Craig Millar schrieb:

smart --help - nothing relating to source packages returned smart install --help - much the same

soeren@linux:~> for i in update install reinstall upgrade remove check fix download search query info stats channel priority mirror flag; do smart $i --help ; done | grep -i source soeren@linux:~> Nothing about source-packages in smart-doku... => seems to be impossible :-( cheers, Soeren

Craig Millar schrieb:

On 27/10/05 18:19 +0200, Sören Wengerowsky wrote:

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soeren@linux:~> for i in update install reinstall upgrade remove check fix download search query info stats channel priority mirror flag; do smart $i --help ; done | grep -i source soeren@linux:~>

Great! I was thinking of something like this, didn't get round to it in the end.

I found it here: http://www.linux-club.de/viewtopic.php?t=44887 (the last post). If you've problems with the german there, i say you that he says it can be converted to a real man-page using txt2man http://mvertes.free.fr/ #!/bin/bash if [ -e smart-cmd.txt ]; then rm -f smart-cmd.txt fi smart --help >> smart-cmd.txt echo "----------------" >> smart-cmd.txt echo "----------------" >> smart-cmd.txt for i in update install reinstall upgrade remove check fix download \ search query info stats \ channel priority mirror flag; do smart $i --help >> smart-cmd.txt echo "----------------" >> smart-cmd.txt echo "----------------" >> smart-cmd.txt done very simple, but useful ;-) cheers, Soeren

On 28/10/05 00:51 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:

Craig Millar wrote:

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On 27/10/05 18:19 +0200, Sören Wengerowsky wrote:

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Nothing about source-packages in smart-doku... => seems to be impossible :-( My point entirely. Am looking through the source code for a hint or two - none as yet. Indeed, doesn't seem to be supported as of now. Remember, it's 0.40 ;)

Of course - that's why my first mail asked if it was possible "yet"!

Please file a bug on the smart tracker, or have a nice chat with the author, Gustavo Niemeyer. He's very often in #smart on freenode (IRC). He's a very nice guy, so be kind to him and he'll be helpful ;)

I placed a wish on the tracker. As I wrote there, this is non-essential but very convenient. Praps this conversation was best for the smart mailing list, but it's got such a low throughput it seems my questions will be answered faster and more thoroughly here.

Craig, you also wrote:

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And it will download and install the sources/spec files, etc in /usr/src/packages.

That would be a little more complex to do with smart, as it completely abstracts the underlying package management.

Hmmm.. I did wonder about that... Agreed, more complex than it would at first seem.

cheers

Thanks Craig

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mozzi wrote:

On Thursday 27 October 2005 17:59, Craig Millar wrote:

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On 27/10/05 10:07 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Is it possible yet in smart to install a source package?

* Craig Millar [10-27-05 07:18]: the answer to your question and a lot more information may be obtained from the command-line via: smart --help This list is starting to tick me off a little! The days of a bunch of old hackers that think they are superior are over and I must admit that if someone gave me an answer like that I would also get my back up.

Indeed, it wasn't very helpful.

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You don't say. Except that it's not immediately apparent how to install a source package, at least not to me. This proves my point nicely! smart --help - nothing relating to source packages returned smart install --help - much the same And here my friend you are being made out as a complete ass! You say go read ^^^^^^^^^^^^ (1) the docs and then you don't do it yourself? Of course there is an option to install from a url, but then I may as well download the source package and rpm it myself.

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if your do not find your answer, please ask again. Still here, question unanswered. Thanks *so* much for your assistance. So all that happened here was a user asked a question, got abused and still has the problem. Sorry guys that is not how it works, I asked my first question earlier in the week and the first answer I got was a link to a spelling rule! For crying in a bucket!

Agreed, was a bit of bashing.

If this is the way people are going to behave on this list you may as well spare yourself the pain and change to fedora now, no one will want to come here to ask questions and rather go to the fedora/debian/slack lists that are friendly and want to help new users.

Gosh... yeah sure... just because one or two people gave answers like that, you're labeling the whole of the openSUSE community present on this list as being unfriendly and unhelpful. And, of course, Fedora, Debian and Slackware lists are much more nicer to unexperienced people than here, everyone knows that...

Is it that hard to be nice, friendly or helpfull? Or are you just lurking on the list waiting for people to ask questions so you can pounce and be a bastard? You must have a lot of friends.........

Is there any reason you're getting hyped up and personal like that ? (1) Besides that, Craig had some more helpful replies, including from me. And yet another useless thread starting... cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDYhaEr3NMWliFcXcRAizgAJ9ouOyJ3heJHr8R8ujQi9qP9azBrgCcD01W XLX/G4pAQn/gymSa7eYQ41E= =725Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 14:15 +0200, Mozzi wrote:

On Thursday 27 October 2005 17:59, Craig Millar wrote:

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On 27/10/05 10:07 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Craig Millar [10-27-05 07:18]:

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Is it possible yet in smart to install a source package?

the answer to your question and a lot more information may be obtained from the command-line via: smart --help

This list is starting to tick me off a little! The days of a bunch of old hackers that think they are superior are over and I must admit that if someone gave me an answer like that I would also get my back up.

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You don't say. Except that it's not immediately apparent how to install a source package, at least not to me. This proves my point nicely!

smart --help - nothing relating to source packages returned smart install --help - much the same

And here my friend you are being made out as a complete ass! You say go read the docs and then you don't do it yourself?

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Of course there is an option to install from a url, but then I may as well download the source package and rpm it myself.

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if your do not find your answer, please ask again.

Still here, question unanswered. Thanks *so* much for your assistance.

So all that happened here was a user asked a question, got abused and still has the problem. Sorry guys that is not how it works, I asked my first question earlier in the week and the first answer I got was a link to a spelling rule! For crying in a bucket!

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Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535

If this is the way people are going to behave on this list you may as well spare yourself the pain and change to fedora now, no one will want to come here to ask questions and rather go to the fedora/debian/slack lists that are friendly and want to help new users.

Is it that hard to be nice, friendly or helpfull? Or are you just lurking on the list waiting for people to ask questions so you can pounce and be a bastard? You must have a lot of friends.........

Try it once, it may amaze you

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Craig Mozzi

I would tend to agree with Mozzi, that some people on this list have become more antagonistic to new people than helpful. Whoever suggested using smart --help to solve this problem needs to do the same and find the there is -NO- mention at all about installing a src rpm. And they are -not- in the standard smart repos. A better solution is to either not answer at all or give an example, (would it be so hard?), that someone could use. There is no example given on how to add a repo either or are they automatically added? We must remember that new people are joining this list everyday and have -NO- clue on how/where to find answers which is why they are here. Be polite and provide answers/examples or don't respond and make us all look bad. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998