This morning I got the same: (two of them...) Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@one-socialist-africa.org (Mail Delivery System) To: jonclausen@get2net.dk This is the Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program at host station1.one-socialist-africa.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program : Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found The weird thing is that the message *was* delivered (to suse-linux-e@suse.com) and shows up on the list...? What's going on? Is this some kind of socialist conspiracy? ;-) On Thursday 05 April 2001 10:00, you wrote:

Hi,

now and then I'm getting odd "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" messages that have something to do with this list. Sample piece attached below. This morning I got 7 of them, all from the same source.

Am I doing something wrong with my mail program (Netscape on Win$/Kmail on Linux), or what's going on here?

I normally use Reply All and edit the recipient address into only To:suse-linux-e@suse.com

TIA, Gudmund

Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:21:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@one-socialist-africa.org (Mail Delivery System) To: fta@algonet.se

This is the Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program at host station1.one-socialist-africa.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program

: Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

Reporting-MTA: dns; station1.one-socialist-africa.org Arrival-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:15:11 -0400 (EDT)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; sfbarbee@localhost.one-socialist-africa.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

Subject: Re: [SLE] Updating with Yast2 vs Yast1 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:01:00 +0200 From: Gudmund Areskoug Organization: Free Trade Associates To: SuSE listserve References: 1

Had two msg sent yesterday back, the same way. Stefano scsijon wrote:

had 2 myself, maybe someone has set a SuSe Server up on the net and got it not quite right first time, then fixed problem (which is why you can't mail them back) rather than a spammer / intruder.

my 2 bits / hoping scsijon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Clausen" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Strange list-related messages

...

This morning I got the same: (two of them...)

Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@one-socialist-africa.org (Mail Delivery System) To: jonclausen@get2net.dk

This is the Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program at host station1.one-socialist-africa.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program

: Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

The weird thing is that the message *was* delivered (to suse-linux-e@suse.com) and shows up on the list...?

What's going on?

Is this some kind of socialist conspiracy? ;-)

On Thursday 05 April 2001 10:00, you wrote:

...

Hi,

now and then I'm getting odd "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" messages that have something to do with this list. Sample piece attached below. This morning I got 7 of them, all from the same source.

Am I doing something wrong with my mail program (Netscape on Win$/Kmail on Linux), or what's going on here?

I normally use Reply All and edit the recipient address into only To:suse-linux-e@suse.com

TIA, Gudmund

Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:21:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@one-socialist-africa.org (Mail Delivery System) To: fta@algonet.se

This is the Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program at host station1.one-socialist-africa.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program

: Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

Reporting-MTA: dns; station1.one-socialist-africa.org Arrival-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:15:11 -0400 (EDT)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; sfbarbee@localhost.one-socialist-africa.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

Subject: Re: [SLE] Updating with Yast2 vs Yast1 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:01:00 +0200 From: Gudmund Areskoug Organization: Free Trade Associates To: SuSE listserve References: 1

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

On Thursday 05 April 2001 10:11, Jon Clausen wrote: <snip>

What's going on?

SuSE's listserver 'bounces' the mails you send to the list to every subscriber. It edits the header to make it seem as though you personally mailed every person on the list. If someone is subscribed with an invalid address, you will get the error messages.

Is this some kind of socialist conspiracy? ;-)

Isn't linux a socialist conspiracy? :) //Anders

-----Original Message----- From: Gudmund Areskoug [mailto:fta@algonet.se] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:23 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Strange list-related messages

<snip>

...

...

Is this some kind of socialist conspiracy? ;-)

Isn't linux a socialist conspiracy? :)

Socialism is when NOBODY owns anything ('The State' is a fictional character), yet a small group of people who have convinced everyone else that they should run the show CONTROL everything with an iron fist. With Linux, EVERYBODY owns it, yet no one has absolute CONTROL over it, so no, it is actually the opposite of socialism in action.

I thought McCarthy was dead ? ;).

Yes... Dead right... Charles

Hi, I also received this kind of messages 6 times.... :( Jonathan On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, Gudmund Areskoug wrote:

Hi,

now and then I'm getting odd "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" messages that have something to do with this list. Sample piece attached below. This morning I got 7 of them, all from the same source.

Am I doing something wrong with my mail program (Netscape on Win$/Kmail on Linux), or what's going on here?

I normally use Reply All and edit the recipient address into only To:suse-linux-e@suse.com

TIA, Gudmund

Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:21:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@one-socialist-africa.org (Mail Delivery System) To: fta@algonet.se

This is the Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program at host station1.one-socialist-africa.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.1 (i386) program

: Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

Reporting-MTA: dns; station1.one-socialist-africa.org Arrival-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:15:11 -0400 (EDT)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; sfbarbee@localhost.one-socialist-africa.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Name service error for domain localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found

Subject: Re: [SLE] Updating with Yast2 vs Yast1 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:01:00 +0200 From: Gudmund Areskoug Organization: Free Trade Associates To: SuSE listserve References: 1

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq -- Jonathan J. Terbio

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:48:38 -0400 Corvin Russell wrote:

I received the message twice, then I received a dozen messages about the two messages, then I wrote a message about all those messages. I think I will receive this very message shortly. After that I will probably receive some more messages about this message and the other messages about the messages I received about someone not getting their messages.

I think we get the message. Geoff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, Does anyone know if it is possible to install SuSE 7.1 on a machine that has not got an A: drive or a bootable CDROM? The machine in question has already got SuSE 6.1 installed and I can mount the 7.1 CD's, but can't work out how to start an installation? Cheers Phil

From: Rick Green

Hi,

...

Does anyone know if it is possible to install SuSE 7.1 on a machine that has not got an A: drive or a bootable CDROM?

As root, simply type 'yast'. Select your CD-ROM as source media, and it'll mount it for you. It'll almost immediately tell you that you need a newer version of yast, so it'll install that rpm only, then quit. Start the process over again. This time it'll let you upgrade the base system packages. After a reboot, it'll install the rest of the packages.

That works, thanks a lot. It would be good if Yast had a 'real' option to do this. Cheers Phil

On Thursday 05 April 2001 10:13, Jon Clausen wrote:

O.K. I don't think I sent you any messages Corvin, but I assume it's because people *just* reply to messages, not checking where they're going?

Anyway: Would it not be feasible for postmaster@suse (or whoever) to set it up so invalid adresses get filtered out of the adresslist? Or rather: I presume it's already set up, so maybe the question would be "why don't it work in this case?"

Because the TO: field contains email address that don't require passing though SuSE's maillist server.

<flamebait> I mean, this is ridiculous... When you sign up for the list, a valid email-adress is mandatory, is it not? IMO it should be. And don't new subscribers get verification, by email? And if *that* one bounces, surely it makes no sense adding that adress on the list??? I mean - I do *not* want to set up filters for this... </flamebait>

my .005$

BTW: Any luck Jeffrey?

Jon Clausen

On Thursday 05 April 2001 16:58, you wrote:

...

On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:48:38 -0400

Corvin Russell wrote:

...

I received the message twice, then I received a dozen messages about the two messages, then I wrote a message about all those messages. I think I will receive this very message shortly. After that I will probably receive some more messages about this message and the other messages about the messages I received about someone not getting their messages.

I think we get the message.

Geoff

_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:00:56 +0200, Gudmund Areskoug said: | : Name service error | for domain | localhost.one-socialist-africa.org: Host not found | The have misconfigured postfix on their mailserver. I performs a DNS lookup for localhost, which clearly fails here. Someone should wake the guy up... -- ---------------------------------------------------- Koos Pol T: +31 20 3116122 Systems Administrator F: +31 20 3116200 Compuware Europe B.V. E: koos_pol@nl.compuware.com Amsterdam PGP public key available