Sir, Please go to the support database on suse.com and do read your books that came with the system. I would also suggest giving us better information then just a bunch of " this didn't work..it's a bug! " statements. Because what you see as a bug isn't a bug AT all. ::Ok, i do the installation from cd, and after the files from first cd are ::copied, yast2 back to text mode and says my computer is not qualified ::for using graphic mode... is that graphic mode during the first cd ::install?????????????) and keep on the installation under text mode. I'm going to guess at this because we have no idea what hardware you have since you didn't provide any discriptions. The reason it said this is because the beginning of the install is in 16 color Framebuffer mode which works on any video card out on the market 99% of the time. When you got to the point that you got the error that your computer couldn't do the rest of the install in GUI mode..at this point enough of the system has been installed that it tried to start the REAL video driver for a video card and came to the conclusion that it didn't have one for your card. If your using a newer card that the db doesn't know or something to this effect.. then it will tell you this. It's not a bug ..this is to save you pain and grief by telling you up front this is the case. ::bug 2. In this case bug equals something that is not understood by the user. Please give us more information when you write to the list. You don't want to get the rep of someone who just flys off the handle and rants without backing up the arguement. It's not a good side of the coin to be on. If you give us more information I am sure that we can help you. Cheers! -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -GC --=====-----=====--

* Eddie Howson (eddie@cs.rhul.ac.uk) [020422 00:28]: ::In Shuohaun's defence, I sympathize. I was excited went out and bought 8.0 ::and was, subsequently, disappointed. Fancy looking but functionally ??? ::Maybe it will grow on me. Yast2 (graphical) installation not problem but I ::prefer yast1 for manually managing updates. I'm not particularly fond of ::Yast2's text mode. I would love to know what other people think about 8.0. :: Well, I guess your in the same boat as me. I always just use ftp to get updates. I mean we both know what's installed on the system and we know what a date is..so if it's a new pkg we just download it and attempt an install. RPM will tell you if a dep is needed and getting it is a snap. I'm not to fond of the YaST1 going away thing..but I guess progress (in some people opinion) is just what happens. Cheers! -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -GC --=====-----=====--

"W.D.McKinney" wrote:

So are you running a 486 with 16 megs of RAM ? Are you a new user ? I have none of these issues and have been testing SuSE 7.3.99 (Beta 8.0) and do not have these problems. There is Beta testing for users and you should try it out rather than throw rocks. You get a lot further sending "constructive" criticism to

No. I an't a "NEW" user, I've been using SuSE since 6.0, So, such a NAIVE situation as u mentioned , say, 16 meg-ram?? come on, u have not read my question carefully. I STARTED to install SuSE under GRAPHIC mode at first phase, until the second phase, yast claims that my System is not QUALIFIED for yast to run in GRAPHIC mode. BTW, the suse 7.3 ftp version /desrc file corrupted and cause people just can't install from ftp, I'am the first one who brought this issue to this list, and fixed by ,marc ?? right away, and where are the "BETA TESTER" than????? BETA TESTER does test the SF for serveral different situation, on different platforms, not only for people who install the sf and , well, it goes well, and they claim the sf is infallible. So, hey , u're lucky not to face ANY flaws, but for people who spent money buying these product and reported the bugs , well, what do u think? CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok, Yast2 SUCKS, give me back yast than.

Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

* shuohuan chang (Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 07:01:32PM +0800)

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No. I an't a "NEW" user, I've been using SuSE since 6.0, So, such a NAIVE situation as u mentioned , say, 16 meg-ram?? come on, u have not read my question carefully. I STARTED to install SuSE under

That might have to do with your weird phrasing .. get off the ``u''s, the arrogant tone, and lighten up a bit.

We're all more than willing to help, but if the posts read like this I usually skip them.

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------------------ I think we should give shuohuan chang the benefit of the doubt. His native language does not seem to be English. It is sometimes easy for foreigners to adapt strange and wrong ways of expression (such as 'u' or 'i'). After all it has now become a habit in England to violate the language. Instead of 'for' people write '4', instead of yes you hear 'yeah' (even so written on subtitles on TV). Instead of 'cafe' they say 'caf'. The command of the English language is unfortunately very poor among the English population contrary to countries like France. I met 'A' level student who could not even analyze a sentence as to its syntax or define a verbal expression. Not much time ago 'Charles' regretted the high degree of illiteracy. So what do you expect from foreigners, who have been subjected to this sort of language? Maybe he watches things like 'Coronation Street' or 'Eastenders'? It was a bit arrogant, I agree, (or was he just angry?) but this may not be with intent, just poorly expressed sentences. Many people just not have the feeling for what they say or write when trying to explain something in a non-native language. hwm

Anders Johansson wrote:

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The command of the English language is unfortunately very poor among the English population contrary to countries like France. I met 'A' level student who could not

Hm. Countries like France has a good command of the English language? (Sorry, couldn't resist)

Sorry, misunderstanding, and not very clear (my fault): I referred to French, of course.

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It was a bit arrogant, I agree, (or was he just angry?) but this may not be with intent, just poorly expressed sentences. Many people just not have the feeling for what they say or write when trying to explain something in a non-native language.

I agree, but if you are writing in a language which isn't your native tongue, there is all the more reason to be careful how you phrase your sentences. If you're not sure you can handle complex sentences, keep it simple. Anders

yes, that rule (short sentences) also applies to writing in one's native language (and to me).

It seems that every release of SuSE is replete with numerous issues on installs. Oh wait...that's why I moved to Linux because MS ate my hardware and cost me some $$$ trying to do installs! Now, as SuSE re-packages what many generous code hackers have put together and yes, even at some users requests, the job is tedious and the history says SuSE has done a very good job given the odds. Now specific issues are directed to the URL : http://www.suse.com/us/support/inst_support/index.html After the following the directions on the URL, most issues seem to end up on this list and hashed out. Sometimes even, it's operator error :-( Or hardware, or both, or rarely ...but it does occur, it's software. So as I have run Linux since the first Red Hat CD ever released, and SuSE since 5.0, (I hate boasting!), experience tells me that *every* release, from *every* distro has some issues. Oh yea ... that's right, humans put it together. Just remember, "Only the experienced walk with a limp." /Dee W.D.McKinney deem@wdm.com -----Original Message----- From: Praise [mailto:praisetazio@tiscalinet.it] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:23 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] BUG report for suse 8.0 ..sigh...

No. I an't a "NEW" user, I've been using SuSE since 6.0, So, such a NAIVE situation as u mentioned , say, 16 meg-ram?? come on, u have not read my question carefully. I STARTED to install SuSE under GRAPHIC mode at first phase, until the second phase, yast claims that my System is not QUALIFIED for yast to run in GRAPHIC mode.

You have not read the answers carefully. This has been explained.

the sf is infallible. So, hey , u're lucky not to face ANY flaws, but for people who spent money buying these product and reported the bugs , well, what do u think? CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok, Yast2 SUCKS, give me back yast than.

I have just installed Suse 8.0 today and I have had 0 problems. CONSTRUCTIVE criticis is the only way to go though. What do you get back from FLAMING like you are doing now? If you calm down you can get some help. If you only shout people cant, because it is very hard to see the right information between flaming and swearing. Praise