This is just a short note to thank everyone who worked on 10.1 for their efforts, and to let you know of some of the specific improvements over 10.0 I personally very much appreciate. By way of background, my daily driver is an IBM R52 15" laptop with the Intel video chipset. This unit previously dual booted 10.0 and Windows XP. I used the Windows partition to install 10.1 with KDE. Anyone questioning whether it is worth installing 10.1 on similar hardware should have no doubt that they should. There are some very nice enhancements that make things easier for me. In the first instance, 10.0 couldn't handle my laptop's video well. I wound up writing a howto to get the 855resolution package working, along with manually patching the video BIOS, and manually editing xorg.conf just to get a screen as sharp as in Windows. Second, it was a good thing I knew how to use ifup/ifdown with 10.0, because roaming around with this laptop and using the built-in wireless required a lot of commandline work and cutting/pasting of WEP/WPA keys to get things going. So, I'm very pleased (and grateful) that NetworkManager works just as seamlesslessly as the IBM ThinkVantage Access Connections Manager under Windows that stored all my wireless and wired profiles, and automagically selected the correct profile to use wherever I was trying to connect, be it wired or wirelessly. I was also very pleased that the SuSE installer sussed out my 1400x1050 video correctly and configured 855resolution automagically behind the scenes, without any tweaking required on my part. At the risk of being overly critical, the installer configured everything for 96dpi (just like Windows...), so 12pt fonts on my display aren't actually 12pts in true size, but the screen is crisp and the fonts are sharp (much better than the default 1280x1024 under SuSE 10.0), and that's more than good enough for me. And hibernate to disk works right out of the box as well too. Running top right after the install convinced me that all that disk activity was Beagle indexing my hard drive and probably all of the U.S. phone records databases (that's another story...), but now that the indexes are complete things have quieted down considerably. The UI "seems" a little snappier than 10.0. I can't quantify that, and under 10.0 I had upgraded KDE to 3.5.2 from the supplementary tree. I confess I don't fully understand the inner workings of the YOU/SuSEWatcher replacement technology, but I'll get there eventually. I will want to add Packman and a few other non-SuSE repositories in the coming days, but there is no pressure to do this immediately. I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem. I do miss the GUI front-end to nmap, but the 4.03 GUI rpm from the nmap homepage installed fine. Overall, I haven't been this excited about a SuSE relase since 8.2 and 9.2. It's nice to see the high level of refinement I have historically seen only in the .2 releases appear in a .1 release. THANK YOU!!!!!! All the best, Mark -- _________________________________________________________ A Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC "We manage your network so you can manage your business" 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678 Web: http://www.rnome.com This email was sent from Reliable Networks of Maine LLC. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you suspect that you were not intended to receive it, please delete it and notify us as soon as possible. Thank you.
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 21:12 -0400, L. Mark Stone wrote:
I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem.
And can you now access usb devices from the guest OS ? It may not be SuSE's problem, but I do see this as SuSE's fault, because the patch was not necessary under 9.x and 10.0 and guest usb access worked without any host changes (whatever they might be). Otherwise, I agree that 10.1 is an improvement. Dave
Dave Barton wrote:
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 21:12 -0400, L. Mark Stone wrote:
I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem.
And can you now access usb devices from the guest OS ?
Just yesterday, there was a posting here that mount -t usbfs /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb helps. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany
On 5/16/06, L. Mark Stone
So, I'm very pleased (and grateful) that NetworkManager works just as seamlesslessly as the IBM ThinkVantage Access Connections Manager under Windows that stored all my wireless and wired profiles, and automagically selected the correct profile to use wherever I was trying to connect, be it wired or wirelessly.
thank goodness! ;-)
I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem.
what IS that patch? I have seen it mentioned several times with no explanation, and a google turns up cisco PIX firewall exceptions, or some such ... Peter
Quoting Peter Van Lone
I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem.
what IS that patch? I have seen it mentioned several times with no explanation, and a google turns up cisco PIX firewall exceptions, or some such ...
Peter, The any-any package is a very unofficial and unsupported, ostensibly private package that patches the vmware-config.pl script and some of the (I believe) *.o files for building the VMware kernel modules. The developer is is very active on the VMware company forums. Dave, The need for the any-any patch is due to the change in kernels between 10.0 and 10.1. It's not SuSE's fault; SuSE doesn't even include VMware in its distro anymore. VMware typically lags a few months in newer kernel releases. I don't use USB support in our virtual machines, so the problem is not an inconvenience for me. All the best, Mark -- _________________________________________________________ A Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC "We manage your network so you can manage your business" 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678 Web: http://www.rnome.com This email was sent from Reliable Networks of Maine LLC. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you suspect that you were not intended to receive it, please delete it and notify us as soon as possible. Thank you.
L. Mark Stone wrote:
Peter,
The any-any package is a very unofficial and unsupported, ostensibly =20 private package that patches the vmware-config.pl script and some of =20 the (I believe) *.o files for building the VMware kernel modules. The =20 developer is is very active on the VMware company forums.
Why is your email containing "=20" at the end of every line? Something strange is going on with your email program. -- Good day! ________________________________________ Christopher R. Carlen Principal Laser&Electronics Technologist Sandia National Laboratories PO Box 969 MS 9053 Livermore, CA 94550 USA crcarle@sandia.gov (925) 294-1562 (925) 294-1004 [fax]
* Chris Carlen
L. Mark Stone wrote:
The any-any package is a very unofficial and unsupported, ostensibly =20 private package that patches the vmware-config.pl script and some of =20 the (I believe) *.o files for building the VMware kernel modules. The =20 developer is is very active on the VMware company forums.
Why is your email containing "=20" at the end of every line? Something strange is going on with your email program.
It must be your local configuration. I see no problem here. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:35, Chris Carlen wrote:
L. Mark Stone wrote:
Peter,
The any-any package is a very unofficial and unsupported, ostensibly =20 private package that patches the vmware-config.pl script and some of =20 the (I believe) *.o files for building the VMware kernel modules. The =20 developer is is very active on the VMware company forums.
Why is your email containing "=20" at the end of every line? Something strange is going on with your email program.
Not getting the =20's here in *his* email. Just what you copied. Mayhaps there is a problem with *your* email program?
[Chris Carlen]
Why is your email containing "=20" at the end of every line? Something strange is going on with your email program.
The regular =HH that we see in some email are indicative that it is coded in quoted-printable. Now, there should be a few MIME headers at the start of the message describing this fact. So, either the headers are missing or inadequate at the originating end, or the MIME handling is lacking at the receiving end. The correct way of sorting out which is which is through scrutiny of email headers, and some knowledge of the MIME standards to judge if the standards are followed. Each =HH, where H is an hexadecimal digit, holds for a single byte having the value represented by the hexadecimal digits. =20, in particular, is the coding of an ASCII space. Now, having a space at end of each line is usually indicative of flowed format (yet another standard!) at the originating end. This format should be announced in the headers as well -- for example, this very message I'm writing uses flowed format. Flowing may or may not occur at the receiving end depending on the capabilities of the mail reader in use, but flowing format is designed so it does not matter much. -- François Pinard http://pinard.progiciels-bpi.ca
Quoting Peter Van Lone
I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem.
what IS that patch? I have seen it mentioned several times with no explanation, and a google turns up cisco PIX firewall exceptions, or some such ...
Peter, The any-any package is a very unofficial and unsupported, ostensibly private package that patches the vmware-config.pl script and some of the (I believe) *.o files for building the VMware kernel modules. The developer is is very active on the VMware company forums. Dave, The need for the any-any patch is due to the change in kernels between 10.0 and 10.1. It's not SuSE's fault; SuSE doesn't even include VMware in its distro anymore. VMware typically lags a few months in newer kernel releases. I don't use USB support in our virtual machines, so the problem is not an inconvenience for me. All the best, Mark -- _________________________________________________________ A Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC "We manage your network so you can manage your business" 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678 Web: http://www.rnome.com This email was sent from Reliable Networks of Maine LLC. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you suspect that you were not intended to receive it, please delete it and notify us as soon as possible. Thank you.
Peter Van Lone wrote:
On 5/16/06, L. Mark Stone
wrote: I did need to run the 101 any-any patch to get VMware Workstation to install, but that's not SuSE's problem.
what IS that patch?
It is a patch to adapt VMware kernel modules to SUSE kernels (or any kernels, for that matter). ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware/ Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany
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Bruce Marshall
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Chris Carlen
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Dave Barton
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eharrison@tampabay.rr.com
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François Pinard
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Joachim Schrod
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L. Mark Stone
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Patrick Shanahan
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Peter Van Lone