2 ttl=100 time=149 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=3 ttl=100 time=139 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=4 ttl=100 time=139 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=5 ttl=100 time=129 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=6 ttl=100 time=139 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=7 ttl=100 time=129 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=8 ttl=100 time=129 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=9 ttl=100 time=129 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=10 ttl=100 time=139 ms 64 bytes from 206.249.61.13: icmp_seq=11 ttl=100 time=129 ms ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable --- Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

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After you dial in, try to verify your routing

* Martin [Jan 18. 2004 19:27]: table

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(netstat -rn), then try to ping your default gateway and any IP in the Internet you know of. If this is ok, try to ping some web server to verify your DNS is ok. You may want to use 'dig
$ ip route list

Might be a better way, since the 'ip' command is superior.

BTW; ckm@postini.com says hi :)

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Mads Martin Joergensen

23:48

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to cannot connect

* Stephen W [Jan 18. 2004 23:11]:

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Well guys,

Not sure what I have learned ... but here are the results of ping, etc

Got results to these ... but still cannot get anything using the browsers (Konq or Firebird) :(

Can you show us the contents of /etc/resolv.conf while connected? -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

Stephen W

19 Jan 19 Jan

01:17

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

Well, here is the info. /etc/resolv.conf does not exist There is a file (dated yesterday 1/17/04, 7:33 AM - about the time things went awry) named resolv.conf in /etc/ppp its contents are thus: nameserver 205.198.6.62 nameserver 205.137.48.5 There is a shell file (really buried in dire4ctories and sub-directories and I did not note the line) named resolv.conf but when I try to run it I am told there is no program called resolv.conf -- how did I lose that and how do I get it back? Stephen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

Martin

05:41

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

Not sure why you have it in /etc/ppp, but I'd try to move it to /etc assuming those are your DNS servers. Martin --- Stephen W wrote:

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Well, here is the info.

/etc/resolv.conf does not exist

There is a file (dated yesterday 1/17/04, 7:33 AM - about the time things went awry) named resolv.conf in /etc/ppp its contents are thus:

nameserver 205.198.6.62 nameserver 205.137.48.5

There is a shell file (really buried in dire4ctories and sub-directories and I did not note the line) named resolv.conf but when I try to run it I am told there is no program called resolv.conf -- how did I lose that and how do I get it back?

Stephen

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Carlos E. R.

20 Jan 20 Jan

00:29

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

The Sunday 2004-01-18 at 21:41 -0800, Martin wrote:

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Not sure why you have it in /etc/ppp, but I'd try to move it to /etc assuming those are your DNS servers.

Absolutely normal: when you connect and have set up automatic dns change, a backup is made of the previous resolv file. Investigate /etc/ppp/ip-up and /sbin/modify_resolvconf if you want to know how. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Martin

05:18

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

Absolutely normal is what? That file just disapeared from /etc? I don't think so but perhaps normal would be to get a backup copy to /etc/ppp which I would agree with. Martin --- "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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The Sunday 2004-01-18 at 21:41 -0800, Martin wrote:

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Not sure why you have it in /etc/ppp, but I'd try to move it to /etc assuming those are your DNS servers.

Absolutely normal: when you connect and have set up automatic dns change, a backup is made of the previous resolv file.

Investigate /etc/ppp/ip-up and /sbin/modify_resolvconf if you want to know how.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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Mads Martin Joergensen

11:12

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

* Martin [Jan 20. 2004 06:18]:

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Absolutely normal is what? That file just disapeared from /etc? I don't think so but perhaps normal would be to get a backup copy to /etc/ppp which I would agree with.

But what you saw was not default behaviour. Something went wrong in the middle. What he meant is that it is absolutely normal behaviour that ppp users get a modified resolv.conf for when they're online, and the old one is saved for restoring when offline again. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

Carlos E. R.

14:17

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

The Monday 2004-01-19 at 21:18 -0800, Martin wrote:

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Absolutely normal is what? That file just disapeared from /etc? I don't think so but perhaps normal would be to get a backup copy to /etc/ppp which I would agree with.

It is absolutely normal for a 'resolv.conf' file to exist in '/etc/ppp', because the script 'ip-up' makes a backup copy of /etc/resolv.conf, saving it in /etc/ppp/, before rewriting it. As to deleting the file, that behavior was commented here: |Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:51:55 -0800 (PST) |From: K V |Subject: [SLE] kppp missing /etc/resolv.conf - solved (was: question about |file permissions) The thing is as follows: when you connect using a modem, the pppd daemon is started (doesn't matter what program you use to connect, kinternet, wvdial, or whatever). This daemon calls '/etc/ppp/ip-up' script when connected - so far, this is common to all distros. This script (wrote by SuSE) reads the dns servers supplied by your ISP during connection negotiation (that is a M$ addition: the parameters area called $MS_DNS1 and $MS_DNS2). With that data, it calls script '/sbin/modify_resolvconf', who rewrites file '/etc/resolv.conf', creating a backup first in '/etc/ppp'. Note: if you want to do add stuff to that script, don't: use '/etc/ppp/ip-up.local' instead. When the connection goes down, script '/etc/ppp/ip-down' runs, and put things back where they were. Problem: if the original 'resolv.conf' file was empty, it gets simply deleted, because it is useless. So, as I said, everything normal and documented :-p :-) That's the reason I disabled it, and use my own dns server as cache, speeding it up. Now, as to the original poster question: he has to know if the resolv file exists while connected, not before or after - if it doesn't, his supplier is not automatically supplying him with dns information, or he hasn't set up his configuration properly. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Patrick Greenwell

16:51

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

When you use PPP the current resolv.conf gets moved. If the process dies unexepectedly you sometimes can get in a state where the original has been moved, but it hasn't been replaced by the information provided as part of your dial-up session. Martin wrote:

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Absolutely normal is what? That file just disapeared from /etc? I don't think so but perhaps normal would be to get a backup copy to /etc/ppp which I would agree with.

Martin

--- "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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The Sunday 2004-01-18 at 21:41 -0800, Martin wrote:

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Not sure why you have it in /etc/ppp, but I'd try

to

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move it to /etc assuming those are your DNS

servers.

Absolutely normal: when you connect and have set up automatic dns change, a backup is made of the previous resolv file.

Investigate /etc/ppp/ip-up and /sbin/modify_resolvconf if you want to know how.

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Stephen W

19:50

New subject: [SLE] Thank you: Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

Thank you - being as new to linux as I am it is all still Greek to me ... I am wondering how I would have ever learned about resolv.conf. I cannot find any reference to it in my docs. Stephen --- Patrick Greenwell wrote:

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When you use PPP the current resolv.conf gets moved. If the process dies unexepectedly you sometimes can get in a state where the original has been moved, but it hasn't been replaced by the information provided as part of your dial-up session.

Martin wrote:

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Absolutely normal is what? That file just disapeared from /etc? I don't think so but perhaps normal would be to get a backup copy to /etc/ppp which I would agree with.

Martin

--- "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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The Sunday 2004-01-18 at 21:41 -0800, Martin wrote:

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Not sure why you have it in /etc/ppp, but I'd try

to

...
move it to /etc assuming those are your DNS

servers.

Absolutely normal: when you connect and have set up automatic dns change, a backup is made of the previous resolv file.

Investigate /etc/ppp/ip-up and /sbin/modify_resolvconf if you want to know how.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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Patrick Greenwell

20:33

New subject: [SLE] Thank you: Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

Have you tried man resolv.conf? Stephen W wrote:

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Thank you - being as new to linux as I am it is all still Greek to me ... I am wondering how I would have ever learned about resolv.conf. I cannot find any reference to it in my docs.

Carlos E. R.

23:29

New subject: [SLE] Thank you: Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

The Tuesday 2004-01-20 at 11:50 -0800, Stephen W wrote:

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Thank you - being as new to linux as I am it is all still Greek to me ... I am wondering how I would have ever learned about resolv.conf. I cannot find any reference to it in my docs.

Patrick Greenwell

21 Jan 21 Jan

04:25

New subject: [SLE] Thank you: Ping - netstat - dig results to "cannot connect"

And for those folks that forget how to spell 'apropos': man -k :-) Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Tuesday 2004-01-20 at 11:50 -0800, Stephen W wrote:

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Thank you - being as new to linux as I am it is all still Greek to me ... I am wondering how I would have ever learned about resolv.conf. I cannot find any reference to it in my docs.

Because you didn't look hard enough :-)

|cer@nimrodel:~> apropos resolv.conf |modify_resolvconf (8) - modify /etc/resolv.conf |resolv.conf (5) - resolver configuration file

Stephen W

19:33

New subject: use on man for resolv.conf

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|cer@nimrodel:~> apropos resolv.conf |modify_resolvconf (8) - modify /etc/resolv.conf |resolv.conf (5) - resolver configuration file

How do I find out more information on these? When I did man -k resolve.conf that is what I got. How do I get more information than being told: "resolver configuration" I figured it had something to do with resolving a configuration (DUH) but until Carlos told me to look in Admin Guide (which starts on about pg 271) I could not learn any more... Is it in the man? ===== Stephen W Sarasota, FL "A merry heart doeth good like a medicine ..." Proverbs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

Togan Muftuoglu

19:41

New subject: [SLE] use on man for resolv.conf

* Stephen W; on 21 Jan, 2004 wrote:

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did man -k resolve.conf

k parameter stands for keyword to learn about the other options do man man

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that is what I got.

How do I get more information than being told:

"resolver configuration"

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Carlos E. R.

22 Jan 22 Jan

00:37

New subject: [SLE] use on man for resolv.conf

The Wednesday 2004-01-21 at 11:33 -0800, Stephen W wrote:

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How do I find out more information on these? When I did man -k resolve.conf

that is what I got.

|fido@nimrodel:~> man -k resolve.conf |resolve.conf: nothing appropriate. |fido@nimrodel:~> man -k resolv.conf |modify_resolvconf (8) - modify /etc/resolv.conf |resolv.conf (5) - resolver configuration file |fido@nimrodel:~> It is resolv.conf, not resolve. You know, computers are not very misgiving on orthography :-p

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How do I get more information than being told:

"resolver configuration"

Notice that when I issue the command "apropos resolv" the response is a list of man pages for "further reading". The number in parenthesis is to discriminate when there are several pages with the same name - for example, (1) refers to the program and (2) to the library function. Further reading: "man man".

...

I figured it had something to do with resolving a configuration (DUH) but until Carlos told me to look in Admin Guide (which starts on about pg 271) I could not learn any more... Is it in the man?

Yes, it is. On man resolv.conf, for starters. Er... the man pages I find arid, difficult to understand: they assume you already know a fair bit. So, the first thing is reading a good book - you know, the kind made with paper properly smeared with ink - so that you can read it a bit before going to sleep: I guarantee that either you forget about sleeping pills, or the sun will smile on you while still reading. :-p Seriously, these things are better read on books than on man pages. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Martin

19 Jan 19 Jan

01:00

New subject: [SLE] Ping - netstat - dig results to cannot connect

No wonder, I guess, your DNS is not responding ...do you have any DNS configured in /etc/resolv.conf and if so, can you ping it? Here is how your dig output should look like. Martin ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> 206.249.61.13 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 55649 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;206.249.61.13. IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: . 10417 IN SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2004011800 1800 900 604800 86400 ;; Query time: 48 msec ;; SERVER: 216.148.227.68#53(216.148.227.68) ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 18 16:30:31 2004 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 106 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

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