[opensuse] smart (was: 10.2 is turning into a nightmare)
riccardo35@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue 13 Feb 2007 13:12, Joachim Schrod wrote:
Does smart to post-install actions by now?
Smart Package Manager http://labix.org/smart - there you will see FAQs & features
SMART Package Manager - SuSE Wiki :- http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Smart
Index of /pub/suser-guru/smart http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/smart/
Sorry, but none of these URLs answers the specific question from my email. To repeat it: The last time I looked at smart, I had to care for SuSEconfig execution and daemon restarts myself; whereas apt4rpm does this out of the box. Has this been changed by now? Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2/13/07, Joachim Schrod
riccardo35@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue 13 Feb 2007 13:12, Joachim Schrod wrote:
Does smart to post-install actions by now?
Smart Package Manager http://labix.org/smart - there you will see FAQs & features
SMART Package Manager - SuSE Wiki :- http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Smart
Index of /pub/suser-guru/smart http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/smart/
Sorry, but none of these URLs answers the specific question from my email. To repeat it:
The last time I looked at smart, I had to care for SuSEconfig execution and daemon restarts myself; whereas apt4rpm does this out of the box. Has this been changed by now?
Joachim
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AFAIK since 10.1 the packages themselves should be responsible for SuSEConfig, i.e. if a package needs it, its post-install script needs to do the job. So, smart does not do this. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 10:21:36 am Joachim Schrod wrote:
Sorry, but none of these URLs answers the specific question from my email. To repeat it:
The last time I looked at smart, I had to care for SuSEconfig execution and daemon restarts myself; whereas apt4rpm does this out of the box. Has this been changed by now?
Joachim
Don't know the correct answer but I do notice that some RPMs will run their specific portion of SuSEconfig when smart installs them. I've modified the menu entry for smart --gui to run 'ldconfig && SuSEconfig' when I quit smart. I too am waiting for a definitive answer on this. At one time i heard that the SUSE developers are working to eliminate the need to run SuSEconfig and/or that smart may gain the same capability as apt/synaptic. Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 08:53, S Glasoe wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 10:21:36 am Joachim Schrod wrote:
Sorry, but none of these URLs answers the specific question from my email. To repeat it:
The last time I looked at smart, I had to care for SuSEconfig execution and daemon restarts myself; whereas apt4rpm does this out of the box. Has this been changed by now?
Joachim
Don't know the correct answer but I do notice that some RPMs will run their specific portion of SuSEconfig when smart installs them.
I've modified the menu entry for smart --gui to run 'ldconfig && SuSEconfig' when I quit smart. I too am waiting for a definitive answer on this. At one time i heard that the SUSE developers are working to eliminate the need to run SuSEconfig and/or that smart may gain the same capability as apt/synaptic.
Yeah, I have no idea what those things do, but when I install something, it is available in my menu and runs. I can also look it up in YAST. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 08:53, S Glasoe wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 10:21:36 am Joachim Schrod wrote:
The last time I looked at smart, I had to care for SuSEconfig execution and daemon restarts myself; whereas apt4rpm does this out of the box. Has this been changed by now?
I've modified the menu entry for smart --gui to run 'ldconfig && SuSEconfig' when I quit smart. I too am waiting for a definitive answer on this. At one time i heard that the SUSE developers are working to eliminate the need to run SuSEconfig and/or that smart may gain the same capability as apt/synaptic.
Yeah, I have no idea what those things do,
ldconfig makes available new shared library versions, with new version numbers, that are not in /lib or in /usr/lib. SuSEconfig makes available changes in /etc/sysconfig/ in those cases where the programs don't read these configuration files themselves, but where these values are incorporated into other configuration, data files, or symbolic links.
but when I install something, it is available in my menu and runs. I can also look it up in YAST.
Sadly, this observation is not sufficient. ldconfig and SuSEconfig are needed by very few packages, mostly basic libraries and some server software. Nevertheless, it *IS* needed in those cases, and therefore I asked for it. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 06:23, Joachim Schrod wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 08:53, S Glasoe wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 10:21:36 am Joachim Schrod wrote:
The last time I looked at smart, I had to care for SuSEconfig execution and daemon restarts myself; whereas apt4rpm does this out of the box. Has this been changed by now?
I've modified the menu entry for smart --gui to run 'ldconfig && SuSEconfig' when I quit smart. I too am waiting for a definitive answer on this. At one time i heard that the SUSE developers are working to eliminate the need to run SuSEconfig and/or that smart may gain the same capability as apt/synaptic.
Yeah, I have no idea what those things do,
ldconfig makes available new shared library versions, with new version numbers, that are not in /lib or in /usr/lib.
SuSEconfig makes available changes in /etc/sysconfig/ in those cases where the programs don't read these configuration files themselves, but where these values are incorporated into other configuration, data files, or symbolic links.
Okay, well, I'm not sure then - but, I just installed the new version of Pan 0.123 today. As there isn't an RPM I did the ./configure > make > checkinstall route. After the first configure, Pan balked at some library I needed. I started SMART and installed the library. I then restarted configure and it ran fine. I was then able to install Pan from the RPM that I'd built with checkinstall. I'm currently using SMART 0.50-1 on this machine (and I think on my others, too). Can I assume it ran the SUSEConfig?
but when I install something, it is available in my menu and runs. I can also look it up in YAST.
Sadly, this observation is not sufficient. ldconfig and SuSEconfig are needed by very few packages, mostly basic libraries and some server software. Nevertheless, it *IS* needed in those cases, and therefore I asked for it.
Understood. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Kai Ponte
Okay, well, I'm not sure then - but, I just installed the new version of Pan 0.123 today. As there isn't an RPM I did the ./configure > make > checkinstall route.
13:28 wahoo:~ smart query --installed --channels-show pan pan-0.124-1.1@x86_64 [rpm-sys, sdrahn] http://repos.opensuse.org/home%3A/sdrahn/SUSE_Linux_10.1/ funny, I have a later version that is an openSUSE rpm. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Kai Ponte
[02-14-07 11:08]: [...] Okay, well, I'm not sure then - but, I just installed the new version of Pan 0.123 today. As there isn't an RPM I did the ./configure > make > checkinstall route.
13:28 wahoo:~ smart query --installed --channels-show pan pan-0.124-1.1@x86_64 [rpm-sys, sdrahn]
http://repos.opensuse.org/home%3A/sdrahn/SUSE_Linux_10.1/
funny, I have a later version that is an openSUSE rpm.
I must not have that one my source list. Accoring to the website, I wasn't supposed to be using 124 yet. At least I thought I read that. In any case, thanks. I grabbed the rpm and installed it. All is good now. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Joachim Schrod
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Kai Ponte
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Patrick Shanahan
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S Glasoe
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Sunny