Someone's written a pretty full-looking how-to for installing ATI drivers on Linux PCs. SuSE is mentioned, though alas not explicitly covered. http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people. :) Fish
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 13:36, Mark wrote:
http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html
I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people.
Thanks, this certainly is appreciated! Hans
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:05:31 +0200
H du Plooy
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 13:36, Mark wrote:
http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html
I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people.
Thanks, this certainly is appreciated!
Yes, VMT Terence
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 13:36, Mark wrote:
http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people.
Very nice indeed! :) B.t.w: does SuSE 9.0 support these drivers direct from the box like they support the nvidia drivers or do you still have to download and install them yourself? Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 11:29 am, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 13:36, Mark wrote:
http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI. html I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people.
Very nice indeed! :) B.t.w: does SuSE 9.0 support these drivers direct from the box like they support the nvidia drivers or do you still have to download and install them yourself?
Regards,
Pieter Hulshoff =============
Peter, I didn't have to use the ATI drivers as a separate install with SuSE 9.0 on my ATI 9200 radeon! Everything setup and worked nicely. I am guessing it is all built in already or the version of XFree86 fully supports it. Either way, 2D & 3D are quite functional for me without installing the ATI drivers separately! I also noticed that the fglrx module is included in the kernel. Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 17:57, BandiPat wrote:
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 11:29 am, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI. html I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people. Very nice indeed! :) B.t.w: does SuSE 9.0 support these drivers
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 13:36, Mark wrote: direct from the box like they support the nvidia drivers or do you still have to download and install them yourself? I didn't have to use the ATI drivers as a separate install with SuSE 9.0 on my ATI 9200 radeon! Everything setup and worked nicely. I am guessing it is all built in already or the version of XFree86 fully supports it. Either way, 2D & 3D are quite functional for me without installing the ATI drivers separately! I also noticed that the fglrx module is included in the kernel.
Hmm, sounds like I may have to consider buying SuSE 9.0 after all then. :) I'm quite happy with my 8.2 setup, but the ATI drivers are still not functional for me. Now if I could just get my AIW part to work as well for my PAL cable connection.... Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Wed December 17 2003 12:03 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote: <snip>
Hmm, sounds like I may have to consider buying SuSE 9.0 after all then. :) I'm quite happy with my 8.2 setup, but the ATI drivers are still not functional for me. Now if I could just get my AIW part to work as well for my PAL cable connection....
Regards,
Pieter Hulshoff
You might consider upgrading to a new kernel... <from www.kernel.org> The radeon modules are part of the kernel. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 12/17/03 12:13 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Beyond each corner new directions lie in wait." - Stanislaw Lec
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 18:13, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wed December 17 2003 12:03 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
Hmm, sounds like I may have to consider buying SuSE 9.0 after all then. :) I'm quite happy with my 8.2 setup, but the ATI drivers are still not functional for me. Now if I could just get my AIW part to work as well for my PAL cable connection.... You might consider upgrading to a new kernel... <from www.kernel.org> The radeon modules are part of the kernel.
Hmm, there's a thought. Which kernel would you recommend? From which version did the radeon modules become a part of the kernel? Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Wed December 17 2003 01:11 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 18:13, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wed December 17 2003 12:03 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
Hmm, sounds like I may have to consider buying SuSE 9.0 after all then.
:) I'm quite happy with my 8.2 setup, but the ATI drivers are still not
functional for me. Now if I could just get my AIW part to work as well for my PAL cable connection....
You might consider upgrading to a new kernel... <from www.kernel.org> The radeon modules are part of the kernel.
Hmm, there's a thought. Which kernel would you recommend? From which version did the radeon modules become a part of the kernel?
Well I can say this: 1) I believe that my ATI 9000 worked on 9.0 as it came out of the box. And I believe that the modules used were normal kernel modules but I can't attest to that. BTW, at some point I tried to install the ATI modules on 9.0 and it worked, but after a few days things went strange and I ended up re-installing. 2) I ran 2.4.22 for awhile and I think that worked with vanilla stuff. 3) Am running 2.4.23 right now and it works just fine. So I would go with the latest. Are you running xfs at all? That takes some patches but it's really easy to do. (a 10 second job)
Regards,
Pieter Hulshoff
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 12/17/03 13:33 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "This is like deja vu all over again." -- Yogi Berra
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 19:36, Bruce Marshall wrote:
1) I believe that my ATI 9000 worked on 9.0 as it came out of the box. And I believe that the modules used were normal kernel modules but I can't attest to that.
That's hopeful, as I use a Hercules 9000 AIW myself. :)
Are you running xfs at all? That takes some patches but it's really easy to do. (a 10 second job)
I'm running ext3 on a RAID-0 setup. What's the advantage of using xfs? Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Wed December 17 2003 04:38 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 19:36, Bruce Marshall wrote:
1) I believe that my ATI 9000 worked on 9.0 as it came out of the box. And I believe that the modules used were normal kernel modules but I can't attest to that.
That's hopeful, as I use a Hercules 9000 AIW myself. :)
Are you running xfs at all? That takes some patches but it's really easy to do. (a 10 second job)
I'm running ext3 on a RAID-0 setup. What's the advantage of using xfs?
Some will say that it is a more robust filesystem. Some won't because they like something different. If you google the net, you can probably find some filesystem comparisons. The one that sold me was written by someone who does video editing for a living, and XFS was the only FS that would keep up with the data flow. EXT3 is nothing more than ext2 with a journal added. Pretty good for most things. Reiserfs might be better than ext3 but with ext3 you can add or remove the journal quite easily without having to re-format the partition. A major advantage. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 12/17/03 17:35 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Do it today, Tomorrow it will be illegal."
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 5:13 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wed December 17 2003 12:03 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
<snip> <snip>
You might consider upgrading to a new kernel... <from www.kernel.org>
The radeon modules are part of the kernel.
The radeon module is, but that's the 2D-only one (unless things have changed in the last couple of months); 3D acceleration is Mesa. If you want hardware 3D, I *think* you still have to go for the fglrx module (the FireGL modules, which also work for Radeons). When I finally got my 9700 Pro working in hardware mode, the glxgears went from 280 fps (Mesa) to 4100 fps (hardware) - so it *is* worth the effort if you want to do 3D stuff in SuSE. (There should also be a new release of the ATI modules at some point next week; 3.2.10, I think.) Gideon.
Gideon Hallett said:
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 5:13 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wed December 17 2003 12:03 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
<snip> <snip>
You might consider upgrading to a new kernel... <from www.kernel.org>
The radeon modules are part of the kernel.
The radeon module is, but that's the 2D-only one (unless things have changed in the last couple of months); 3D acceleration is Mesa.
If you want hardware 3D, I *think* you still have to go for the fglrx module (the FireGL modules, which also work for Radeons).
When I finally got my 9700 Pro working in hardware mode, the glxgears went from 280 fps (Mesa) to 4100 fps (hardware) - so it *is* worth the effort if you want to do 3D stuff in SuSE.
(There should also be a new release of the ATI modules at some point next week; 3.2.10, I think.)
I have a slight problem on my 9.0 system: although I've added "/sbin/modprobe/agpgart" in /etc/init.d/boot.local, it doesn't seem to load the module and hence I get an unaccelerated display; if I drop to runlevel 3, rmmod fglrx and then modprobe agpgart and fglrx in that order, then go back to runlevel 5, I get a fully accelerated display. Am I doing this right? I followed the instructions as posted on LinuxQuestions.org (the one where the "official" SuSE instructions are corrected and clarified). Regards Peter. -- Peter Whysall || peter.whysall@ntlworld.com The IWETHEY Project : http://z.iwethey.org The Collaborative Media Foundation : http://www.collaborativemedia.org
On Thursday 18 December 2003 9:44 am, Peter Whysall wrote:
Gideon Hallett said:
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 5:13 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wed December 17 2003 12:03 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
<snip> When I finally got my 9700 Pro working in hardware mode, the glxgears went from 280 fps (Mesa) to 4100 fps (hardware) - so it *is* worth the effort if you want to do 3D stuff in SuSE. <snip>
I have a slight problem on my 9.0 system: although I've added "/sbin/modprobe/agpgart" in /etc/init.d/boot.local, it doesn't seem to load the module and hence I get an unaccelerated display; if I drop to runlevel 3, rmmod fglrx and then modprobe agpgart and fglrx in that order, then go back to runlevel 5, I get a fully accelerated display.
Out of curiosity, are you using a Via KT400-based motherboard with an AGP 8x slot? If so, then you might want to try looking at the various unofficial patches out there to fix AGP recognition for the 3.2.5/3.2.8 fglrx modules; or you can edit agpgart_be.c by hand before compiling the module. (See http://codenix.net/radeon-howto.html for an example, or http:// nifelheim.dyndns.org/%7Ecocidius/ for a typical patch. AFAIAA, ATI were fixing this issue for the upcoming 3.2.10 release.) I can't be certain that this fixed my problem, since I got my hardware acceleration working at something like 02:00 after prodding and poking stuff willy-nilly for several hours. But it's worth a try. best wishes, Gideon.
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On Wednesday 17 December 2003 11:29 am, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 13:36, Mark wrote:
http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI. html I've no connection with this site or this howto either, just thought it might be useful for some people.
Very nice indeed! :) B.t.w: does SuSE 9.0 support these drivers direct from the box like they support the nvidia drivers or do you still have to download and install them yourself?
Regards,
Pieter Hulshoff
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Peter, I didn't have to use the ATI drivers as a separate install with SuSE 9.0 on my ATI 9200 radeon! Everything setup and worked nicely. I am guessing it is all built in already or the version of XFree86 fully supports it. Either way, 2D & 3D are quite functional for me without installing the ATI drivers separately! I also noticed that the fglrx module is included in the kernel.
Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
So the next question is how do they do in regards to the newer cards? Cards along the lines of the 9600 and 9800? If they can give me 3D on say a 9600 card then I most likely will pick one up. TIA, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/4Lv3N9r/ngHXpykRAg+KAKCrCvy/sz5rhwH5csw/v9IuTPJV+gCeMW4y 8syYtGxN2h2Wr4hw7kdNhns= =S4hS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 03:26 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:
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Peter, I didn't have to use the ATI drivers as a separate install with SuSE 9.0 on my ATI 9200 radeon! Everything setup and worked nicely. I am guessing it is all built in already or the version of XFree86 fully supports it. Either way, 2D & 3D are quite functional for me without installing the ATI drivers separately! I also noticed that the fglrx module is included in the kernel.
Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
So the next question is how do they do in regards to the newer cards? Cards along the lines of the 9600 and 9800? If they can give me 3D on say a 9600 card then I most likely will pick one up.
TIA, Curtis. ==============
Curtis, You could do one of two things, check the card database or just startup sax2, like you were going to setup your card and select ATI to view the many different supported cards. Actually, the 9600 & 9800 were supported under 8.2 XFree86. I don't think 3D was strong, but they were supported already. You might not see 9600 or 9800 in the list as many are listed according to the cpu onboard. R280, 250, 300, etc. The 9200 has the 280, while the 9600 & 9800, I believe, are the 300 & maybe the 350, not sure. Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
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