[opensuse] teeny teeny fonts
Hello SuSE people, I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size. Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem? Console - The booting screen or when I boot into level 3 for some reason and run an editor like joe or whatever I cannot read the screen because of the small fonts. Can this be changed somehow? 10.3 does not do this. All fonts are readable for me. Bob S. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713 Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly. e.g. if you want 12pt Sans, set in [Qt]: font="Sans Serif,12,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0"
Console - The booting screen or when I boot into level 3 for some reason and run an editor like joe or whatever I cannot read the screen because of the small fonts. Can this be changed somehow? 10.3 does not do this. All fonts are readable for me.
Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 21 February 2009 10:24:56 pm Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713
Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly.
e.g. if you want 12pt Sans, set in [Qt]: font="Sans Serif,12,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0"
Console - The booting screen or when I boot into level 3 for some reason and run an editor like joe or whatever I cannot read the screen because of the small fonts. Can this be changed somehow? 10.3 does not do this. All fonts are readable for me.
Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 -- Thanks Felix, That was one fast reply. I will checkthem out and report back.
Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713
That's not completely true. See Will's Comment #10. The yast control center uses the font set by kcontrol of KDE3.
Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly.
For the font of the yast control center, use kcontrol. And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf". Gruß Jan -- Government can't change the course of the ship, it merely adjusts the compass. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 22 February 2009 11:45:44 am Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf".
/root/.config/Trolltech.conf is root user Qt personal settings that have nothing to do with other users. Proper place for system wide qt font settings is /etc/X11/qtrc . The other is /usr/lib/qt3/etc/settings which is symlink to /etc/X11 . /etc/X11/qtrc [General] font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 ... Change 10 to number you like and that will be default font size for applications that use qt. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Rajko M.:
On Sunday 22 February 2009 11:45:44 am Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf".
/root/.config/Trolltech.conf is root user Qt personal settings that have nothing to do with other users.
AFAIK yast is run as root, so yast uses it.
Proper place for system wide qt font settings is /etc/X11/qtrc . The other is /usr/lib/qt3/etc/settings which is symlink to /etc/X11 . [...]
Thanks! Gruß Jan -- The best way to succeed in politics is to find a crowd that's going somewhere and get in front of them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 23 February 2009 01:39:50 am Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Rajko M.:
On Sunday 22 February 2009 11:45:44 am Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf".
/root/.config/Trolltech.conf is root user Qt personal settings that have nothing to do with other users.
AFAIK yast is run as root, so yast uses it.
OK. I missed the point. Though, changing system wide setting solves problem for all users at once. There are plans to minimize root account usage, so some modules can be able to run with permissions of user that has administrative rights for some parts of the system, which would solve problem in large systems that have administrators for mail, printing, etc.
Proper place for system wide qt font settings is /etc/X11/qtrc . The other is /usr/lib/qt3/etc/settings which is symlink to /etc/X11 . [...]
Thanks!
You are welcome. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Rajko M.:
On Monday 23 February 2009 01:39:50 am Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Rajko M.:
On Sunday 22 February 2009 11:45:44 am Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf".
/root/.config/Trolltech.conf is root user Qt personal settings that have nothing to do with other users.
AFAIK yast is run as root, so yast uses it.
OK. I missed the point.
Not really because ...
Though, changing system wide setting solves problem for all users at once.
... your solution is, in this case, the "best", since Bob is sight impaired. Thus, changing the global Qt font will give him a working default font size that want prevent other users from reading text until they change it for themselves. I just did not know that there is a global Qt config.
There are plans to minimize root account usage, so some modules can be able to run with permissions of user that has administrative rights for some parts of the system, which would solve problem in large systems that have administrators for mail, printing, etc. [...]
That would be pretty cool! Is there already a feature request for at openFATE, or are these "internal" plans? Gruß Jan -- Any system that depends on human reliability is unreliable. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/22 18:45 (GMT+0100) Jan Ritzerfeld composed:
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713
That's not completely true. See Will's Comment #10. The yast control center uses the font set by kcontrol of KDE3.
446713 only has 2 comments. Where is" Will's Comment #10"? The YaST2 control window itself uses KDE3 fonts, but the only thing you can do with it is open the various YaST applets, all of which ignore the fonts specified by KDE & Gnome.
Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly.
For the font of the yast control center, use kcontrol.
Which helps not with the YaST2 applets. I doubt OP would have started this thread if the fonts in the YaST2 control panel were his problem, because he already used KControl to set his fonts to 16.
And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf".
If logged in as root, then that would be the applicable path. But, I don't believe when you start YaST2 as normal user and it asks the root password that it uses anything other than settings found either in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf, or /usr/share/desktop-data/qtrc or /etc/X11/qtrc if a font= line in Trolltech.conf doesn't exit. I find it hard to believe after all these years since the first version of YaST2 that people have to continue suffering this nonsense of YaST2 aka QT not respecting fonts selected by a user in his normal desktop settings application. One place to set X fonts should be plenty. -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2009/02/22 18:45 (GMT+0100) Jan Ritzerfeld composed:
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713
That's not completely true. See Will's Comment #10. The yast control center uses the font set by kcontrol of KDE3.
446713 only has 2 comments. Where is" Will's Comment #10"?
Oh, I am so sorry! I followed the link in 446713 to 438874. There Will's comment is: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438874#c10
The YaST2 control window itself uses KDE3 fonts, but the only thing you can do with it is open the various YaST applets, all of which ignore the fonts specified by KDE & Gnome.
Could you please respond to Comment #11? There Dirk states that KDE4 exports its font stettings to yast. IIRC this is not true, I will try it myself later on.
Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly.
For the font of the yast control center, use kcontrol.
Which helps not with the YaST2 applets.
Sure, regarding yast modules you are AFAIK right, but I never said anything else.
I doubt OP would have started this thread if the fonts in the YaST2 control panel were his problem, because he already used KControl to set his fonts to 16.
Okay. I did not get this. That is, he actually did not write that in his posting. Additionally, he is complaining about the font size in yast control center right now (Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:03:39 -0500).
And, IIRC, all these programs have to be started as root (systemsettings, qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path is "/root/.config/Trolltech.conf".
If logged in as root, then that would be the applicable path.
Exactly: "if". I just wanted to make it as clear as possible.
But, I don't believe when you start YaST2 as normal user and it asks the root password that it uses anything other than settings found either in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf, or /usr/share/desktop-data/qtrc or /etc/X11/qtrc if a font= line in Trolltech.conf doesn't exit.
Totally.
I find it hard to believe after all these years since the first version of YaST2 that people have to continue suffering this nonsense of YaST2 aka QT not respecting fonts selected by a user in his normal desktop settings application. One place to set X fonts should be plenty.
Well, this would be desirable. But I would have no idea to implement that. Perhaps this is something for openFATE? Gruß Jan -- Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/23 08:00 (GMT+0100) Jan Ritzerfeld composed:
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Miata:
446713 only has 2 comments. Where is" Will's Comment #10"?
Oh, I am so sorry! I followed the link in 446713 to 438874. There Will's comment is: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438874#c10
The YaST2 control window itself uses KDE3 fonts, but the only thing you can do with it is open the various YaST applets, all of which ignore the fonts specified by KDE & Gnome.
Could you please respond to Comment #11? There Dirk states that KDE4 exports its font stettings to yast. IIRC this is not true, I will try it myself later on.
I purposely did not respond to that for two reasons: 1-NEEDINFO was and is set to the reporter 2-I don't use KDE4, so don't believe I know enough to properly respond
I doubt OP would have started this thread if the fonts in the YaST2 control panel were his problem, because he already used KControl to set his fonts to 16.
Okay. I did not get this. That is, he actually did not write that in his posting.
I found it implicit in this that he wrote 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500): "Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?"
Additionally, he is complaining about the font size in yast control center right now (Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:03:39 -0500).
That's not how I read it: OP: "Doesn't effect the main menu of Yast though, only the applets beneath it." yast control center == main menu of Yast
I find it hard to believe after all these years since the first version of YaST2 that people have to continue suffering this nonsense of YaST2 aka QT not respecting fonts selected by a user in his normal desktop settings application. One place to set X fonts should be plenty.
Well, this would be desirable. But I would have no idea to implement that. Perhaps this is something for openFATE?
I don't expect it would necessarily be easy, but I suppose an important app (like YaST2 or Skype) non-native to the running DTE could on first start read ~/.dmrc or some ENVAR and from that determine what the native DTE is to read and set that DTE's general and/or menu font. Then on next starts it could check if that file has been modified and act accordingly before proceeding. Likely the place to request this is upstream QT - sync fonts to running DTE. Maybe there is a request like this already open? -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 22 February 2009 04:22:07 pm Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/22 18:45 (GMT+0100) Jan Ritzerfeld composed:
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713
Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly.
Felix, (post trimmed significantly)
As you suggested, I used qtconfig and this changed the fonts in Yast's applets satisfactorily. (afterr having tried kcontrol which did not work) I reported back however that it did not change anything for the Yast menu. Jan stated:
qtconfig, kcontrol), and, thus, the correct path
You repled back to Jan:
If logged in as root, then that would be the applicable path. But, I don't believe when you start YaST2 as normal user and it asks the root password that it uses anything other than settings found either in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf, or /usr/share/desktop-data/qtrc or /etc/X11/qtrc if a font= line in Trolltech.conf doesn't exit.
Now after having read that I looked at /usr/share/desktop-data/qtrc and /etc/X11/qtrc and found them both showing the small font size, I changed them both and again opened Yast. Voila ! One of them changed the Yast menu to my chosen font size. Don't know why or which one, Just a FYI. Now then, on to my other font problem with console/teminal small fonts. In your original reply to me,you stated: "Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3" So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting. Am I going about this in the right way? Can you suggest a proper vga statement? I have a 21" lcd with 1600x1200 res. Thanks again, Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Now then, on to my other font problem with console/teminal small fonts. In your original reply to me,you stated:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Am I going about this in the right way? Can you suggest a proper vga statement? I have a 21" lcd with 1600x1200 res.
I was remiss in my previous reply, negligently stopping short. Each resolution in the chart produces a particular combination of text rows and columns, as long as the default console font is configured in /etc/sysconfig/console. Framebuffer (VGA=) columns by rows (using default lat9w-16 font): 640x400=80x25 640x480=80x30 800x600=100x37 1024x768=128x48 1280x1024=160x64 1600x1200=200x75 It's usually easiest to ignore the resolutions in that chart and just experiment to find the size that suits you. 31a is obviously too small for someone who needs 16pt in X. Try 317 first. Likely that's not quite enough bigger, so if you need, try 314, which on a 21" should be big as you need. You can change the font in /etc/sysconfig/console, but it isn't simple, and usually isn't necessary if you just choose a suitable parameter for vga=. If you want to try, do 'man stty' as a place to start. -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/25/2009 01:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Did you remember to run mkinitrd? Changing the setting actually accomplished nothing, as that is a part of the initrd. mkinitrd will use this setting to change the setting of the resolution for your screen. HTH.
-- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/25 20:41 (GMT+0800) Joe Morris composed:
On 02/25/2009 01:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Did you remember to run mkinitrd? Changing the setting actually accomplished nothing,
Nothing where, how?
as that is a part of the initrd. mkinitrd will use this setting to change the setting of the resolution for your screen.
What are you talking about? On many years of running many distros, I've never yet seen a need to rebuild an initrd just to change the font size on framebuffer consoles (though I normally put splash=off on cmdline and haven't tried any new modesetting kernels yet). -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 06:41:38 am Joe Morris wrote:
On 02/25/2009 01:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Did you remember to run mkinitrd? Changing the setting actually accomplished nothing, as that is a part of the initrd. mkinitrd will use this setting to change the setting of the resolution for your screen. HTH.
Since when is so? The menu.lst change is visible next time GRUB was reading it. More often problem is that user is changing currently mounted /boot/grub/menu.lst, while real boot runs from another partition. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/25/2009 11:05 PM, Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 06:41:38 am Joe Morris wrote:
On 02/25/2009 01:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Did you remember to run mkinitrd? Changing the setting actually accomplished nothing, as that is a part of the initrd. mkinitrd will use this setting to change the setting of the resolution for your screen. HTH.
Since when is so?
The menu.lst change is visible next time GRUB was reading it. More often problem is that user is changing currently mounted /boot/grub/menu.lst, while real boot runs from another partition.
jmorris:/home/joe # mkinitrd Kernel image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-9-default Initrd image: /boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-9-default Root device: /dev/md0 (mounted on / as ext3) Kernel Modules: hwmon thermal_sys processor thermal dock scsi_mod libata pata_via sata_via ata_generic raid1 jbd mbcache ext3 ide-core via82cxxx ide-pci-generic fan edd crc-t10dif sd_mod usbcore ohci-hcd uhci-hcd ehci-hcd ff-memless hid usbhid raid0 xor async_tx async_memcpy async_xor raid456 Features: block usb md resume.userspace resume.kernel Bootsplash: openSUSE (1280x1024) 28039 blocks The bootsplash line above depends on the vga setting in grub unless it is fed the -s option. It has been that way as far back as I remember, 6.4. From the mkinitrd man page, "A few options can be specified via the kernel command line to modify some hardcoded values in the "/init" script. They are read from /proc/cmdline." I would assume that is how it does it. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 10:05:52 am Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 06:41:38 am Joe Morris wrote:
On 02/25/2009 01:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Did you remember to run mkinitrd? Changing the setting actually accomplished nothing, as that is a part of the initrd. mkinitrd will use this setting to change the setting of the resolution for your screen. HTH.
Since when is so?
The menu.lst change is visible next time GRUB was reading it. More often problem is that user is changing currently mounted /boot/grub/menu.lst, while real boot runs from another partition.
No Rajko, I know which menu.lst to edit. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 09:30:20 pm Bob S wrote:
The menu.lst change is visible next time GRUB was reading it. More often problem is that user is changing currently mounted /boot/grub/menu.lst, while real boot runs from another partition.
No Rajko, I know which menu.lst to edit.
It is also possible to hit mode that is different only in refresh frequency. I should probably mention 0x317 (1024x768). I never had a problem with it. Though, you already have solution. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 12:24:27 am Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/24 22:56 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Now then, on to my other font problem with console/teminal small fonts. In your original reply to me,you stated:
"Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3"
So I went to that url and saw that there was a vga statement in LILO but I assumed it would apply to Grub as well. Went to my menu.lst file and there is a vga statement. It is vga=0x346. I changed that to 0x31a and rebooted. No change in font sizes while booting.
Am I going about this in the right way? Can you suggest a proper vga statement? I have a 21" lcd with 1600x1200 res.
I was remiss in my previous reply, negligently stopping short. Each resolution in the chart produces a particular combination of text rows and columns, as long as the default console font is configured in /etc/sysconfig/console.
Framebuffer (VGA=) columns by rows (using default lat9w-16 font): 640x400=80x25 640x480=80x30 800x600=100x37 1024x768=128x48 1280x1024=160x64 1600x1200=200x75
It's usually easiest to ignore the resolutions in that chart and just experiment to find the size that suits you. 31a is obviously too small for someone who needs 16pt in X. Try 317 first. Likely that's not quite enough bigger, so if you need, try 314, which on a 21" should be big as you need.
You can change the font in /etc/sysconfig/console, but it isn't simple, and usually isn't necessary if you just choose a suitable parameter for vga=. If you want to try, do 'man stty' as a place to start. -- Thanks Felix, vga=0x314 does it for me. When I use the rescue disk I guess I just type it in as a boot option.
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On 2009/02/25 23:02 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
vga=0x314 does it for me. When I use the rescue disk I guess I just type it in as a boot option.
There's a function key on DVD boot to select video mode. With the 11.1 DVD that's F3, and selecting 800x600 gets you 0x314. -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 21 February 2009 10:24:56 pm Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/21 00:32 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
I am sight impaired. I need decent sized fonts. Running 11.1 with KDE 4.1 Two separate issues with font size.
Yast. - Even though I have set the GTK fonts to use my KDE fonts (16 points) it insists on using the small 8 pt. font. What is Yast's problem?
YaST2 fonts are set by QT, unaffected by Gnome or KDE font settings. It's at least one open bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446713
Set the size via qtconfig, or edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf directly.
e.g. if you want 12pt Sans, set in [Qt]: font="Sans Serif,12,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0"
Hi Felix, Thanks. I used qtconfig and now I can see the applets in Yast OK. First I ran qtconfig as a user and it didn't effect anything. Then as root and got my changes. Doesn't effect the main menu of Yast though, only the applets beneath it. I can live with that though but I really don't understand all of these special configurations.
BTW, Open Office is qt also, right? The menu's and appearance are also pretty small. Didn't seem to be effected by qtconfig.
Console - The booting screen or when I boot into level 3 for some reason and run an editor like joe or whatever I cannot read the screen because of the small fonts. Can this be changed somehow? 10.3 does not do this. All fonts are readable for me.
Console font size is normally set by the VGA= parameter on the kernel line: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 -- Didn't try that yet. Will report back
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