On 16/03/13 17:51, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2013-03-16 16:46 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:

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I have an external SATA3 2TB Western Digital HDD which is formatted (at the moment) in ntfs.

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When I switch it on Dolphin opens this HDD and I can see all the files it contains.

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But unlike what I got in 12.2 when I start mc (Midnight Commander, my much preferred file manager) mc doesn't 'see' this HDD. In 12.2 it used to be mounted in /media/<name of HDD> .

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In /etc/filesystem I have 'ntfs' as an addition to the list of file systems.

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So, why isn't the HDD mounted in /media as in the past?

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Any clues, please?

Since I nearly always mount my externals manually, and in runlevel 3, I'm unfamiliar how in X auto-mounting does or should work with eSATA devices. MC only fails for me if I forget to mount first. :-)

Nevertheless I'm going to take a stab in hopes of getting you going somewhere and say it's likely to do with udisks and/or udisks2. On 12.3 you may have one installed and need the other either also or instead.

[on 12.2] gx280# zypper se -s udisk S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository --+------------------------+------------+--------------+--------+-----------

i | libudisks2-0 | package | 1.97.0-2.9.1 | i586 | Updates v | libudisks2-0 | package | 1.97.0-2.5.1 | i586 | Updates v | libudisks2-0 | package | 1.97.0-2.2.2 | i586 | OSS | typelib-1_0-UDisks-2_0 | package | 1.97.0-2.9.1 | i586 | Updates | typelib-1_0-UDisks-2_0 | package | 1.97.0-2.5.1 | i586 | Updates | typelib-1_0-UDisks-2_0 | package | 1.97.0-2.2.2 | i586 | OSS i | udisks | package | 1.0.4-7.2.2 | i586 | OSS | udisks-devel | package | 1.0.4-7.2.2 | i586 | OSS i | udisks-glue | package | 1.3.1-84.1.2 | i586 | OSS i | udisks2 | package | 1.97.0-2.9.1 | i586 | Updates v | udisks2 | package | 1.97.0-2.5.1 | i586 | Updates v | udisks2 | package | 1.97.0-2.2.2 | i586 | OSS | udisks2 | srcpackage | 1.97.0-2.9.1 | noarch | Updates | udisks2 | srcpackage | 1.97.0-2.5.1 | noarch | Updates | udisks2-devel | package | 1.97.0-2.9.1 | i586 | Updates | udisks2-devel | package | 1.97.0-2.5.1 | i586 | Updates | udisks2-devel | package | 1.97.0-2.2.2 | i586 | OSS | udisks2-lang | package | 1.97.0-2.9.1 | noarch | Updates | udisks2-lang | package | 1.97.0-2.5.1 | noarch | Updates | udisks2-lang | package | 1.97.0-2.2.2 | noarch | OSS

[on 12.3] gx280# zypper se -s udisk S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository --+------------------------+---------+--------------+--------+----------- i | libudisks2-0 | package | 2.0.0-5.1.1 | i586 | OSS | typelib-1_0-UDisks-2_0 | package | 2.0.0-5.1.1 | i586 | OSS | udisks | package | 1.0.4-11.1.1 | i586 | OSS | udisks-devel | package | 1.0.4-11.1.1 | i586 | OSS | udisks-glue | package | 1.3.1-86.1.1 | i586 | OSS | udisks2 | package | 2.0.0-5.1.1 | i586 | OSS | udisks2-devel | package | 2.0.0-5.1.1 | i586 | OSS | udisks2-lang | package | 2.0.0-5.1.1 | noarch | OSS

Thanks, Felix, I'll install udisks later to see what happens but for the moment I found where the darn HDD is hiding - a place I would never had even guessed if my life depended on it :-( . What a *STUPID* place for 12.3 to mount it! :-( . See my response to Michael Norman. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 with KDE 4.10.1 & kernel 3.8.2-3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 16/03/13 07:08, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

В Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:46:43 +1100 Basil Chupin пишет:

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I have an external SATA3 2TB Western Digital HDD which is formatted (at the moment) in ntfs.

When I switch it on Dolphin opens this HDD and I can see all the files it contains.

But unlike what I got in 12.2 when I start mc (Midnight Commander, my much preferred file manager) mc doesn't 'see' this HDD. In 12.2 it used to be mounted in /media/<name of HDD> .

Well, then use "df" to find out where your DE mounts it. Most likely it is /run/media/<your-user-name>/<device-label>

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In /etc/filesystem I have 'ntfs' as an addition to the list of file systems.

So, why isn't the HDD mounted in /media as in the past?

This is question to those who write this software, not to those who use it.

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Any clues, please?

BC

PS The HDD is also recognised in XP and accessible by all file managers (which I have in XP).

I don't know why it is but on my 12.3 such externaal drives now get mounted in /home/michael/media/name of drive

Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin wrote:

On 16/03/13 19:30, michael norman wrote:

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On 16/03/13 07:08, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

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� Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:46:43 +1100 Basil Chupin �����:

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I have an external SATA3 2TB Western Digital HDD which is formatted (at the moment) in ntfs.

When I switch it on Dolphin opens this HDD and I can see all the files it contains.

But unlike what I got in 12.2 when I start mc (Midnight Commander, my much preferred file manager) mc doesn't 'see' this HDD. In 12.2 it used to be mounted in /media/<name of HDD> .

Well, then use "df" to find out where your DE mounts it. Most likely it is /run/media/<your-user-name>/<device-label>

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In /etc/filesystem I have 'ntfs' as an addition to the list of file

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systems.

So, why isn't the HDD mounted in /media as in the past?

This is question to those who write this software, not to those who use it.

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Any clues, please?

BC

PS The HDD is also recognised in XP and accessible by all file managers (which I have in XP).

I don't know why it is but on my 12.3 such externaal drives now get mounted in /home/michael/media/name of drive

Thanks Michael - it wasn't there. In a moment of exceptional inspiration [tm] ( :-) ) I used Dolphin itself to find it (by looking at the HDDs Properties).

The darn this is mounted in:

/var/run/media/<my-login-name>/

Why there, for chrissake?!

At least I found it.

BC

Basil, How are you making it mount in the first place without dolphin? When I connect an external drive with 12.3 I am asked by a notifier if I want to open the drive in dolphin. If I say no, it doesn't mount at all. :( Verified by that very simple command "mount". If I then open dolphin and click on the drive on the left side, it gets mounted where you say, but also in /run/media/<my-user-name>. I do most of my production work on external drives from the command line so having to jump to dolphin is a pain. Especially if I'm using a terminal console (cntrl-alt-f2, etc.) Greg -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 17/03/13 00:37, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Greg Freemyer [03-16-13 09:30]: [...]

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I do most of my production work on external drives from the command line so having to jump to dolphin is a pain. Especially if I'm using a terminal console (cntrl-alt-f2, etc.) istr that you can set specific drives to automagically mount when attached. You can also immediately after attaching the drive: demsg |tail |grep sd mount -t auto <result-from-above> /<choice-location>

or simply add device by lable/id to /etc/fstab

I'll mull this over thanks, Patrick. But the question remains: why the heck change the mount point from /media where it has been for years? The mind boggles. As someone said of grub2: "overengineered". BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 with KDE 4.10.1 & kernel 3.8.2-3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-03-16 14:15, Basil Chupin wrote:

The darn this is mounted in:

/var/run/media/<my-login-name>/

Why there, for chrissake?!

At least I found it.

This has been commented for a long time, I have been reading of this change since months. It is an upstream decision, somewhere. They think it is better to have the username in the mount point. Why not /media/user/label_or_something, don't ask me. :-(( - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFEeqEACgkQIvFNjefEBxoilgCdHBa/XZfpiQLiFenXRHIFMbp2 WCQAoMESLBVqN4r1fEa2LrCvsAmjT5yu =5/LZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org