From: "Herman Knief" If you are willing to suffer with a RedHat distro release... go for it Wow! Herm your going to a bit of extreme w/ redhat are you not sir! I thought this was a linux(kernel same in all distro's)community project here and it is free abiding by our choice of the license correct! Or did I miss the downloading of/or cvs of source not being free? By the way the compiler issues w/redhat are dead and it is doing fine I downloaded the first beta and have been updating it since now running 2.4.2 all source is compiling great! I should say that SuSE has some major problems with the yast1 text based installer this time, some of us notice this stuff but don't flame each others preffered distros ot the want for an iso to burn................chill out guys it is linux, the same kernel code in all of the distros........ If a script or compiler, source or something is missing to cry fixit, I will say by the way though, I am in every way paying and supporting Linux for its continued growth, however I do to like free beer! Eric Anc,Ak

You think so... have you installed Redhat lately? Have you run into any of the issues that they have had regarding libs and version of code for some of the modules? Redhat always wants to be first with the latest glibc... how many times has that caused utter chaos for the end users? Yes, the kernel source is supposed to be the same. So, do you download your kernels from kernel.org? Do a comparison sometime of some of the code you get with a generic kernel from kernel.org and them compare it to a 2.X.X-AC kernel that Alan Cox has run through, or a SuSE kernel. I will guarantee that you'll find patches and other fix ups that are not in the "stock" kernel. I have yet to see Redhat do the level of diligence they should in rolling their distro. Some people complain that SuSE is slow... I don't think it's slow, I think it's cautious - and worthwhile for the end-user. I've been running Linux in one form or another since '93. I have tried EVERY major distro out there. I will not claim that SuSE is perfect... but they are far better than almost anyone else out there when it comes to pulling it all together. - Herman Disclaimer: The above statements are my own belief, and do not reflect the views and opinions of many on this list. IF you don't agree, that's your choice. Eric Fortner wrote:

From: "Herman Knief" If you are willing to suffer with a RedHat distro release... go for it

Wow! Herm your going to a bit of extreme w/ redhat are you not sir! I thought this was a linux(kernel same in all distro's)community project here and it is free abiding by our choice of the license correct! Or did I miss the downloading of/or cvs of source not being free? By the way the compiler issues w/redhat are dead and it is doing fine I downloaded the first beta and have been updating it since now running 2.4.2 all source is compiling great! I should say that SuSE has some major problems with the yast1 text based installer this time, some of us notice this stuff but don't flame each others preffered distros ot the want for an iso to burn................chill out guys it is linux, the same kernel code in all of the distros........ If a script or compiler, source or something is missing to cry fixit, I will say by the way though, I am in every way paying and supporting Linux for its continued growth, however I do to like free beer! Eric Anc,Ak

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On Wednesday 18 April 2001 13:04, you wrote:

From: "Herman Knief" If you are willing to suffer with a RedHat distro release... go for it

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I should say that SuSE has some major problems with the yast1 text based installer this time, some of us notice this stuff but don't flame each

Such as? So far I've done my two home computers with Yast1, and not a hitch. Updated both with yast1, and not a hitch. I ask because I might be missing something and the system isn't working right. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 7.1, Kernel 2.4.2 KDE2.1.1 For a great linux portal try http://www.freezer-burn.org

** Reply to message from James Oakley on Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:04:17 -0300 ***I don't know why this kind of stuff started in 7.1. It's pretty frustrating ***to the newbie here. Text installs on previous releases were just fine. IIRC doesn't 7.1 change the locations of some files in order to come more into line w/ all teh other Linux stuff???? Seems to me I saw that flicker cross my eyeballs in one of my all nighters , but I haven't a clue just where I read it, probably in the configuration book, the BIG one ( 600 pages !) j afterthought ... Better living through denial.

No my friend the real question for me is are you to far to away to buy cds & the answer is yes i live in a far country in Pakistan .... & those cds cost me half as much as my salary .... :-) so you see ...as far as downloading the whole surse is concern i have tried it before but can get it to work ... maybe cause i am a newbie .... Faisal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herman Knief" To: "faisal" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] Why suse linux like this ???

The real question is: Are you too cheap to buy the DVD or CDs?

If you are willing to suffer with a RedHat distro release... go for it. If you want some level of quality, FreeBSD isn't bad... but you won't have the level of flexibility that you'll have with a Linux distro (IMHO.)

There's a little tool called mirror... download the whole release and make your own ISO images.

- Herman

faisal wrote:

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Well a person also asked this question but i am asking it in a diffrent way ...

Why is Suse linux like this why havent they release thier version iso version of 7.1 ? "not talking about the live evaluation version " look @ Redhat they have release 3 CD images of thier new 7.1 which is still going to be shipped after 20th .. I am new to suse & still waiting for this 7.1 professional ... by this time i have lost my intrest to be exact why should i go for suse 7.1 when even newer Redhat & FreeBSD are avaliable ... :-(

Faisal

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