[opensuse] Forcing a download of a file?
I am trying to use Firefox to download and rpm from Oracle using http. Firefox thinks it is a video file and immediately opens Real Networks. I know how to fix this for Windows (several ways actually). None of these work in Linux. Any suggestions? -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Thomas Miller
I am trying to use Firefox to download and rpm from Oracle using http. Firefox thinks it is a video file and immediately opens Real Networks.
I know how to fix this for Windows (several ways actually).
None of these work in Linux. Any suggestions?
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
No. And when I try to configure the download, it isn't there. In Windows I can configure each file extension individually. There is no option for this. I was going to update it, but there is no update menu item either. Is there a smart package manager site for Mozilla? Is there a list of these sites some place? Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Thomas Miller
[12-10-06 11:40]: I am trying to use Firefox to download and rpm from Oracle using http. Firefox thinks it is a video file and immediately opens Real Networks.
I know how to fix this for Windows (several ways actually).
None of these work in Linux. Any suggestions?
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz.
-- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thomas, On Sunday 10 December 2006 09:54, Thomas Miller wrote:
No.
Is it possible that the link you're accessing is not a simple http: or https: URL, but rather a javascript: URL?
And when I try to configure the download, it isn't there. In Windows I can configure each file extension individually. There is no option for this. I was going to update it, but there is no update menu item either.
Firefox on Linux has the same per-suffix configurability as it does on Windows and MacOS. If I'm not mistaken, those settings do not override MIME types returned by the server, but only fill in when those MIME types are missing or just the generic "octet stream" type. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
<sarcasm mode>
* Thomas Miller
No.
yes
And when I try to configure the download, it isn't there.
there is no need.
In Windows I can configure each file extension individually.
you are not running windoz! STOP trying to compare a Linux operating system with a virii-replicator called windoz!
There is no option for this.
there is
I was going to update it, but there is no update menu item either.
update ???
Is there a smart package manager site for Mozilla? Is there a list of these sites some place?
I do not understand this question, I was not aware that Mozilla managed packages.
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Thomas Miller
[12-10-06 11:40]: I am trying to use Firefox to download and rpm from Oracle using http. Firefox thinks it is a video file and immediately opens Real Networks.
I know how to fix this for Windows (several ways actually).
None of these work in Linux. Any suggestions?
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz.
-- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork
http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus
you must really be proud of this ^, four lines *is* enough. <right-click> on url and select <save as> does work. http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 December 2006 10:11, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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In Windows I can configure each file extension individually.
you are not running windoz! STOP trying to compare a Linux operating system with a virii-replicator called windoz!
Easy, there. Linux Firefox most certainly does have suffix-based controls: Edit (menu) -> Preferences (command) -> Downloads (tab) -> View & Edit Actions... (button)
-- Patrick Shanahan
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Hi, Thomas Miller wrote:
No. And when I try to configure the download, it isn't there. In Windows I can configure each file extension individually. There is no option for this. I was going to update it, but there is no update menu item either.
The problem is the realplayer plugin. It registers *.rpm as extension for Real content. So if the web server doesn't give you a specific mime-type for the file the browser tries to find the right application by the suffix. Plugins are first consulted and so Realplayer gets the content. Either remove realplayer or get the site administrator get his web server fixed to transmit the correct mime-type for the file. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang, On Sunday 10 December 2006 10:44, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
Thomas Miller wrote:
No. And when I try to configure the download, it isn't there. In Windows I can configure each file extension individually. There is no option for this. I was going to update it, but there is no update menu item either.
The problem is the realplayer plugin. It registers *.rpm as extension for Real content. So if the web server doesn't give you a specific mime-type for the file the browser tries to find the right application by the suffix. Plugins are first consulted and so Realplayer gets the content. Either remove realplayer or get the site administrator get his web server fixed to transmit the correct mime-type for the file.
This all makes sense, but it does not explain the absence of a "Save Link as..." context menu entry on the link in question. However, if one has an "ordinary" URL (http:, https: or ftp:), then one can use "wget" to retrieve the target, fully independent of any browser configuration or behaviors.
Wolfgang
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On Sunday 10 December 2006 08:54, Thomas Miller wrote:
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz.
No.
In that case, your firefox is horribly broken, and I suggest you use a different browser for this function, and also to upgrade your firefox. I have NEVER seen firefox fail to offer "save link as" while RIGHT clicking any url. If your's doesn't, its broken. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sunday 10 December 2006 14:59, John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 08:54, Thomas Miller wrote:
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz.
No.
In that case, your firefox is horribly broken, and I suggest you use a different browser for this function, and also to upgrade your firefox.
That is probably not the case. It's eminently possible to write pages that take over many of the baseline functions of the browser (bring up Google Maps and right-click on the map--nothing happens). And as I mentioned, a link that references a javascript: URL will not be saveable via a context menu item. You can find examples of links bearing these URLs in Google maps as well, in the baloons that tag search results in the maps. When you right-click one of those, the context menu shows only "Bookmark This Link.." "Copy Link Location" and "Properties".
I have NEVER seen firefox fail to offer "save link as" while RIGHT clicking any url. If your's doesn't, its broken.
As above, not true. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 December 2006 14:57, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 14:59, John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 08:54, Thomas Miller wrote:
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz.
No.
In that case, your firefox is horribly broken, and I suggest you use a different browser for this function, and also to upgrade your firefox.
That is probably not the case. It's eminently possible to write pages that take over many of the baseline functions of the browser (bring up Google Maps and right-click on the map--nothing happens)
Would you like me to send you the saved map, or the screen shot of me saving the map? More to the point: Have you ever heard of someone putting a link to an rpm on a page and then making it impossible to save as? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sunday 10 December 2006 16:05, John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 14:57, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 14:59, John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 08:54, Thomas Miller wrote:
doesn't: <right-click> on url and select <save as> work? I believe it is the same in windoz.
No.
In that case, your firefox is horribly broken, and I suggest you use a different browser for this function, and also to upgrade your firefox.
That is probably not the case. It's eminently possible to write pages that take over many of the baseline functions of the browser (bring up Google Maps and right-click on the map--nothing happens)
Would you like me to send you the saved map, or the screen shot of me saving the map?
That's hardly the point.
More to the point: Have you ever heard of someone putting a link to an rpm on a page and then making it impossible to save as?
Well, since the OP said this was from Oracle, I went to their site and poked around until I found some RPMs whose download was a little unusual (see http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/xe/htdocs/102xel...). For one thing, if you don't click the radio button that indicates your acceptance of the license terms, the download links activate JavaScript that displays an alert reminding you that you must. The same links, if you right-click them, so context menus that do not include "save as." If you select the license acceptance radio button, then clicking the RPM download link takes you to a login page. However, if you right-click that link and "Save Link As..." it allows you to save something, and the something has the default name of the RPM you'd get if you went through the log-in process and retrieved the RPM file (e.g., "oracle-xe-univ-10.2.0.1-1.0.i386.rpm"), but the bytes you get are the HTML of the login page. There are many forms confusion possible that don't represent malfunctions in the browser. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 December 2006 15:21, Randall R Schulz wrote:
More to the point: Have you ever heard of someone putting a link to an rpm on a page and then making it impossible to save as?
However, if you right-click that link and "Save Link As..." it allows you to save something, but the bytes you get are the HTML of the login page.
So that would be a YES, then..... -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sunday 10 December 2006 20:07, John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 10 December 2006 15:21, Randall R Schulz wrote:
More to the point: Have you ever heard of someone putting a link to an rpm on a page and then making it impossible to save as?
However, if you right-click that link and "Save Link As..." it allows you to save something, but the bytes you get are the HTML of the login page.
So that would be a YES, then.....
Yes. The evidence is clear from the Oracle page I referred you to. People do in fact arrange such things as links to RPMs that cannot be saved. Sometimes they cannot be saved at all or and sometimes what is saved is something other than the RPM file that seemed to be the link target. But my real point was that the absence of a "Save Link As..." command on a link's context menu does _not_ imply that Firefox is "horribly broken," as you contended. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
After further review of the page source, it seems this is not a link. I found another location to download it as a compressed file. So I am good to go. Thanks for the lively discussion. -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun December 10 2006 16:14, Thomas Miller wrote:
After further review of the page source, it seems this is not a link. I found another location to download it as a compressed file. So I am good to go.
Thanks for the lively discussion.
-- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork
http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus
I've had this problem before. Wherein the file association for "rpm" is associated with Real Player Media (aka rpm) and not Redhat Package Manager. The solution I used as a workaround was to change the file assoc for "rpm" to not be linked/directed to RealPlayer and to make sure that the rpm is associated with YaST2. If your using KDE as a desktop, go into Control Center (now "Personal Setting") and then KDE components --> file association. In the search window type "rpm" and make sure the x-rpm has yast2 as the "Application preference order". This should solve the problem (and if FireFox is still cranky - USE KONGUEROR! As far as I can tell the rpm being associated with Real Player is an older association that should be fixed - one might assume that your using old configs that need to be updated, as were mine before fixing this. Now I can not find any association between RealPlayer and "rpm" as in RealPlayerMedia. HTH, Curtis. - -- Spammers Beware: Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Like the song say: "Everything's 'Zen'... I don't think so"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFe1zw7CQBg4DqqCwRAtMvAKC847+6wkJOopGYZQb9HIN1LZ3VrACfUGD+ 6NXZ9lTHpNaDkCwCWz/zhn4= =z2jN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thomas Miller wrote:
After further review of the page source, it seems this is not a link. I found another location to download it as a compressed file. So I am good to go.
Thanks for the lively discussion.
You call this a "lively discussion"? You are new here, right? :-) Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thomas Miller wrote:
I am trying to use Firefox to download and rpm from Oracle using http. Firefox thinks it is a video file and immediately opens Real Networks.
I know how to fix this for Windows (several ways actually).
None of these work in Linux. Any suggestions?
Oh dear, these (ex) M$ people never look :-) . Edit>Preferences>Content>File Types -- set here which file types (extensions) you want to "Save to disk". Don't forget to 'set' a directory where you want the files saved (you probably would want to use the same directory also to save any attachments in Thunderbird- set this in TB). [Suggestion: in your home directory create a directory -- mine is Downloads -- as the one to which the downloaded files will be saved; the default is your home directory.] Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (7)
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Basil Chupin
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Curtis Rey
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John Andersen
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Patrick Shanahan
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Randall R Schulz
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Thomas Miller
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Wolfgang Rosenauer