Hi everyone, I need some input regarding Alcatel ADSL modems ISP recommends Alcatel 1000 A ADSL modem and I have found Alcatel Speedtouch Home ADSL modem. If anyone is using one of these can you give me some insight regarding performance, reliability ease of setup etc. . TIA -- Togan Muftuoglu
hi togan, we used the alcatel 1000 adsl modem here (germany) for about 1/2 year. performed quite well without any disturbance. now they changed to pppoe and we got a new modem (telekom own). the old one seems to be a type for leased connections, whereas the new one "dials up". if you (or anyone else) need that old alcatel 1000, here are some infos : there are two numbers at the bottom : 3EC15223AA03AA and CP974253491 with this numbers you should able to find out what it can do. if anyone want to have it, get in contact with me. only the shipping you have to pay then. i dont want any money for it (its laying around here for about 1 year now..) greets, chris On Dienstag, 13. Februar 2001 14:41, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Hi everyone,
I need some input regarding Alcatel ADSL modems
ISP recommends Alcatel 1000 A ADSL modem and I have found Alcatel Speedtouch Home ADSL modem. If anyone is using one of these can you give me some insight regarding performance, reliability ease of setup etc. .
TIA
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Christian Klippel wrote:
hi togan,
we used the alcatel 1000 adsl modem here (germany) for about 1/2 year. performed quite well without any disturbance. now they changed to pppoe and we got a new modem (telekom own). the old one seems to be a type for leased connections, whereas the new one "dials up".
As far as I know our telekom is talking about dialup (ppp0e) as well since they asked me if I had an ethernet card already. what is the model and make of this one and are you happy with it (any unwanted disconnections or so). Since in my case I have to buy the modem I prefer to have something reliably and qood guality rather then crying out later -- Togan Muftuoglu
re togen, On Dienstag, 13. Februar 2001 15:10, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
As far as I know our telekom is talking about dialup (ppp0e) as well since they asked me if I had an ethernet card already.
uhh, all adsl modem (exept the ones on usb, which do not work for linux) have a ethernet connection. it depends on the modem if pppoe is used or not. ask your telekom if you get a static ip or if they use pppoe. here in germany standard is to get pppoe, but you also can get a static ip. pppoe is bit dificult to spread into a network (router) since (according to our telekom) the acces is meant for one computer only. ok, with linux router it is possible to access it from more than one, but its a bit tricky to set up (at least here...)
what is the model and make of this one and are you happy with it (any unwanted disconnections or so). Since in my case I have to buy the modem I prefer to have something reliably and qood guality rather then crying out later
the telekom modem works well, but not the telekom itself...;) sometimes we have no adsl for serveral hours, but thats a problem with their infrastructure as they told us. with the model numbers i gave in the last mail you should find all info on the alcatel site. the old modem here (1000 ADSL) is no longer produced, so you have to look at the "discontinued" section there. theres a pdf online describing it all. anyway, be sure not to get an modem with usb only....... greets, chris -- visit me at http://mamalala.de
Christian Klippel wrote:
the telekom modem works well, but not the telekom itself...;) sometimes we have no adsl for serveral hours, but thats a problem with their infrastructure as they told us. with the model numbers i gave in the last mail you should find all info on the alcatel site. the old modem here (1000 ADSL) is no longer produced, so you have to look at the "discontinued" section there. theres a pdf online describing it all.
I did check the alcatel site and on the background the pdf manual for 1000 ADSL and speedtouch are being downloaded. Our telekom service company was intending to sell the 1000 model, insisting that it was not discountiuned (kind of stock clearence deal I guess) Thanks for the info -- Togan Muftuoglu
On February 13, 2001 09:26 am, Christian Klippel wrote:
re togen,
On Dienstag, 13. Februar 2001 15:10, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
As far as I know our telekom is talking about dialup (ppp0e) as well since they asked me if I had an ethernet card already.
uhh, all adsl modem (exept the ones on usb, which do not work for linux) have a ethernet connection. it depends on the modem if pppoe is used or not. ask your telekom if you get a static ip or if they use pppoe. here in
That's not true. We used to have DHCP now have PPPoE. The only change was the software.
germany standard is to get pppoe, but you also can get a static ip. pppoe is bit dificult to spread into a network (router) since (according to our telekom) the acces is meant for one computer only. ok, with linux router it is possible to access it from more than one, but its a bit tricky to set up (at least here...)
I didn't have any more problem setting up PPPoE with my firewall then with DHCP. All I did was point everything to PPP0. I think the roaring penguin software is the easiest to setup but the kernel software wasn't too hard. Nick
hi nick, On Dienstag, 13. Februar 2001 16:02, Nick Zentena wrote:
On February 13, 2001 09:26 am, Christian Klippel wrote:
re togen,
On Dienstag, 13. Februar 2001 15:10, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
As far as I know our telekom is talking about dialup (ppp0e) as well since they asked me if I had an ethernet card already.
uhh, all adsl modem (exept the ones on usb, which do not work for linux) have a ethernet connection. it depends on the modem if pppoe is used or not. ask your telekom if you get a static ip or if they use pppoe. here in
That's not true. We used to have DHCP now have PPPoE. The only change was the software.
we never had dhcp for the adsl. at the first time we got an *STATIC* ip adress, so routing was very easy (linuxrouter on one floppy-disk on a 386 machine, no hd, graphics etc. only two NIC's) after that we also got pppoe, but setting up the router was at the first time impossible, it seemed that the telekom locked out this in some way. now it works, but we often have problems with connections leaved open after the accessing machine is already turned off. the router clearly disconnects, as seen in the logs, but on the telekom side the connection is still open. if you read deeper in the alcatel docs you will see that there is a MODEM difference between a static ip and pppoe. the numbers at the bottom of this modem tells what the modem is meant for. pppoe of course is somewhat related to dhcp, as the ethernet connection is treated like a modem connection where you get your ip's after connecting. also (if i had understood it right) the german telekom here uses some funny kind of authentication (on win machines you have to move your mouse to generate some random numbers...;( ) which has required a sligthly different pppoe that works with the german telekom..;(
germany standard is to get pppoe, but you also can get a static ip. pppoe is bit dificult to spread into a network (router) since (according to our telekom) the acces is meant for one computer only. ok, with linux router it is possible to access it from more than one, but its a bit tricky to set up (at least here...)
I didn't have any more problem setting up PPPoE with my firewall then with DHCP. All I did was point everything to PPP0. I think the roaring penguin software is the easiest to setup but the kernel software wasn't too hard.
Nick
greets, chris -- visit me at http://mamalala.de
On February 13, 2001 10:24 am, Christian Klippel wrote: Hi ,
we never had dhcp for the adsl. at the first time we got an *STATIC* ip adress, so routing was very easy (linuxrouter on one floppy-disk on a 386 machine, no hd, graphics etc. only two NIC's) after that we also got pppoe,
Take a look at at coyote. I think it needs at least a 486dx but other then that it can handle everything else you mentioned.
but setting up the router was at the first time impossible, it seemed that the telekom locked out this in some way. now it works, but we often have problems with connections leaved open after the accessing machine is already turned off. the router clearly disconnects, as seen in the logs,
Which PPPoE package ar e you using? From my expierence most of the problems are terrible PPPoE packages. That's why the windows people are having so much trouble-)) Nick
Hi, Forgive me for butting in on this very technical thread, but it began just as I was starting to consider getting an ADSL connection, and I would be very grateful if anyone can answer the following basic question (in fact I think that Christian Klippel may already have dealt with it, but I want to be sure I understand). I have a single PC in my home office running SuSE 7.0 and kernel 2.4.0. My ISP is (you will be amazed to hear), totally linux-unfriendly ("we do not support linux or any other Unix"). They offer ADSL using an Alcatel Speed Touch USB modem. I understood Christian to say that USB modems do not work under linux. I made a quick visit to the Alcatel site, however. and got the impression that they say it will work. I will be very grateful for any advice that will point me in the right direction. TIA Geoff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
It was announced today (13 February) that Alcatel will support Linux
for the USB Speed Touch modems.
HTH,
Jeffrey
Quoting quintaq@yahoo.co.uk
Hi,
Forgive me for butting in on this very technical thread, but it began just as I was starting to consider getting an ADSL connection, and I would be very grateful if anyone can answer the following basic question (in fact I think that Christian Klippel may already have dealt with it, but I want to be sure I understand).
I have a single PC in my home office running SuSE 7.0 and kernel 2.4.0. My ISP is (you will be amazed to hear), totally linux-unfriendly ("we do not support linux or any other Unix"). They offer ADSL using an Alcatel Speed Touch USB modem. I understood Christian to say that USB modems do not work under linux. I made a quick visit to the Alcatel site, however. and got the impression that they say it will work.
I will be very grateful for any advice that will point me in the right direction.
TIA
Geoff
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 According to Alcatel, the drivers are due in march. Þann þriðjudagur 13 febrúar 2001 19:08 skrifaðir þú:
Hi,
Forgive me for butting in on this very technical thread, but it began just as I was starting to consider getting an ADSL connection, and I would be very grateful if anyone can answer the following basic question (in fact I think that Christian Klippel may already have dealt with it, but I want to be sure I understand).
I have a single PC in my home office running SuSE 7.0 and kernel 2.4.0. My ISP is (you will be amazed to hear), totally linux-unfriendly ("we do not support linux or any other Unix"). They offer ADSL using an Alcatel Speed Touch USB modem. I understood Christian to say that USB modems do not work under linux. I made a quick visit to the Alcatel site, however. and got the impression that they say it will work.
I will be very grateful for any advice that will point me in the right direction.
TIA
Geoff
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-----Original Message----- From: quintaq@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:quintaq@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:09 PM To: SuSE list Subject: Re: [SLE] Suggestions for ADSL modem
Hi,
Forgive me for butting in on this very technical thread, but it began just as I was starting to consider getting an ADSL connection, and I would be very grateful if anyone can answer the following basic question (in fact I think that Christian Klippel may already have dealt with it, but I want to be sure I understand).
I have a single PC in my home office running SuSE 7.0 and kernel 2.4.0. My ISP is (you will be amazed to hear), totally linux-unfriendly ("we do not support linux or any other Unix"). They offer ADSL using an Alcatel Speed Touch USB modem. I understood Christian to say that USB modems do not work under linux. I made a quick visit to the Alcatel site, however. and got the impression that they say it will work.
I will be very grateful for any advice that will point me in the right direction.
The anouncement was made by Alcatel yesterday that they would be releasing the driver source code for the USB SpeedTouch modem in March. A linux driver should then be ready sometime later. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
From: Charles A Edwards
Hi,
The anouncement was made by Alcatel yesterday that they would be releasing the driver source code for the USB SpeedTouch modem in March. A linux driver should then be ready sometime later.
This is the second best news this year.... Cheers Phil
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:10:26PM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Christian Klippel wrote:
hi togan,
we used the alcatel 1000 adsl modem here (germany) for about 1/2 year. performed quite well without any disturbance. now they changed to pppoe and we got a new modem (telekom own). the old one seems to be a type for leased connections, whereas the new one "dials up".
As far as I know our telekom is talking about dialup (ppp0e) as well since they asked me if I had an ethernet card already. what is the model and make of this one and are you happy with it (any unwanted disconnections or so). Since in my case I have to buy the modem I prefer to have something reliably and qood guality rather then crying out later
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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Hi Togan, I am running an ADSL service for our employees, and we use the Alcatel ANT 1000. It has proven to be reliable. 90% of all failures in the ADSL system can be traced to the BBRAS which is run by the telco if they use pptp ( which is dialup ). The other 10% can be traced to problems with old wiring ( 30+ yrs old wires _may_ be in a shape bad enough not to support the bandwidth of ADSL ). There is a difference at the telco's end wether you choose the ANT 1000, or the SpeedTouch. The seating for the SpeedTouch is different, and the telco has to be informed which type you are using. There is one solution better than using the Alcatel modems. The Cisco 827 ADSL router. Stay clear of the Zyxel ADSL gizmos tho. They are buggy bastards, and you'll spend eternity fixing your configs :-) Happy ADSL'ing :) -tosi -- ______ /---------------------------------------\ \ | Þór Sigurðsson | Tor Sigurdsson | t | | Netmaður | Network Specialist | o | |-----------------------------------------| s | | tosi@rhi.hi.is | i | \---------------------------------------/_____/
Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
Hi Togan,
I am running an ADSL service for our employees, and we use the Alcatel ANT 1000. It has proven to be reliable. 90% of all failures in the ADSL system can be traced to the BBRAS which is run by the telco if they use pptp ( which is dialup ). The other 10% can be traced to problems with old wiring ( 30+ yrs old wires _may_ be in a shape bad enough not to support the bandwidth of ADSL ).
This good to know to understand who's end is the problem area Thanks for the tip.
There is a difference at the telco's end wether you choose the ANT 1000, or the SpeedTouch. The seating for the SpeedTouch is different, and the telco has to be informed which type you are using.
I have talked with the Alcatel main dealer and he said telco will work with both and there is a 50 USD$ difference Alcatele 1000 A is 350 USD$ + tax and Speed Touch is 400 USD $ + tax. Now my idea is if 1000A is a dicontinued product why should nt I pay 50 more to get a better modem. Now the price in other parts of europe could be different so priceshopping will be my second step
There is one solution better than using the Alcatel modems. The Cisco 827 ADSL router.
Will consider this as well
Happy ADSL'ing :)
Hopefully will do when I will eventually get it all setup (Most probably I will be asking for help since these telecom guys here are MSwinodws oriented) -- Togan Muftuoglu
See http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/16854.html for an article
on Linux support for the Alcatel USB "modem".
HTH,
Jeffrey
Quoting Togan Muftuoglu
Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
Hi Togan,
I am running an ADSL service for our employees, and we use the Alcatel ANT 1000. It has proven to be reliable. 90% of all failures in the ADSL system can be traced to the BBRAS which is run by the telco if they use pptp ( which is dialup ). The other 10% can be traced to problems with old wiring ( 30+ yrs old wires _may_ be in a shape bad enough not to support the bandwidth of ADSL ).
This good to know to understand who's end is the problem area Thanks for the tip.
There is a difference at the telco's end wether you choose the ANT 1000, or the SpeedTouch. The seating for the SpeedTouch is different, and the telco has to be informed which type you are using.
I have talked with the Alcatel main dealer and he said telco will work with both and there is a 50 USD$ difference Alcatele 1000 A is 350 USD$ + tax and Speed Touch is 400 USD $ + tax. Now my idea is if 1000A is a dicontinued product why should nt I pay 50 more to get a better modem. Now the price in other parts of europe could be different so priceshopping will be my second step
There is one solution better than using the Alcatel modems. The Cisco 827 ADSL router.
Will consider this as well
Happy ADSL'ing :)
Hopefully will do when I will eventually get it all setup (Most probably I will be asking for help since these telecom guys here are MSwinodws oriented)
-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck
I used an Alcatel 1000 ANT for a year and it behaved fine. I had to
cycle the power once or twice. It has a Web server inside for
configuration, but none was needed. At the time, Linux was not
supported so I booted into Win98 until the technician pronounced it
working and then booted into Linux. Everything work fine. This was
with DHCP, not PPPoE.
Jeffrey
Quoting Togan Muftuoglu
Hi everyone,
I need some input regarding Alcatel ADSL modems
ISP recommends Alcatel 1000 A ADSL modem and I have found Alcatel Speedtouch Home ADSL modem. If anyone is using one of these can you give me some insight regarding performance, reliability ease of setup etc. .
TIA
-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck
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