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jdd

5 Feb 2009 5 Feb '09

14:56

Jan Karjalainen a écrit :

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"? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs"

"rm -rf" won't remove it, I get "Permission denied" as a root!

if you have a d????????? as permissions it looks corrupted. May be it's a system file, I don't know. You can remove this file - at your own risks- by first changing it's mode (chmod a+rw if it's to be deleted...) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Jan Karjalainen

5 Feb 5 Feb

15:09

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 15:56, jdd wrote:

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Jan Karjalainen a écrit :

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"? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs"

"rm -rf" won't remove it, I get "Permission denied" as a root!

if you have a d????????? as permissions it looks corrupted. May be it's a system file, I don't know.

You can remove this file - at your own risks- by first changing it's mode (chmod a+rw if it's to be deleted...)

jdd

I better leave the ".gvfs" directory alone, as it seems it's got something to do with FUSE... But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anders Johansson

15:14

On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:09:45 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console...

That is stranger. Can you do strace ls -a /home/jan and see where it hangs? Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Karjalainen

15:23

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:14, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:09:45 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console...

That is stranger.

Can you do

strace ls -a /home/jan

and see where it hangs?

Anders

Check http://pastebin.com/d38716334 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anders Johansson

15:28

On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:23:24 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:14, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:09:45 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console...

That is stranger.

Can you do

strace ls -a /home/jan

and see where it hangs?

Anders

Check http://pastebin.com/d38716334

Hm, that doesn't seem to show a hang. It seems to be exiting normally Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Karjalainen

15:35

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:28, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:23:24 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:14, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:09:45 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console...

That is stranger.

Can you do

strace ls -a /home/jan

and see where it hangs?

Anders

Check http://pastebin.com/d38716334

Hm, that doesn't seem to show a hang. It seems to be exiting normally

Anders --

Yes, it's strange indeed... "strace ls -a /home/jan" exits normally, but "ls -a /home/jan" hangs immediately... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz

15:42

On Thursday February 5 2009, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:23:24 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:14, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:09:45 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console...

That is stranger.

Can you do "strace ls -a /home/jan" and see where it hangs?

Anders

Check http://pastebin.com/d38716334

Hm, that doesn't seem to show a hang. It seems to be exiting normally

My first thought was "exit hung?" Perhaps the place to look is in what BASH is doing after the child process exits. E.g., that "command_not_found_handle" business (presumably not relevant here, since the command _was_ found) or PROMPT_COMMAND, or even something it does apart from user-configurable options or parameters?

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Anders

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Anders Johansson

16:00

On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:42:48 Randall R Schulz wrote:

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On Thursday February 5 2009, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:23:24 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:14, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:09:45 Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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But the original problem still exists, I can't make a "ls -a /home/jan" without hanging the console...

That is stranger.

Can you do "strace ls -a /home/jan" and see where it hangs?

Anders

Check http://pastebin.com/d38716334

Hm, that doesn't seem to show a hang. It seems to be exiting normally

My first thought was "exit hung?"

Na, strace gives that output on my system too, and ls doesn't hang here.

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Perhaps the place to look is in what BASH is doing after the child process exits. E.g., that "command_not_found_handle" business (presumably not relevant here, since the command _was_ found) or PROMPT_COMMAND, or even something it does apart from user-configurable options or parameters?

I don't think that would be affected by an strace. The main difference between running with strace and without it, is that strace messes with interrupts. I'm not 100% sure how that plays in here though I'd bugzilla it Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz

16:03

On Thursday February 5 2009, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:42:48 Randall R Schulz wrote:

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My first thought was "exit hung?"

Na, strace gives that output on my system too, and ls doesn't hang here.

I didn't give much credence to that "first thought."

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Perhaps the place to look is in what BASH is doing after the child process exits. E.g., that "command_not_found_handle" business (presumably not relevant here, since the command _was_ found) or PROMPT_COMMAND, or even something it does apart from user-configurable options or parameters?

I don't think that would be affected by an strace.

That's not what I meant. I mean the hang is occurring in something BASH does after ls exits but before it prints its next PS1 prompt.

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Anders

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Anders Johansson

15:11

On Thursday 05 February 2009 15:56:59 jdd wrote:

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Jan Karjalainen a écrit :

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"? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs"

"rm -rf" won't remove it, I get "Permission denied" as a root!

if you have a d????????? as permissions it looks corrupted. May be it's a system file, I don't know.

It is a system file that belongs to the user, root has no rights at all to it. It is not corrupted

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You can remove this file - at your own risks- by first changing it's mode (chmod a+rw if it's to be deleted...)

The regular user can delete it without changing anything, root cannot change permissions on it. But if it is deleted, gvfs (the successor to gnome-vfs) will not work as expected Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Roger Oberholtzer

15:43

On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 16:11 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 15:56:59 jdd wrote:

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Jan Karjalainen a écrit :

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"? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs"

"rm -rf" won't remove it, I get "Permission denied" as a root!

if you have a d????????? as permissions it looks corrupted. May be it's a system file, I don't know.

It is a system file that belongs to the user, root has no rights at all to it. It is not corrupted

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You can remove this file - at your own risks- by first changing it's mode (chmod a+rw if it's to be deleted...)

The regular user can delete it without changing anything, root cannot change permissions on it.

But if it is deleted, gvfs (the successor to gnome-vfs) will not work as expected

I see that gvfs-fuse-daemon is mounted here in my directory. If I am running KDE would it be used/needed? I may also run the occasional gnome app, like evolution. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

17:30

jdd wrote:

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Jan Karjalainen a écrit :

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"? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs"

"rm -rf" won't remove it, I get "Permission denied" as a root!

if you have a d????????? as permissions it looks corrupted. May be it's a system file, I don't know.

You can remove this file - at your own risks- by first changing it's mode (chmod a+rw if it's to be deleted...)

jdd

Looks like /home isn't mounted anymore or the drive with /home on it died. Do a mount to check. I only see ? d????????? stuff when a mounted drive is unavailable and the system thinks it is still mounted. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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