[opensuse] Epson printer on ethernet connection
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance -- Paul Ollion Proud Linux user SuSE 10.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag 24 januar 2008 10:28 skrev Paul Ollion:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance -- Paul Ollion Proud Linux user SuSE 10.2
Hi Can one not open a root shell and give: arp -s IP MAC for example: arp -s 172.16.13.20 00:D0:c8:00:6f:9d - would this set the IP of the interface and hence let you access it? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Torsdag 24 januar 2008 10:28 skrev Paul Ollion:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance -- Paul Ollion Proud Linux user SuSE 10.2
Hi
Can one not open a root shell and give:
arp -s IP MAC
for example:
arp -s 172.16.13.20 00:D0:c8:00:6f:9d
- would this set the IP of the interface and hence let you access it?
No. It replaces an ARP entry in the ARP cache. It has ZERO influence on the network device on the other end of the Ethernet cable. Think about it -- if it did what you said, then I could just plug my machine into YOUR network, and change all the IP addresses on YOUR machines, without even having to login to your machines as ANY user, let alone get your root account
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Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Torsdag 24 januar 2008 10:28 skrev Paul Ollion:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance -- Paul Ollion Proud Linux user SuSE 10.2
Hi
Can one not open a root shell and give:
arp -s IP MAC
for example:
arp -s 172.16.13.20 00:D0:c8:00:6f:9d
- would this set the IP of the interface and hence let you access it?
All that would do is set up an arp cache entry on your computer. It will not cause the printer to recognize that IP address. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Torsdag 24 januar 2008 10:28 skrev Paul Ollion:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance
IIRC every print server I ever worked with had a reset button to reset to factory defaults which would either be DHCP or a fixed IP. This info should be found in the docs for the (printer/print server) and allow you to continue with the configuration. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Jan 24 10:28 Paul Ollion wrote (shortened):
I hope I am not OT with this question :
opensuse@opensuse.org is right for printing stuff.
I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ?
It depends on which generic protocols the card supports so that data can be sent via the card to the printing unit. Many printserver boxes and network printers have somewhat problematic implelentations of the LPD protocol (and for the IPP protocol it is even worse) and then the CUPS lpd backend (or IPP backend) fails to communicate correctly with such a device. It is recommended to use the simple TCP socket data transfer if it is supported by the printserver box / network printer because usually there is no need for a complicated protocol (LPD - or even IPP) for only the plain data transfer to a network printer. Look for the ports at your printserver box / network printer (often it is port 9100 - in particular for HP network printers) and read your printserver box or network printer manual or use "nmap" to scan it for ports. See for example our online manual (package suselinux-manual_en) "Network Printers" and "Network Printer Connections" and for some general information have a look at http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/network.html and http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell (in particular see the "The Backends" section).
I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list.
If their card supports at least one generic protocol, it doesn't matter which operating system is used to send data via the card to the printing unit. But if their card supports only whatever weird stuff which works only with their software for whatever weird system... See for such a bad example http://www.cups.org/str.php?L2185 Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 24 January 2008 11:07, Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Jan 24 10:28 Paul Ollion wrote (shortened):
I hope I am not OT with this question :
opensuse@opensuse.org is right for printing stuff.
I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ?
It depends on which generic protocols the card supports so that data can be sent via the card to the printing unit.
Many printserver boxes and network printers have somewhat problematic implelentations of the LPD protocol (and for the IPP protocol it is even worse) and then the CUPS lpd backend (or IPP backend) fails to communicate correctly with such a device.
It is recommended to use the simple TCP socket data transfer if it is supported by the printserver box / network printer because usually there is no need for a complicated protocol (LPD - or even IPP) for only the plain data transfer to a network printer.
Look for the ports at your printserver box / network printer (often it is port 9100 - in particular for HP network printers) and read your printserver box or network printer manual or use "nmap" to scan it for ports.
See for example our online manual (package suselinux-manual_en) "Network Printers" and "Network Printer Connections" and for some general information have a look at http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/network.html and http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell (in particular see the "The Backends" section).
I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list.
If their card supports at least one generic protocol, it doesn't matter which operating system is used to send data via the card to the printing unit.
But if their card supports only whatever weird stuff which works only with their software for whatever weird system... See for such a bad example http://www.cups.org/str.php?L2185
Thanks all of you for your fast and helpful answers. I was lucky enough to find a button at the back of the card, as Ken mentioned, and when I pressed it, the printer issued two sheets with all the information needed : IP addresses, Mac, and the various useable protocols. That are : Netware - TCP/IP - Apple talk - NetBEUI - SNNP. I have not yet succeeded to print with it through network, but I will have more time In a few days to investigate all the possibilities you were kind enough to suggest. Thanks again, i was never disappointed when asking this list. -- Paul Ollion Proud Linux user SuSE 10.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Jan 24 21:57 Paul Ollion wrote (shortened):
On Thursday 24 January 2008 11:07, Johannes Meixner wrote:
On Jan 24 10:28 Paul Ollion wrote (shortened): ...
... Epson stylus Color 1520 printer ... ... It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 ... ... Many printserver boxes and network printers have somewhat problematic implelentations of the LPD protocol (and for the IPP protocol it is even worse) ... ... It is recommended to use the simple TCP socket data transfer ... See for example our online manual (package suselinux-manual_en) "Network Printers" and "Network Printer Connections"
There is a typo: In openSUSE 10.2 the package name is opensuse-manual_en.
... the printer issued two sheets with all the information needed : IP addresses, Mac, and the various useable protocols. That are : Netware - TCP/IP - Apple talk - NetBEUI - SNNP.
These protocols are more or less basic network protocols (how raw data packages are transported via network). I was talking about higher level protocols in a TCP/IP network (how applications talk with each other via network). If you are interested in details, see for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP/IP_model and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Paul Ollion wrote:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it.
There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know
You should have asked to speak to an engineer who DOES know the answer. Just because the phone-droid doesn't have the answer does NOT mean that nobody does.
and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance
Try pinging the broadcast addresses in the 192.168.*.* range. Or run ethereal (you have to be root) and look for the ARP messages (Address Resolution Protocol) that are used to communicate the mapping between an ethernet card's MAC address and its IP address. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Paul Ollion wrote:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it.
There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know
You should have asked to speak to an engineer who DOES know the answer. Just because the phone-droid doesn't have the answer does NOT mean that nobody does.
and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance
Try pinging the broadcast addresses in the 192.168.*.* range.
Or run ethereal (you have to be root) and look for the ARP messages (Address Resolution Protocol) that are used to communicate the mapping between an ethernet card's MAC address and its IP address.
Oh, I forgot..when you run ethereal, you have to tell it to go into "promiscous mode" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Paul Ollion wrote:
Hello list I hope I am not OT with this question : I have been given an Epson stylus Color 1520 printer, which is very interesting since it can accept larger sizes of paper. It works nicely on a parallel connection, but it is provided vith an Ethernet connection add on card C823623 but I do not have the manual for this card and I do not know its default address and do not know how to change it. There is just a Mac address on the card. Is it possible to make this card work ? I asked on an Epson technical list but they said they did not know and they would be interested to know if anyone found a sulution on a linux list. Thanks in advance
Well, if you can't find a way to change the address, it may be using dhcp. So, plug it in and see if it grabs an address. If so, you can use the mac address to configure the dhcp server to assign a specific IP to the printer. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Verner Kjærsgaard