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Yep it was the win 95 upgrade poly that forced you to buy another copy of windows if you wanted any of the enhancements. I ended up waiting till win98 came out as by then I realy needed the fat32 support. That cost me 89.00 just cause I needed FAT32 suport. So yes I am still pissed off about it.
Kirk Writes in response..... I had to get off the floor, I was laughing so hard. You folks hate M$ so much that you cannot go look on thier web sites and download a free piece of software that did the convert to fat32. It was posted on the Microsoft Site for free download. I am sorry, but getting mad over something like that really amazes me. The upgrade policies for Microsoft may be stricter than most here would like, I do not mind paying 89.00 for software that I need. I paid 499.95 for a single user license of Microport... (anyone remember them). I have paid Sun's outrageous prices for software also... I had a Sun 3/280 with Eagle drives (at my house ;)), and paid Sun 900+ dollars for the tapes. So 89.00 seems cheap to me..... Remember SCO Unix, or XENIX. heheh Lets talk money and the foolish prices that we have paid... :) It just tickles me.... It does.... -- Kirk Moore EPM - Release Management environments - STL's 425-965-6543 (desk) 425-797-9092 (pager) Black holes are created when God divides by zero! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Someone wrote:
Yep it was the win 95 upgrade poly that forced you to buy another copy
windows if you wanted any of the enhancements. I ended up waiting till win98 came out as by then I realy needed the fat32 support. That cost me 89.00 just cause I needed FAT32 suport. So yes I am still pissed off about it.
Kirk Writes in response..... I had to get off the floor, I was laughing so hard. You folks hate M$ so much that you cannot go look on thier web sites and download a free piece of software that did the convert to fat32. It was
mad over something like that really amazes me. The upgrade policies for Microsoft may be stricter than most here would like, I do not mind paying 89.00 for software that I need. I paid 499.95 for a single user license of Microport... (anyone remember them). I have paid Sun's outrageous prices for software also... I had a Sun 3/280 with Eagle drives (at my house ;)), and
of posted on the Microsoft Site for free download. I am sorry, but getting paid Sun 900+ dollars for the tapes. So 89.00 seems cheap to me..... Remember SCO Unix, or XENIX. heheh Lets talk money and the foolish prices that we have paid... :)
It just tickles me.... It does....
I seen the funniest ad (from Microsoft) in I think either news week or people magazine that stated "Windows 2000 is thridteen times more realible then Windows 98!" IMHO that was funny as hell coming from Microsofts marketing engine. Unix is high price, but because of the free ones out there (Linux, *BSD, Minix ) a lot of commerical vendors are giving or selling their OS for free to dirty cheap. Sun, SCO, iBSD (they have probably changed do to the merger with FreeBSD (err Walcreek)) can (or atleast could) allow there OS's to be picked up for about $10-$40 a pop for not for profit, non-commerical educational usage only. Sure doesn't do anything if you have a bussiness, but if you are just a unix hobbiest, it is an amazing deal. For 900+ bucks, you could buy a stacked out SS20 for that and run say Sparc Linux, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris 7 sparc or Solaris 8 educational developers editions assuming that the seller didn't include a license copy of Solaris (got Solaris 2.6 license legally with SS2). Your just plain crazy :)
-- Kirk Moore EPM - Release Management environments - STL's 425-965-6543 (desk) 425-797-9092 (pager)
Black holes are created when God divides by zero!
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Unix is high price, but because of the free ones out there (Linux, *BSD, Minix ) a lot of commerical vendors are giving or selling their OS for free to dirty cheap. Sun, SCO, iBSD (they have probably changed do to the merger with FreeBSD (err Walcreek)) can (or atleast could) allow there OS's to be picked up for about $10-$40 a pop for not for profit, non-commerical educational usage only. Sure doesn't do anything if you have a bussiness, but if you are just a unix hobbiest, it is an amazing deal.
Actually Solaris in now $10-$40 bucks for home or business use. However, it still ain't that easy to use (well, I can't say that I've only had experience with FreeBSD and Linux, but...). That's why iMacs and Windows PCs still sell faster than something free/cheap. And even if it is, is that any reason to not just dislike, but utterly hate a man? C'mon people it isn't worth it! -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" ===================== -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just a sec, Tim, are you saying Windows is easy to use? For you and me, maybe, but other people? No way. Go to your local book store. Look at alllll those Windows books. Know why they are there? Cause people don't have a clue what they are doing in Windows. I am not saying that Linux is easy either. Sometimes even I get confused and have problems. But to imply that one OS is "easier to use than another even if you have to pay for one and the other is free" is laughable at best. Let's drop this topic. It is getting quite tiresome. On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
Unix is high price, but because of the free ones out there (Linux, *BSD, Minix ) a lot of commerical vendors are giving or selling their OS for free to dirty cheap. Sun, SCO, iBSD (they have probably changed do to the merger with FreeBSD (err Walcreek)) can (or atleast could) allow there OS's to be picked up for about $10-$40 a pop for not for profit, non-commerical educational usage only. Sure doesn't do anything if you have a bussiness, but if you are just a unix hobbiest, it is an amazing deal.
Actually Solaris in now $10-$40 bucks for home or business use. However, it still ain't that easy to use (well, I can't say that I've only had experience with FreeBSD and Linux, but...). That's why iMacs and Windows PCs still sell faster than something free/cheap. And even if it is, is that any reason to not just dislike, but utterly hate a man? C'mon people it isn't worth it!
-Tim
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Well put Kirk! That's exactly what I though, it is truly sad that people aim all of this hate at Microsoft, when they aren't the first - and certainly won't be the last to charge more than a few bucks for an upgrade. Really when you think how much cheaper Wintel systems are vs. Mac systems or RISC Unix it doesn't seem so bad... -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
-----Original Message----- From: EXT-Moore, Kirk W [mailto:Kirk.Moore@PSS.Boeing.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:27 PM To: tbutler@uninetsolutions.com; SuSE Mailing List; 'Samy Elashmawy' Subject: RE: [SLE] Fundamental differences
Someone wrote:
Yep it was the win 95 upgrade poly that forced you to buy another copy of windows if you wanted any of the enhancements. I ended up waiting till win98 came out as by then I realy needed the fat32 support. That cost me 89.00 just cause I needed FAT32 suport. So yes I am still pissed off about it.
Kirk Writes in response..... I had to get off the floor, I was laughing so hard. You folks hate M$ so much that you cannot go look on thier web sites and download a free piece of software that did the convert to fat32. It was posted on the Microsoft Site for free download. I am sorry, but getting mad over something like that really amazes me. The upgrade policies for Microsoft may be stricter than most here would like, I do not mind paying 89.00 for software that I need. I paid 499.95 for a single user license of Microport... (anyone remember them). I have paid Sun's outrageous prices for software also... I had a Sun 3/280 with Eagle drives (at my house ;)), and paid Sun 900+ dollars for the tapes. So 89.00 seems cheap to me..... Remember SCO Unix, or XENIX. heheh Lets talk money and the foolish prices that we have paid... :)
It just tickles me.... It does....
-- Kirk Moore EPM - Release Management environments - STL's 425-965-6543 (desk) 425-797-9092 (pager)
Black holes are created when God divides by zero!
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