--- Anders Johansson
I think you'll find that lp2 is actually an alias for 'auto' (or if it isn't, look in /etc/printcap. There will be a printer defined with one of its aliases called auto). The purpose of this is to determine which type of file it has been sent, and use the proper driver.
Right, I have tried to use the "auto" printer. I'm attracted to the promise of automatic printing!
I have to ask you, how is your printer set up? Do you have the printer driver installed in win2k, and to print a text file you send it to the printer called ASCII?
No, it was a mad/bad joke about the varied printers showing up as selectable options.
Well, if this is what you do, don't!. The HP printer drivers will take any file you have, ascii text, jpg or whatever, and turn it into its own proprietary format, while the ASCII printer in linux expects a pure ascii file. This is very likely why you're getting garbage on the printer. It is the HP printer format you're seeing.
I install the printer as a HP 6MP on Linux and then I install 6MP drivers on w2k. I think I choose the auto printer, but for some reason PCL was sent- resulting in the explosion of paper/symbols.
What you should do when printing from win2k is use either the raw printer, which will take anything sent to it and transmit it unchanged to the printer, which, since it's HPs own format, it will understand, or use the 'auto' driver, which will choose the 'raw' driver for you.
I just uninstalled lpr and installed CUPS. I left the name "lp" in CUPS and specified the "lp" printer from w2k. So far it's working. Of course I can't see the printer at all from my Macs, but at least there's some progress! Go CUPS! ===== Daniel Woodard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
Just an FYI. I was in Barnes and Noble tonight and they have a 2 inch thick book on CUPS for those who are interested. I check it out..looks pretty cool. I guess I'll get it when I replace my trusty HP600C :) -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
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Who on earth is AE? Do you believe that?
On Saturday 10 November 2001 21:49, Doug McGarrett wrote:
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Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
Who on earth is AE? Do you believe that?
Albert Einstein. He wasn't condeming 'Technological progress", just comparing it to an axe when it misused. Like explosives when used by the Unibomber, commerical airliners when used by radical Islamic fundamentalists, anything when used by Saadam Husian. JLK
* Jerry Kreps (jk05308@alltel.net) [011111 06:38]: ->On Saturday 10 November 2001 21:49, Doug McGarrett wrote: ->> Quoth: ->> -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- ->> ->> >Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ->> >-----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- ->> >"Technological progress is like an axe in the ->> > hands of a pathological criminal" -AE ->> ->> Who on earth is AE? Do you believe that? -> ->Albert Einstein. ->He wasn't condeming 'Technological progress", just comparing it to an ->axe when it misused. Like explosives when used by the Unibomber, ->commerical airliners when used by radical Islamic fundamentalists, ->anything when used by Saadam Husian. Ummm..Jerry. I know that. :) -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
On Saturday 10 November 2001 22:44, Ben Rosenberg wrote: | Just an FYI. I was in Barnes and Noble tonight and they have a 2 | inch thick book on CUPS for those who are interested. I check it | out..looks pretty cool. I guess I'll get it when I replace my | trusty HP600C :) this is, alas, not necessarily a good thing. it plays into the hands of those who argue that linux is unusably complicated. i mean -- a two-inch-thick book about the frigging *printer driver*! -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand.
--- dep
this is, alas, not necessarily a good thing. it plays into the hands of those who argue that linux is unusably complicated. i mean -- a two-inch-thick book about the frigging *printer driver*!
It's the reality. Printing has driven me up a wall for a long time now. I have a bit of a tough set-up (w2k, MacOS9 and MacOSX) and I print office documents, .eps artwork and pictures. Even though I've long used Linux for file sharing (w2k and Mac) I've always given up on the idea of using Linux as a print server. My biggest problem under LPRng and its ilk was that even though I set up a 6MP (a postscript printer) the computer was still still trying to use ghostscript and if I printed a postscript file (.ai Illustrator on Mac especially) a ton of wasted paper came out. You actually get mad when you want to print one lousy page and the printer is rippping 8ppm of waste. I literally have to kill the printer and reboot the computer as the fastest way to stop it. What made this worse was all the docs said "use a postscipt printer" for best results, which I was. I could always get the printer to work somewhat, it was just getting it reliable under varied platforms that caused me mental anguish. I've only had CUPS running since last night, and it's not perfect yet (I get access denied on w2k even though it prints fine) and my HP6MP shows up as a color printer on Mac even though it's a b/w laser and I can't find the toggle on the Mac side, but it's working good enough and I will slowly try to tweak the anomolies out. Do I get crazy and try to print an envelope? Could I handle the possible failure of this essential task? If I have my history right, was it not Stallman's rage over a printer driver that got this whole GNU thing started? Fitting that it's still a core problem. ===== Daniel Woodard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
On Sunday 11 November 2001 09:09, you wrote:
On Saturday 10 November 2001 22:44, Ben Rosenberg wrote: | Just an FYI. I was in Barnes and Noble tonight and they have a 2 | inch thick book on CUPS for those who are interested. I check it | out..looks pretty cool. I guess I'll get it when I replace my | trusty HP600C :)
this is, alas, not necessarily a good thing. it plays into the hands of those who argue that linux is unusably complicated. i mean -- a two-inch-thick book about the frigging *printer driver*!
I have the book, too - and I consider it a good one. It was written for Unix and not specifically for Linux. It's much more than a book about a 'printer driver.' CUPS=Common Unix Printing ***System*** FWIW Regards, Glenn -- Glenn Williams - n0hn@abq-nm.com Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional
On Sunday 11 November 2001 10:09, dep wrote:
On Saturday 10 November 2001 22:44, Ben Rosenberg wrote: | Just an FYI. I was in Barnes and Noble tonight and they have a 2 | inch thick book on CUPS for those who are interested. I check it | out..looks pretty cool. I guess I'll get it when I replace my | trusty HP600C :)
this is, alas, not necessarily a good thing. it plays into the hands of those who argue that linux is unusably complicated. i mean -- a two-inch-thick book about the frigging *printer driver*!
Hey, Dep, not necessarily bad, either. Knowledge is POWER! Better too much info than too little! That is one of the VIRTUES of Linux. I have a 2" thick book on the Linux kernel, in FOLIO edition! The Linux Complete Command Reference is nearly THREE inches thick, and it doesn't cover ALL the esoteric switches coders have put into their programs. Of course, with a modern distro like SuSE, CUPS setup is automatic 99.99% of the time. I would really be concerned if the number of Linux books available at local and online books stores started disappearing, out of proportion to the rest of the computer industry retractions. Jerry
* dep (dep@drippingwithirony.com) [011111 08:10]: ->On Saturday 10 November 2001 22:44, Ben Rosenberg wrote: ->| Just an FYI. I was in Barnes and Noble tonight and they have a 2 ->| inch thick book on CUPS for those who are interested. I check it ->| out..looks pretty cool. I guess I'll get it when I replace my ->| trusty HP600C :) -> ->this is, alas, not necessarily a good thing. it plays into the hands ->of those who argue that linux is unusably complicated. i mean -- a ->two-inch-thick book about the frigging *printer driver*! Why? It's for CUPS hence Common "UNIX" Printing System..which works under Solaris, AIX, HP-UX and many other flavors. It not only discribes how to setup end user printing..it discribes print servers ..I seem to remember that one guy want his Linux box to serve his Windows box, MacOS9 box and his OSX box. This is no different the 100's of books I saw in the section catering to morons..the whole Internet for Dummies section. I wish dummies would give me back my Internet and go back to gardening on Sundays instead of surfing the net ;) Books are good..no matter what. They provide knowledge. I guess I'm just getting old. But I am caring less and less about everyones preconcieved notions that we have to cater to the lowest common denominator. If we made it our mission to stamp stupid where we find it we may..just may reach that silly blissful picture of the future we see on Star Trek..but alas even in that story they had to go through WWWIII to have reach that point. Knowledge is good. :) -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
->made it our mission to stamp stupid where we find it we may..just may And typos don't count as "stupidity". *grin* I really do think I'm getting old..my typing has gone to hell ;) -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
On Sunday 11 November 2001 15:15, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
->made it our mission to stamp stupid where we find it we may..just may
And typos don't count as "stupidity". *grin* I really do think I'm getting old..my typing has gone to hell ;)
-----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
You're not getting older, Ben, it's just that your fingers can't keep up with your brain. I have the same problem! :) Jerry
On Sunday 11 November 2001 01:15 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
->made it our mission to stamp stupid where we find it we may..just may
And typos don't count as "stupidity". *grin* I really do think I'm getting old..my typing has gone to hell ;)
jusdt been tihnking the dsame thing mylsef :) Matt
this is, alas, not necessarily a good thing. it plays into the hands of those who argue that linux is unusably complicated. i mean -- a two-inch-thick book about the frigging *printer driver*!
Yep, but conversely having it too easy does not guarantee against breakage. And when that occurs I'd like to fix it (or at least have the opportunity to do so). Matt
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