Hi, all, I'm currently running Suse 7.2, and I subscribe to the updates. Other than getting German versions every time and having to send them back to swap them for English versions, the only thing stopping me from upgrading is sheer terror of messing up my configuration. My suse 7.3 professional package (the English version of 8.0 is apparently on the way) is right here and says that it can upgrade my installation at a minimum of fuss and bother. I guess what I am asking is, is it generally safe to plug in the new DVD, and tell yast 2 to "Fix me up" - to install upgrades in the kernel and goodies like KDE, or is this asking for trouble? Will my current configuration stay relatively safe and unharmed? Or am I expecting too much? Thanks in advance, nick
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 12:49:17PM +0200, Nick Selby wrote:
I guess what I am asking is, is it generally safe to plug in the new DVD, and tell yast 2 to "Fix me up" - to install upgrades in the kernel and goodies like KDE, or is this asking for trouble? Will my current configuration stay relatively safe and unharmed? Or am I expecting too much?
Yes, you can do an upgrade relatively safe and unharmed. You might have to tweak a few config files when it's done, but it will work. On the other hand, there are some nice new features in the 7.3 installed, probably more new ones in the 8.0 installer that usually make it worth doing a clean install instead of an upgrade. If you can, I'd recommend backing up your data and configuration files and doing a clean install. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MSCE, N+ I can C for miles and miles Got spam? Get SPASTIC http://spastic.sourceforge.net
At 07:47 AM 4/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Will my current configuration stay relatively safe and unharmed? Or am I expecting too much?
Yes, you can do an upgrade relatively safe and unharmed. You might have to tweak a few config files when it's done, but it will work. On the other hand, there are some nice new features in the 7.3 installed, probably more new ones in the 8.0 installer that usually make it worth doing a clean install instead of an upgrade.
If you can, I'd recommend backing up your data and configuration files and doing a clean install.
Hmmm. Thanks for that. Sounds as if I can go ahead and ask 7.3 to hook me up. Okay. So here's the stupid question: WHICH configuration files should I be backing up? TIA, nick
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On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:04:01PM +0200, Nick Selby wrote:
Okay. So here's the stupid question:
WHICH configuration files should I be backing up?
Any file that you have customized or changed. Common things would be /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/exports /etc/inetd.conf ~/.bashrc and other dot files ... If you haven't done a lot of tweaking, you should be OK. Any files that are changed during the upgrade should be backed up as <file>.rpmsave. The most important thing is to back up your data, the other stuff can be recreated with a small amount of effort if necessary. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MSCE, N+ I can C for miles and miles Got spam? Get SPASTIC http://spastic.sourceforge.net
Thanks to everyone who replied; I will give it a shot as soon as I can find the time and courage!!! Nick At 09:00 AM 4/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:04:01PM +0200, Nick Selby wrote:
Okay. So here's the stupid question:
WHICH configuration files should I be backing up?
Any file that you have customized or changed. Common things would be /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/exports /etc/inetd.conf ~/.bashrc and other dot files ...
If you haven't done a lot of tweaking, you should be OK. Any files that are changed during the upgrade should be backed up as <file>.rpmsave.
The most important thing is to back up your data, the other stuff can be recreated with a small amount of effort if necessary.
Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MSCE, N+ I can C for miles and miles Got spam? Get SPASTIC http://spastic.sourceforge.net
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Hi, Following down the list of things to do and I have one question. Keith said, At 09:00 AM 4/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
WHICH configuration files should I be backing up?
Any file that you have customized or changed. Common things would be /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/exports /etc/inetd.conf ~/.bashrc and other dot files ...
I have made a tarball of my entire /etc/ directory, as well as my entire /home/nick directory (the only home directory I really care about) for good measure and stored both on another machine. My questions are: 1. Assuming the world ends and the new install melts my hard drive, if I make a brand new install and then replace the newly installed /etc/ directory with my backup, AND I copy into the newly installed /home/nick directory, will that actually have all my stuff working as it is now? 2. Is /etc/ the only place where important config files are? I have a fairly straightforward setup, though I have set up apache, PHPMyAdmin and MySql I haven't really done anything to those other than set up hosts for a coupole of local domains that I use for web development. Is /etc/ really enough? Thanks in advance, Nick
If you haven't done a lot of tweaking, you should be OK. Any files that are changed during the upgrade should be backed up as <file>.rpmsave.
The most important thing is to back up your data, the other stuff can be recreated with a small amount of effort if necessary.
Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MSCE, N+ I can C for miles and miles Got spam? Get SPASTIC http://spastic.sourceforge.net
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 03:38:41PM +0200, Nick Selby wrote:
I have made a tarball of my entire /etc/ directory, as well as my entire /home/nick directory (the only home directory I really care about) for good measure and stored both on another machine. My questions are:
1. Assuming the world ends and the new install melts my hard drive, if I make a brand new install and then replace the newly installed /etc/ directory with my backup, AND I copy into the newly installed /home/nick directory, will that actually have all my stuff working as it is now?
If you install the same version of SuSE with the same software, you should be covered on config. However, it won't restore your web content (defaults to /usr/local/httpd/htdocs), or your MySQL databases or other data you have stashed in various places.
2. Is /etc/ the only place where important config files are? I have a fairly straightforward setup, though I have set up apache, PHPMyAdmin and MySql I haven't really done anything to those other than set up hosts for a coupole of local domains that I use for web development. Is /etc/ really enough?
Except for custom packages you may have installed, I am hard pressed to come up with packages that don't have their config files stored somewhere in the /etc tree. There may be some, but I can't think of any offhand. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ I can C for miles and miles Got spam? Get SPASTIC http://spastic.sourceforge.net
At 10:28 AM 4/22/2002 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 03:38:41PM +0200, Nick Selby wrote:
I have made a tarball of my entire /etc/ directory, as well as my entire /home/nick directory (the only home directory I really care about) for good measure and stored both on another machine. My questions are:
1. Assuming the world ends and the new install melts my hard drive, if I make a brand new install and then replace the newly installed /etc/ directory with my backup, AND I copy into the newly installed /home/nick directory, will that actually have all my stuff working as it is now?
If you install the same version of SuSE with the same software, you should be covered on config. However, it won't restore your web content (defaults to /usr/local/httpd/htdocs), or your MySQL databases or other data you have stashed in various places.
2. Is /etc/ the only place where important config files are? I have a fairly straightforward setup, though I have set up apache, PHPMyAdmin and MySql I haven't really done anything to those other than set up hosts for a coupole of local domains that I use for web development. Is /etc/ really enough?
Except for custom packages you may have installed, I am hard pressed to come up with packages that don't have their config files stored somewhere in the /etc tree. There may be some, but I can't think of any offhand.
Thanks, Keith. So I guess the last question is, once I have the newly installed /etc/ file, do I just un tar and zip the old one over the new one? Am I not then clobbering something that may have been new and improved? Or is it all the same? Thanks again, nick
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 06:57:59PM +0200, Nick Selby wrote:
Thanks, Keith. So I guess the last question is, once I have the newly installed /etc/ file, do I just un tar and zip the old one over the new one? Am I not then clobbering something that may have been new and improved? Or is it all the same?
This is an upgrade, right? If so, you can't assume that all the files will be in the same location or the same format. So, I would recommend untaring your old /etc in your home dir, for example, then compare the old config files to the new ones for the services you need to tweak and make the necessary changes. That's probably not the answer you wanted, but is the safest way to go. Many things won't need to be changed, so focus on things that are not working the way you want. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ I can C for miles and miles Got spam? Get SPASTIC http://spastic.sourceforge.net
On Monday 15 April 2002 12:49, you wrote:
Hi, all,
I'm currently running Suse 7.2, and I subscribe to the updates. Other than getting German versions every time and having to send them back to swap them for English versions, the only thing stopping me from upgrading is sheer terror of messing up my configuration.
I'm curious. Do you send them back because of the book, or because of the first screen? The reason I ask, is that although the first screens come up in German, The first choice screen is language and you can select english from there.
My suse 7.3 professional package (the English version of 8.0 is apparently on the way) is right here and says that it can upgrade my installation at a minimum of fuss and bother.
I've heard good and bad. Have a good backup available and all should be OK. -- Powered by SuSE 7.3 Kernel 2.4.16 KDE 2.2.2 Kmail 1.3.2 For a great linux portal try http://www.freezer-burn.org 5:01pm up 1 day, 18 min, 4 users, load average: 1.67, 1.87, 2.16
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