Suse 9.2 mini install ISO - How to use FTP install with DSL
I downloaded the Suse 9.2 mini install ISO. I have a DSL connection. In order for me to do an FTP install, I need to establish ( log in ) to my DSL provider, so that I can then select the FTP option to do the install. Is this possible? Can I manually make my DSL connection after booting from the ISO CD ?
On Saturday 29 January 2005 21:44, John Bailo wrote:
I downloaded the Suse 9.2 mini install ISO.
I have a DSL connection.
In order for me to do an FTP install, I need to establish ( log in ) to my
DSL
provider, so that I can then select the FTP option to do the install.
Is this possible?
Can I manually make my DSL connection after booting from the ISO CD ? Installation : Boot from SUSE-Linux-9.2-mini-installation CD Choose : Kernel Modules Choose : Load Network Card Modules Select network card driver << you'll have to find out which driver is needed for your network card>> After going back to the beginning : Choose : Start Installation or System Choose : Start Installation or Update Choose the source medium : Network Choose the network protocol : FTP Automatic configuration via DHCP : yes IP address of FTP server : e.g. 195.129.111.8 (ftp.eu.uu.net) or any other mirror Use username/password : No Use HTTP proxy : No Enter directory on the server : e.g. /pub/linux/suse/i386/9.2 (for ftp.eu.uu.net) Follow installation instructions (just like when installing from DVD)
Good luck !!!! -- Jan Elders the Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~jrme/ "Home of the Network Acronyms"
Yes, but how does the Suse ISO know how to log into my Earthlink DSL connection ? Where do I specify my Earthlink username, password ? I have tried the procedure you specified below, and it hangs on DHCP -- because how can it possibly do a DHCP if it's not logged on to my ISP ( Earthlink's) network? Have you actually done a DSL install yourself and verified the procedure below? That is the crux of my question. On Sunday 30 January 2005 07:07, Jan Elders wrote:
On Saturday 29 January 2005 21:44, John Bailo wrote:
I downloaded the Suse 9.2 mini install ISO.
I have a DSL connection.
In order for me to do an FTP install, I need to establish ( log in ) to my
DSL
provider, so that I can then select the FTP option to do the install.
Is this possible?
Can I manually make my DSL connection after booting from the ISO CD ?
Installation : Boot from SUSE-Linux-9.2-mini-installation CD Choose : Kernel Modules Choose : Load Network Card Modules Select network card driver << you'll have to find out which driver is needed for your network card>> After going back to the beginning : Choose : Start Installation or System Choose : Start Installation or Update Choose the source medium : Network Choose the network protocol : FTP Automatic configuration via DHCP : yes IP address of FTP server : e.g. 195.129.111.8 (ftp.eu.uu.net) or any other mirror Use username/password : No Use HTTP proxy : No Enter directory on the server : e.g. /pub/linux/suse/i386/9.2 (for ftp.eu.uu.net) Follow installation instructions (just like when installing from DVD)
Good luck !!!!
-- Jan Elders the Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~jrme/ "Home of the Network Acronyms"
How can you login if you don't have an address? DHCP will come first ALWAYS. How does your DSL require you to login? How do you normally boot and start surfing? e.g. Do you have to bring up a browser and login? B-)_ On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:44 pm, John Bailo wrote:
Yes, but how does the Suse ISO know how to log into my Earthlink DSL connection ?
Where do I specify my Earthlink username, password ?
I have tried the procedure you specified below, and it hangs on DHCP -- because how can it possibly do a DHCP if it's not logged on to my ISP ( Earthlink's) network?
Have you actually done a DSL install yourself and verified the procedure below?
That is the crux of my question.
On Sunday 30 January 2005 07:07, Jan Elders wrote:
On Saturday 29 January 2005 21:44, John Bailo wrote:
I downloaded the Suse 9.2 mini install ISO.
I have a DSL connection.
In order for me to do an FTP install, I need to establish ( log in ) to my
DSL
provider, so that I can then select the FTP option to do the install.
Is this possible?
Can I manually make my DSL connection after booting from the ISO CD ?
Installation : Boot from SUSE-Linux-9.2-mini-installation CD Choose : Kernel Modules Choose : Load Network Card Modules Select network card driver << you'll have to find out which driver is needed for your network card>> After going back to the beginning : Choose : Start Installation or System Choose : Start Installation or Update Choose the source medium : Network Choose the network protocol : FTP Automatic configuration via DHCP : yes IP address of FTP server : e.g. 195.129.111.8 (ftp.eu.uu.net) or any other mirror Use username/password : No Use HTTP proxy : No Enter directory on the server : e.g. /pub/linux/suse/i386/9.2 (for ftp.eu.uu.net) Follow installation instructions (just like when installing from DVD)
Good luck !!!!
-- Jan Elders the Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~jrme/ "Home of the Network Acronyms"
Brad, On Monday 31 January 2005 07:21, Brad Bourn wrote:
How can you login if you don't have an address?
DHCP will come first ALWAYS.
Not necessarily. For one thing, not all ISPs even use DHCP. I have static addressing from mine. Most likely John B.'s ISP uses PPPoE, which has link-level authentication (just as does dial-up PPP).
How does your DSL require you to login?
How do you normally boot and start surfing? e.g. Do you have to bring up a browser and login?
B
Randall Schulz
right, AND IF you use DHCP, IT WILL always come first. B- On Monday 31 January 2005 11:12 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Brad,
On Monday 31 January 2005 07:21, Brad Bourn wrote:
How can you login if you don't have an address?
DHCP will come first ALWAYS.
Not necessarily. For one thing, not all ISPs even use DHCP. I have static addressing from mine. Most likely John B.'s ISP uses PPPoE, which has link-level authentication (just as does dial-up PPP).
How does your DSL require you to login?
How do you normally boot and start surfing? e.g. Do you have to bring up a browser and login?
B
Randall Schulz
Brad, On Monday 31 January 2005 10:18, Brad Bourn wrote:
right, AND IF you use DHCP, IT WILL always come first.
Please don't shout. The fact that John B. said he needs to log in pretty much implies he's not using DHCP but rather is using PPPoE.
B-
RRS
I wasn't shouting (the whole sentence was not capital) I was stressing specific words, no dis-respect. This is EXACTLY what I'm trying to get to the bottom of with the OP. I have seen ISP's that if they notice a MAC address change, they will disable DNS, (basically point EVERYTHING to their authentication page) until you validate yourself, then it turns DNS back on. I haven't used PPPoE or seen a provider myself require link level logins for basic network connection to the interenet, It is almost always the MAC, MODEM address, or BRIDGE address. Instead of critiquing me, how bout some help for the OP? If it is PPPoE, as you suggest, what would you do? B-) On Monday 31 January 2005 11:28 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Brad,
On Monday 31 January 2005 10:18, Brad Bourn wrote:
right, AND IF you use DHCP, IT WILL always come first.
Please don't shout.
The fact that John B. said he needs to log in pretty much implies he's not using DHCP but rather is using PPPoE.
B-
RRS
Brad, On Monday 31 January 2005 10:36, Brad Bourn wrote:
...
Instead of critiquing me, how bout some help for the OP?
There's not much more to offer until we get more information from him.
If it is PPPoE, as you suggest, what would you do?
I don't know. I've never had to use it.
B
Randall Schulz
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 13:28, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Brad,
On Monday 31 January 2005 10:18, Brad Bourn wrote:
right, AND IF you use DHCP, IT WILL always come first.
Please don't shout.
The fact that John B. said he needs to log in pretty much implies he's not using DHCP but rather is using PPPoE.
I use PPPoE to connect to my provider and get an address using DHCP from my provider. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Brad Bourn wrote:
How can you login if you don't have an address?
I can't...that's the whole question of this thread.
DHCP will come first ALWAYS.
Yes. Agreed. Now tell me how during a mini ISO installation, I can log in to my DSL connection.
How does your DSL require you to login?
I use the built in thing on Suse 9.1
How do you normally boot and start surfing? e.g. Do you have to bring up a browser and login?
No, I configured it to automatically connect. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005
John Bailo wrote:
Brad Bourn wrote:
How can you login if you don't have an address?
I can't...that's the whole question of this thread.
DHCP will come first ALWAYS.
Yes. Agreed. Now tell me how during a mini ISO installation, I can log in to my DSL connection.
How does your DSL require you to login?
I use the built in thing on Suse 9.1
How do you normally boot and start surfing? e.g. Do you have to bring up a browser and login?
No, I configured it to automatically connect.
I also use PPPoE and have been reading this thread closely, because I wanted to go for an FTP install as well! Now, this isn't related directly with the FTP install, but with the DHCP issue. I've configured the n/w interface to come up on boot. It doesn't get an address from DHCP. shows me failed. Yet, when KDE starts (im using runlevel 5, so automatically), Kinternet shows to be "connected". My friend uses a PPPoE connection as well. He uses Mandrake 10.0 and the interfaces come up fine on boot! Regards, Mrugesh Karnik
* Mrugesh Karnik
I also use PPPoE and have been reading this thread closely, because I wanted to go for an FTP install as well!
Now, this isn't related directly with the FTP install, but with the DHCP issue.
I've configured the n/w interface to come up on boot. It doesn't get an address from DHCP. shows me failed. Yet, when KDE starts (im using runlevel 5, so automatically), Kinternet shows to be "connected".
As does mine, but aiui, dhcp is performed via the router ?? # rcnetwork restart Shutting down network interfaces: eth0 done Setting up network interfaces: lo done eth0 (DHCP) failed but I *am* connected.
My friend uses a PPPoE connection as well. He uses Mandrake 10.0 and the interfaces come up fine on boot!
possibly a similar situation? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
No offense guys. But this thread has gone completely OT. I'm discussing how to do a 9.2 upgrade using DSL and the mini ISO -- and how to get my DSL to connect during the mini ISO install, so that it can then DHCP and connect to an FTP site. I have been able to use the mini ISO on a corporate network, where it's already connection. At this point, I'm going to open my wallet and buy a DVD +/- drive tonight ( $70 ) so I can burn the complete DVD. It seems like the only way to get the ISO upgrade to work with my configuration!
Two solutions have been mentioned. 1.) Copy DVD/CD to harddrive and install like ftp at work. (you can bring your computer into work and copy from network drive or install from work also) 2.) If you going to spend $$, get a linksys router and configure it to use PPPoE & DHCP to connect your DSL, and never have to worry about this issue again with anything( e.g. Xbox, PS2, guest pc, wireless AP, appliances, etc.) There are many ways to get SuSE installed. It is the PPPoE issue that I see your having with the ftp install. I haven't used PPPoE before, so I'm no help there, except I KNOW that these routers can do it. (there is probably a way to do it with SuSE too, just don't know myself) B-) On Monday 31 January 2005 01:10 pm, john bailo wrote:
No offense guys.
But this thread has gone completely OT.
I'm discussing how to do a 9.2 upgrade using DSL and the mini ISO -- and how to get my DSL to connect during the mini ISO install, so that it can then DHCP and connect to an FTP site.
I have been able to use the mini ISO on a corporate network, where it's already connection.
At this point, I'm going to open my wallet and buy a DVD +/- drive tonight ( $70 ) so I can burn the complete DVD.
It seems like the only way to get the ISO upgrade to work with my configuration!
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 15:10, john bailo wrote:
No offense guys.
But this thread has gone completely OT.
I'm discussing how to do a 9.2 upgrade using DSL and the mini ISO -- and how to get my DSL to connect during the mini ISO install, so that it can then DHCP and connect to an FTP site.
I have been able to use the mini ISO on a corporate network, where it's already connection.
At this point, I'm going to open my wallet and buy a DVD +/- drive tonight ( $70 ) so I can burn the complete DVD.
It seems like the only way to get the ISO upgrade to work with my configuration!
John, Although this will help you for now you may also consider buying a cheap broadband router (Linksys has one with a 4 port switch that you can probably buy for under $30US and would provide the same FTP connection you have at work. I have been using a Linksys router for over 4 years with my DSL connection and have had no problems, it has actually solved many connection problems. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Sunday 30 January 2005 23:44, John Bailo wrote:
Yes, but how does the Suse ISO know how to log into my Earthlink DSL connection ?
Where do I specify my Earthlink username, password ?
I have tried the procedure you specified below, and it hangs on DHCP -- because how can it possibly do a DHCP if it's not logged on to my ISP ( Earthlink's) network?
Have you actually done a DSL install yourself and verified the procedure below?
That is the crux of my question.
Yes, I did the installation successfully last week exactly as described below, but .......... I do have a fixed fiber connection. So : no need to log in for me. The DHCP request in my case is resolved by my own fiber-attached router, the router itself has a fixed IP-address toward the ISP. Sorry, I wouldn't know how to proceed in your case. :-(
On Sunday 30 January 2005 07:07, Jan Elders wrote:
On Saturday 29 January 2005 21:44, John Bailo wrote:
I downloaded the Suse 9.2 mini install ISO. I have a DSL connection. In order for me to do an FTP install, I need to establish ( log in ) to my DSL provider, so that I can then select the FTP option to do the install. Is this possible? Can I manually make my DSL connection after booting from the ISO CD ?
Installation : Boot from SUSE-Linux-9.2-mini-installation CD Choose : Kernel Modules Choose : Load Network Card Modules Select network card driver << you'll have to find out which driver is needed for your network card>> After going back to the beginning : Choose : Start Installation or System Choose : Start Installation or Update Choose the source medium : Network Choose the network protocol : FTP Automatic configuration via DHCP : yes IP address of FTP server : e.g. 195.129.111.8 (ftp.eu.uu.net) or any other mirror Use username/password : No Use HTTP proxy : No Enter directory on the server : e.g. /pub/linux/suse/i386/9.2 (for ftp.eu.uu.net) Follow installation instructions (just like when installing from DVD)
-- Jan Elders the Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~jrme/ "Home of the Network Acronyms"
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