SheridanJ West wrote:

On 9/8/05, Donald D Henson wrote:

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Does anyone know the URL where I can place an advance order for SuSE Linux V10 Upgrade? I'd appreciate any pointers.

I've always waited for the version 'major.release2' if it is released (that would be 10.2) Depends whether Novell will bother since 'Opensuse' is on the case.

Somebody knows,

So It might mean downloading large dvd iso's and trying to find an 8.5 gb +r/-r blank dvd supplier that should be fun getting as 4.7 gb disks is easy but 8.5 gb disks are pricey and hard to source.

I'd rather have dvd media just in case the net connection goes up the spout along with everything else, and patch from that point to an online source.

Depends - my feelings are mixed about whats happening.

I'm talking about the boxed set containing DVDs and CDs. It usually costs just under 60 bucks. Donald D. Henson, Managing Director West El Paso Information Network The "Non-Initiation of Force Principle" Rules

On Friday 09 September 2005 00:23, SheridanJ West wrote:

I do know what you mean - but what was 'Suse' and how we 'get it' is now changing. Lets suppose the new iso's say available to download on release day becomes more popular and replaces the current way most of us get suse.

The downloadable OSS version will not be the same as the boxed version, there is added value, in commercial, non-open source packages

Saw that article earlier. It kinda sounds like they're not going to sell direct anymore. Donald D. Henson, Managing Director West El Paso Information Network The "Non-Initiation of Force Principle" Rules Darryl Gregorash wrote:

Donald D Henson wrote:

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Does anyone know the URL where I can place an advance order for SuSE Linux V10 Upgrade? I'd appreciate any pointers.

The most recent news release I can find from Novell is here: http://www.novell.com/news/press/item.jsp?contentid=a2e8d2eb89036010VgnVCM10...

On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:44, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/item.jsp?contentid=a2e8d2eb89036010VgnV CM1000000100007f____

The article included a link to their list of SuSE retailers. The first three that I tried for my area (Ottawa, Canada) were defective. One was a broken link in Quebec (preferable for ordering because then I don't pay Ontario sales tax...), another was a defunct Ottawa business that formerly sold discount/overstock books, software, etc., and the third was for a book retailer that doesn't list software in its stock. They also, conspicuously, did _not_ list Camelot.ca which is a booming business in downtown Montreal and ships for free across Canada. I bought my last four or five SuSE boxes from them. Based on that (admittedly small) sampling, I wonder if Novell/SuSE is any better represented in the rest of the world, at the retail level. I'll bet Microsoft would do a better job of policing its distribution network... which is just one factor that explains the relative wealth of both companies. I don't want to knock Novell - I'd just like them to wake up and tighten up, so that they (and SuSE) enjoy continued success. Letting your reseller network go to seed is not good marketing practice. Kevin

On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 21:57 -0400, elefino wrote:

On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:44, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

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http://www.novell.com/news/press/item.jsp?contentid=a2e8d2eb89036010VgnV CM1000000100007f____

The article included a link to their list of SuSE retailers. The first three that I tried for my area (Ottawa, Canada) were defective.

One was a broken link in Quebec (preferable for ordering because then I don't pay Ontario sales tax...), another was a defunct Ottawa business that formerly sold discount/overstock books, software, etc., and the third was for a book retailer that doesn't list software in its stock.

They also, conspicuously, did _not_ list Camelot.ca which is a booming business in downtown Montreal and ships for free across Canada. I bought my last four or five SuSE boxes from them. Based on that (admittedly small) sampling, I wonder if Novell/SuSE is any better represented in the rest of the world, at the retail level.

'Zat's 'cause we're supposed to order through womeone who deals with "microsomething" the big importer here and stateside. {Problem is they are so heavy handed with their retail slaves (they treat them more like this than partners) that no-one wants to special order them down this way. (south west Ont)

I'll bet Microsoft would do a better job of policing its distribution network... which is just one factor that explains the relative wealth of both companies. I don't want to knock Novell - I'd just like them to wake up and tighten up, so that they (and SuSE) enjoy continued success. Letting your reseller network go to seed is not good marketing practice.

I have no problems using Camelot, but they get stuff a good month or two after stateside release. :( Mike