A recent mail mentionned that Netscape included Spyware. I thought Sun did'nt play those dirty games at expenses of our privacy/liberty. Man knows that Intel, since Pentium III, includes spyware into its CPU's (theoretically unactivable, but is man sure that NSA or CIA or else, - and not necessarily US -, are unable to discretly reactivate it ?). Openly Windows XP bears spyware. Does anybody on the list have knowledge abt other such softs/hard which let You inherit spyware at home ?
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 01:27, usb wrote:
Does anybody on the list have knowledge abt other such softs/hard which let You inherit spyware at home ?
I just use a trusty aluminum foil hat to keep Their satellites from reading my thoughts. I suggest you do the same.
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 07:27:42AM +0200, usb wrote:
I thought Sun did'nt play those dirty games at expenses of our privacy/liberty.
Sun doesn't own Netscape, it is owned by AOL Time Warner. Here is link from the Washington Post about one of several reports of spyware added to Netscpae by AOL: http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/175035.html
Openly Windows XP bears spyware.
Yes, the browser skews searches toward MS web sites, it keeps hidden logs of all sites visited even after you delete the cache and history (http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml), the media player logs the DVDs you play, and those are just the things that have been discovered so far. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
So, is this worse than the MS Internet Exploder? Does anybody actually know? What is one to do? There are only a few search-enginges around. NOne as good as Google, IMHO. --doug, wa2say On Thursday 23 May 2002 06:12, Keith Winston wrote:
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 07:27:42AM +0200, usb wrote:
I thought Sun did'nt play those dirty games at expenses of our privacy/liberty.
Sun doesn't own Netscape, it is owned by AOL Time Warner. Here is link from the Washington Post about one of several reports of spyware added to Netscpae by AOL:
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/175035.html
Openly Windows XP bears spyware.
Yes, the browser skews searches toward MS web sites, it keeps hidden logs of all sites visited even after you delete the cache and history (http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml), the media player logs the DVDs you play, and those are just the things that have been discovered so far.
Best Regards, Keith
The best search engine is : http://www.alltheweb.com Also seems not to include spyware. This is an european nordic made searchengine.
Was this a spoof - all I see there is 4 links to what looks like porn
sites?
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From: usb
The best search engine is : http://www.alltheweb.com
Also seems not to include spyware. This is an european nordic made searchengine.
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Update :: my error Galeon does't like the site but w3m shows it fine - apologies - I should have thought to try alternative browser before accusing anyone of spoof message. Apologies again and I hope on one offended Francesco
Update[2] :: typo !!! altheweb.com = porn site
Feel v foolish
Will keep fingers shut in future
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From: Francesco Scaglioni
Update :: my error
Galeon does't like the site but w3m shows it fine - apologies - I should have thought to try alternative browser before accusing anyone of spoof message. Apologies again and I hope on one offended
Francesco
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Le Vendredi 24 Mai 2002 13:07, Francesco Scaglioni a écrit :
Update :: my error
Galeon does't like the site but w3m shows it fine - apologies - I should have thought to try alternative browser before accusing anyone of spoof message. Apologies again and I hope on one offended
Francesco ok, ok,...
really ? Guess Yr computer is a deviacionnist one. Go to the psychiatrist with it. Maybe he ll be able to arrange its sexual bugs. Or maybe Yu got a problem ? Don't think this is the real place for so infantile and uneducated jokes.
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Keith Winston wrote:
Sun doesn't own Netscape, it is owned by AOL Time Warner. Here is link from the Washington Post about one of several reports of spyware added to Netscpae by AOL:
When viewed with lynx, one can clearly see that article is liberally sprinkled with [clearpixel.gif] tags. It seems that even those who report on the invasions of our privacy, see a need to track their users! -- Rick Green "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
On Friday 24 May 2002 16.00, Rick Green wrote:
When viewed with lynx, one can clearly see that article is liberally sprinkled with [clearpixel.gif] tags. It seems that even those who report on the invasions of our privacy, see a need to track their users!
Doesn't lynx tell you those images are downloaded from the web server you got the page from? Here's another shocker: the web server can actually see your ip address! This is an outrage! Why should they have my ip address just because I downloaded a web page from their server! Absolutely shocking! -- I swear I do declare - how did you get that there?
Hello Anders, Friday, May 24, 2002, 5:55:57 PM, you wrote: AJ> Here's another shocker: the web server can actually see your ip address! This AJ> is an outrage! Why should they have my ip address just because I downloaded a AJ> web page from their server! Absolutely shocking! Are you serious ? -- mioriticus
Is there any gtk 2.0 built for Suse 7.3(prefered) or 8.0? How do I obtain that? What dependent packages to grab? with yast? Or yes use the RH 7.2 packages from gtk, grab dependecies and hope for the best? I mainly need it for eclipse and openmotif is a little too slow compeared to the gtk implementation. gtk 1.x implemntation however is VERY buggy. Aron
I got news for you... they can see your IP address on any server you hit, no matter what browser you use. The server has to know where to send the data back to when you make a request, right? And here's another news flash... all web servers log traffic, including your IP, what agent is used, what the referring URL is, etc. This has nothing to do with Spyware embedded in the browser or anything, it's a function of the web server. If you don't like this, I'd suggest you stop using the web. - Herman On Fri, 24 May 2002, Anders Johansson wrote: ->On Friday 24 May 2002 16.00, Rick Green wrote: ->> When viewed with lynx, one can clearly see that article is liberally ->> sprinkled with [clearpixel.gif] tags. It seems that even those who report ->> on the invasions of our privacy, see a need to track their users! -> ->Doesn't lynx tell you those images are downloaded from the web server you got ->the page from? -> ->Here's another shocker: the web server can actually see your ip address! This ->is an outrage! Why should they have my ip address just because I downloaded a ->web page from their server! Absolutely shocking! -> ->
On Friday 24 May 2002 17.53, Herman L. Knief wrote:
I got news for you... they can see your IP address on any server you hit, no matter what browser you use. The server has to know where to send the data back to when you make a request, right? And here's another news flash... all web servers log traffic, including your IP, what agent is used, what the referring URL is, etc.
This has nothing to do with Spyware embedded in the browser or anything, it's a function of the web server. If you don't like this, I'd suggest you stop using the web.
dict sarcasm
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:
Sarcasm \Sar"casm\, n. [F. sarcasme, L. sarcasmus, Gr. sarkasmo`s, from sarka`zein to tear flesh like dogs, to bite the lips in rage, to speak bitterly, to sneer, fr. sa`rx, sa`rkos, flesh.] A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest. The sarcasms of those critics who imagine our art to be a matter of inspiration. --Sir J. Reynolds. Syn: Satire; irony; ridicule; taunt; gibe. -- I swear I do declare - how did you get that there?
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