Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* James Knott [04-06-04 21:00]:

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After a couple of attempts, I'm getting somewhere, but it certainly is flakey, when compared to Red Hat 7.3. I'll have to do some more checking to make sure it more or less "works". This is not what I'd expect from a commercial distro.

Why would you smack-face SuSE for a KDE application problem? RedCap 7.3 was gnome. There are a lot of defferences that you probably would not "expect" between KDE and gnome that are not related to your "expectations of a commercial distro".

My RH 7.3 system runs KDE, not Gnome, which I've never cared for. What I was getting at, was that in RH, the kmenu editor works well and as expected. In SuSE it doesn't. Why the difference? I realize that we're talking about two different versions of KDE, but I doubt that would cause the problem. Also, this is not the first time I've come across something that works well in RH, but not SuSE. All too often, things get "improved" in ways that turn out worse. For example, I've had a few Panasonic VCRs over the years. The latest one, which I bought about 1.5 years ago, has a lot of nice features, but they're often counter intuitive to use or don't work quite right. For example, if you're manually setting up a program to be recorded, you can't just directly enter in the channel number. You have to scan through all the channels to get to the one you want. I have over 70 channels on my cable! Another, is the automatic time set. On my JVC TV, I just set the TV to the local PBS station, engage the auto time set and it just works, maintaining a very accurate clock. On the other hand, with the VCR, you have to start the auto clock set, which then scans all the channels, until it finds a PBS station. On my cable, PBS is on channel 61 and it takes several hours for the VCR to find it. And then when it does find it, the time is off by about 45 seconds! I find this sort of thing happens with a lot of technology today. Someone has a "bright" idea, but doesn't quite impliment it properly. That's what I've often seen in Linux in general, but particularly in SuSE. Then we get to Samsung cell phones and cameras... BTW, for a few years, I did software testing, 3rd level support and documentation for IBM Canada. I would have been fired, for passing off what I've seen in some Linux software. I realize that much of the work is done by volunteers etc., but there's still such a thing as quality .

Op woensdag 7 april 2004 05:05, schreef James Knott:

My RH 7.3 system runs KDE, not Gnome, which I've never cared for.  What I was getting at, was that in RH, the kmenu editor works well and as expected.  In SuSE it doesn't.  Why the difference?

SuSE included the kde-3.2.1 menu config files. These can config files are not only used by kde, but by gnome and the like as well. Unfortenately kmenueditor does not work well with those new files. As stated in other mails and as you may expect kdemenueditor of kde-3.2.1 works better. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless