Anton Aylward wrote:

What does work on the train? Perhaps your cell phone? Perhaps you have a data service with your cell phone and can 'tether' to that.

Many trains and planes now have WiFi. Of course, many devices now support direct connection to the cell network. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dne Čt 17. dubna 2014 17:18:30, Dsant napsal(a):

Le 17/04/2014 17:08, James Knott a écrit :

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Anton Aylward wrote:

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What does work on the train? Perhaps your cell phone? Perhaps you have a data service with your cell phone and can 'tether' to that.

Many trains and planes now have WiFi. Of course, many devices now support direct connection to the cell network.

Have you ever used wifi in a flying plane ?

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On 04/18/2014 06:32 AM, Dsant wrote:

Le 17/04/2014 23:01, Matt Darnell a écrit :

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I am running a new Acer C720 Chromebook. Chose the Intel processor over the Samsung Chromebook. I'm running Arch Linux on it with all my desktop apps and use it mostly everywhere I go or need. I only wish I could somehow get OpenSUSE or Fedora on the machine instead of having Arch Linux running in Crogah.--

Interesting. Where do you live ? Do you use it in bus / car/ train ? Which network are you using ?

I currently live in Oklahoma, United States of America. I mainly am using it at home doing work. However I am constantly using it on the go at others houses, my work place, car, and when I have to airports and airplanes. I use a VPN hotspot from my cell phone to get internet as I hate public hotspots. As for the airplane I am normally playing Battle for Wesnoth instead of using the sloooow airplane internet. It runs games pretty good, and I would suggest this to anyone really. You can run Ubuntu, Debian, Bodhi, Manjaro, or Arch Linux. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

I've actually got two Chromebooks. They work wherever I have a cellular connection. For media files a data connection isn't necessary. You can always work on text files locally as well. No data connection necessary. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:

On 04/17/2014 08:10 AM, Dsant wrote:

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Le 17/04/2014 13:29, Billie Walsh a écrit :

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Anton wrote in another thread:

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Or there's this as the future of Linux: http://www.zdnet.com/linux-is-about-to-take-over-the-desktop-but-not-like-yo...

The thing that bothers me is that if your not connected to the web you basically have a paperweight.

Same belief here : it works perfectly within the laboratory, but not in the train in Europe :(

What does work on the train? Perhaps your cell phone? Perhaps you have a data service with your cell phone and can 'tether' to that.

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps...

Or perhaps you might live in one of the Google'd cities where there is wifi everywhere.

SF stories of the past (e.g Poul and Kornblaugh's 'The Space Merchants") envisioned a world where the nations state had faded and the business empire was dominant. I see in the media that people like Mathias Dopfner of the Axel Springer group sees Google as a threat to the pan-European super-state. Or perhaps he sees Google as a threat to his media empire. Actually the article on the BBC uses the term "Superstate".

Such a superstate run by Google would, no doubt, have ubiquitous wifi, and we'll all be running netbooks and galaxy style phones, all with minimal local storage since the 'Net/Cloud would be soaking everything up.

Wifi relays on Mt Hood and Ayer's Rock ...

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On 04/18/2014 12:25 AM, C wrote:

There are places in Europe where you can get free WiFi while mobile... such as the rest stations on the German and Austrian Autobahn... or McDonalds (most have WiFi)... or coffee shops (the ones that actually serve coffee, not the Amsterdam coffee shops).

Oddly enough, I find it easier to find WiFi while travelling in Africa than while travelling in Europe.

That's interesting, but not enough of an incentive to make me cross the Atlantic yet again :-) It seems the pressure is on to make wifi as ubiquitous as cell phone connectivity. I'm not sure why. Perhaps its really a race between the data services that call phone providers already have and some non-organized wifi providers. Yes there are businesses that provide pay-for wifi service at airports and hotels, but I wonder about the places providing free service. Perhaps restaurants and coffee shops see it as a way to keep paying customers on premise, but then I'm not sure about the economics of that. The projects that address city or neighbourhood coverage in the same way that cell phones do are likely to run into the same problems that the cell phone service providers do eventually -- scientifically illiterate parents complaining about the microwaves from wifi relays cooking their childrens' brains. Of course you could look at the other way round: there used to be many articles about Wardriving, but they seem to have dropped off. Does that mean our downtown business cores and our suburbs not have access points that are properly secured? I pull out my phone and scan and there are about 20 Aps near my home, most secured, but there are a few open printers! The local mall has open access that links to the Internet at a few restaurants and they are poorly positions so accessible though most of the mall. Apart from that there are a couple of dozen stores with access points, some not secured at all, hat don't link to the 'Net. They seem to be local to the store, perhaps POS support or other private app, catalogue or similar. Perhaps they think that because they don't connect to the 'Net they don't need proper security! Despite local storage and the ability to work locally, the whole logic behind Chromebooks is based on telecommuting and that then involves sharing work in the Cloud. That means connectivity. Perhaps telecommuting is seen as a way to address Global Warming by not driving to work :-) Once again I'm not sure of the economics. What I d see is that it will open up more business opportunities, more 'Cloud Services', more 'security services'. But that doesn't make me want to rush out and buy one. -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. --Bertrand Russell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-04-17 17:10, Anton Aylward wrote:

Don't get me started on what the RIAA doesn't want me to copy: 45s, 8-tracks, cassettes, thousands of dollars worth of 12" vinyl. They expected me to replace that with thousands of dollars of Cds, and now those are to become targets for skeet-shooting rather than paperweights, as I spend more thousands to convert my collection to mp3 and oggvorbis.

Paperweights, landfill ...

Apparently, the master digital copies of Hollywood movies are so huge (over 8 terabytes each) that long term storage is made on _film_. Not colour film, but 3 B/W copies, one for each colour. And this in triplicate. This is guaranteed to last for a century at least, whereas a digital copy has to be regenerated and moved to new media every few years - worst than papyrus. (and migrating a single digital copy of that size takes more than simply hours) (source: ieee spectrum 3.14, p.32) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)