Kevanf1 wrote:

On 10/03/06, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:

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Hi,

I am upgrading my Linux box of SuSE 9.2 and would like to insert a LG DVD. Do the list users have any model number preferences or perhaps even a differnt make ie Samsung?

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I don't have any model numbers but I would go for LG over Samsung any day. In fact, I deliberately avoid Samsung products all together. Too many times I have had them fail. I have not had this with LG.

I'd avoid Yamaha. I got a scsi a few years back. Coincidentally we got two of the same at work (to run on NT). None of the three of them ever worked more than two percent of the time. All were sent back to Yamaha. Yamaha sent each of them back, saying they tested them and they were all fine. -- "This world ain't big enough for the both of us," said the big noema to the little noema.

ken wrote:

I'd avoid Yamaha. I got a scsi a few years back. Coincidentally we got two of the same at work (to run on NT). None of the three of them ever worked more than two percent of the time.

Just for balance - I'm not associated with Yamaha in any way :-) - I've got a Yamaha IDE CD burner; it's been working flawlessly for the last 4-5 years. /Per Jessen, Zürich

On 13/03/06, Doug McGarrett wrote:

At 06:38 PM 3/12/2006 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:

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ken wrote:

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I'd avoid Yamaha. I got a scsi a few years back. Coincidentally we got two of the same at work (to run on NT). None of the three of them ever worked more than two percent of the time.

Just for balance - I'm not associated with Yamaha in any way :-) - I've got a Yamaha IDE CD burner; it's been working flawlessly for the last 4-5 years.

/Per Jessen, Zürich

Yamaha makes wonderful acoustic pianos. They make (or made) a really good electronic equivalent of the Hammond organ. OTOH, I had one of their electronic keyboards, and I found it to be unimpressive, and gave it away. But they must be doing something right. I wonder how a piano company can make motorcycles and hard drives? Or is it the other way around: how a motorcycle company can make hard drives and pianos? I have a feeling that the technology must be there. I hope it is not poor manufacturing, as I have come to respect the Yamaha name.

--doug

I believe Yamaha actually started out as a musical instrument manufacturer. They progressed - diversified - into mechanical products such as motorcycles later. Possibly in response to the second world war, I stand to be corrected on that speculation though. If you check out the Yamaha logo on a motorcycle it is composed of three (if I remember correctly) tuning forks. As an aside, and with apologies for taking this further off topic, Kawasaki started out by making agricultural equipment... some may argue that they still do ;-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

On 13/03/06, Peter Nikolic wrote:

On Monday 13 March 2006 10:03, Kevanf1 wrote:

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On 13/03/06, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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At 06:38 PM 3/12/2006 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:

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ken wrote: snip

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Kawasaki started out by making agricultural equipment... some may argue that they still do ;-)

You will still have trouble finding anything to get the better of a Kawasaki Samuri 250 tripple note "Samuri" not "KH1" they were the newer version of the Samuri and a lot less of a bike could not pull the skin of a wet rice pudding where as the Samuri well need i say more even the Yamaha YPVS jobs could not catch the Samuri not a hope in hell .. :-) ...

Pete (still a biker at heart).

They were certainly quick off the mark. I had the Suzuki GT250 at that time.... less said the better. Though, a friend beat the pants off a Kawasaki 500 (4 stroke, twin cylinder job that I forget the actual model of) with my bike. Shame about the handling :-( I wrote mine off at 90mph....that was 26 years ago.... Kevan...also still a biker at heart ;-)

Kevanf1 wrote:

three (if I remember correctly) tuning forks. As an aside, and with apologies for taking this further off topic, Kawasaki started out by making agricultural equipment... some may argue that they still do ;-)

They make a fairly decent industrial robot, as long as you don't want it to do anything terribly fancy. Has a nice, gentle learning curve. However, you can't run Linux on it. :(

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Monday 13 March 2006 06:09, David McMillan wrote:

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Kevanf1 wrote:

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... Kawasaki started out by making agricultural equipment... some may argue that they still do ;-)

They make a fairly decent industrial robot, as long as you don't want it to do anything terribly fancy. Has a nice, gentle learning curve. However, you can't run Linux on it. :(

That sounds like a challenge...

Heh. It's a almost-completely proprietary firmware-based system, although supposedly the newer generations are actually running some kind of Windows-based system. I suppose it might be *possible,* but it's awfully expensive equipment to buy just to hack Linux onto it. Now, if you want a good industrial robot that's also a good Linux candidate, use a recent-generation Kuka (disclaimer -- I do work for the company). The KRC1 and KRC2 controllers are not only based almost entirely on standard PC architecture, they actually run VxWorks as their RTOS (and also run a version of Windows in parallel, using a split-memory architecture, for the user interface). The design is also heavily modularized, using mostly off-the-shelf components, so it's about the most potentially hackable of the major industrial robots, IMO. The really sticky points would be the very low-level interactions with the one purely-proprietary piece of hardware, the special interface card that executes most of the kinematics and hardware-based-RT functions in dedicated firmware. But, if OROCOS lives up to its promise, it might well be possible to bypass that card entirely and execute the system in an open-source environment. Be a heck of an undertaking, though....

On 14/03/06, scsijon wrote:

At 01:09 AM 14/03/2006, David McMillan wrote:

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Kevanf1 wrote:

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three (if I remember correctly) tuning forks. As an aside, and with apologies for taking this further off topic, Kawasaki started out by making agricultural equipment... some may argue that they still do ;-)

They make a fairly decent industrial robot, as long as you don't want it to do anything terribly fancy. Has a nice, gentle learning curve. However, you can't run Linux on it. :(

OT now

still do make, generators, ag-bikes, normal motor bikes, tractors (BIG ones) and the like

In an attempt to at least bring this thread back to some form of relevance :-))))) It surprises me that industrial robots don't run on Linux. The ones I have seen appear to have some form of Unix like operating system. I suppose there is simply no call to port Linux (SuSE or otherwise) to them. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 15:57 -0600, S Glasoe wrote:

On Friday 10 March 2006 12:15 pm, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:

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Hi,

I am upgrading my Linux box of SuSE 9.2 and would like to insert a LG DVD. Do the list users have any model number preferences or perhaps even a differnt make ie Samsung?

Don't forget www.CDFreaks.com. Lots of good info and links to manufacturer's websites as well as current firmware - official and 3rd party. Usually good info on the hardware as well with decent reviews, etc.

NEC makes very good CD/DVD drives as well.

I prefer LiteOn cdrw and dvdrw no issues or problems. Save on a deceased PIII mb which is replaced later this week. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/

On 16/03/06, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:

Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:

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Hi,

I am upgrading my Linux box of SuSE 9.2 and would like to insert a LG DVD. Do the list users have any model number preferences or perhaps even a differnt make ie Samsung?

As the original poster, please move this biking/agricultural equipment discussion go to the OT or chat list.

I am only currently looking for SuSE Linux hardware recommendations for DVD's in this thread.

I thank all the folk who have contributed but the original subject of the thread was nothing to do with biking or agricultural equipment or the modification thereof to run Linux. You are welcome to start your own thread on the OT list but lets please keep on topic.

Tnx Hylton

You are quite correct Hylton, I hope you and the other list members will accept my apology for my part in muddying the original thread. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR