On 2018-04-27 13:46, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 01:23:15PM +0200, cagsm wrote:

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hi there

thought opensuse wouldnt do these major upgrades of projects or packages but rather patches and smallish version increases

today on leap 42.3 some libreoffice 5.4.x suddenly upgraded itself to 6.0.3 methinks via zypper up

what is the general plan for upgrades? there was arguing in the past e.g. firefox and then firefox esr comes to my mind and the reluctance of advancing the latest firefox releases and instead the maintainer switching over to firefox esr in recent months.

any explanation on these decisions and when an upgrade is fit for deployment or when smallish version number increases are rather used instead?

LibreOffice on Leap follows the SLE LibreOffice and there we are regulary doing version updates.

For Firefox SLE and Leap follow the ESR stream.

Do you see any actual problems due to that?

I can not install that update: #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2018-04-27 13:57:03 #### libreoffice-6.0.3.2-18.1.x86_64 requires liberation-fonts, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: liberation-fonts-1.07.2-6.3.noarch[download.opensuse.org-oss] [ ] Following actions will be done: deinstallation of libreoffice-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreofficekit-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-writer-extensions-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-writer-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-pyuno-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-math-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-l10n-es-5.4.5.1-15.1.noarch deinstallation of libreoffice-l10n-en-5.4.5.1-15.1.noarch deinstallation of libreoffice-kde4-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-impress-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-gtk3-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-gnome-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-draw-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-calc-extensions-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-calc-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-base-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-mailmerge-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of libreoffice-filters-optional-5.4.5.1-15.1.x86_64 deinstallation of unoconv-0.7-12.1.noarch [ ] Following actions will be done: deinstallation of liberation2-fonts-2.00.1-12.1.noarch deinstallation of suse-xsl-stylesheets-2.0.7.2-4.1.noarch deinstallation of daps-2.4.0-1.3.noarch [ ] do not install patch:openSUSE-2018-402-1.noarch [ ] break libreoffice-6.0.3.2-18.1.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-04-27 14:09, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I can not install that update:

#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2018-04-27 13:57:03 ####

libreoffice-6.0.3.2-18.1.x86_64 requires liberation-fonts, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: liberation-fonts-1.07.2-6.3.noarch[download.opensuse.org-oss]

I have not patched yet, but liberation-fonts is already installed:

# rpm -qi liberation-fonts

Not here. It is available: Telcontar:~ # zypper se --details liberation-fonts Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository --+------------------+---------+------------+--------+---------------------- | liberation-fonts | package | 1.07.2-6.3 | noarch | Main Repository (OSS) Telcontar:~ # So, if it is available, what is the problem? It is not locked: Telcontar:~ # zypper ll # | Name | Type | Repository ---+---------------------------+---------+----------- 1 | PackageKit | package | (any) 2 | PackageKit-browser-plugin | package | (any) 3 | PackageKit-gtk3-module | package | (any) 4 | apper | package | (any) 5 | calibre | package | (any) 6 | cdrkit-cdrtools-compat | package | (any) 7 | gnome-packagekit | package | (any) 8 | pk-update-icon | package | (any) 9 | plymouth | package | (any) 10 | tracker-miner-thunderbird | package | (any) 11 | wodim | package | (any) Telcontar:~ #

How do you produce that conflict list? When I do a "zypper patch", I get no conflicts.

YaST, expert options button. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-04-27 15:01, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-04-27 14:09, Per Jessen wrote:

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How do you produce that conflict list? When I do a "zypper patch", I get no conflicts.

YaST, expert options button.

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From "Online Update" ? I didn't see that option anywhere.

I just sent you an screenshot offlist. If others want to see it, I'll upload to susepaste. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 28/04/18 00:27, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-04-27 15:01, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-04-27 14:09, Per Jessen wrote:

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How do you produce that conflict list? When I do a "zypper patch", I get no conflicts. YaST, expert options button. From "Online Update" ? I didn't see that option anywhere. I just sent you an screenshot offlist.

If others want to see it, I'll upload to susepaste. Yes, thanks. I don't get the window with that option, probably because I run "zypper patch" :-)

*I* know that you are "doing a funny" here but it sure would confuse a newbie reading this exchange of posts: the subject is Yast2 but then zypper is brought into it where, naturally, you won't see whatever Carlos conjures up in Yast -- the 'expert options button' ! :-D BC -- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-04-28 05:10, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 27/04/18 23:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-04-27 15:01, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-04-27 14:09, Per Jessen wrote:

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How do you produce that conflict list?  When I do a "zypper patch", I get no conflicts. YaST, expert options button. From "Online Update" ?  I didn't see that option anywhere. I just sent you an screenshot offlist.

If others want to see it, I'll upload to susepaste.

Methinks that that would be an excellent idea :-).

Ok! http://susepaste.org/38387266 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Carlos E. R. wrote:

I can not install that update:

#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2018-04-27 13:57:03 ####

libreoffice-6.0.3.2-18.1.x86_64 requires liberation-fonts, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: liberation-fonts-1.07.2-6.3.noarch[download.opensuse.org-oss]

This looks like it might be relevant: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080244 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.3°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-04-28 12:36 (UTC+0200):

Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I can not install that update:

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#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2018-04-27 13:57:03 ####

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libreoffice-6.0.3.2-18.1.x86_64 requires liberation-fonts, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: liberation-fonts-1.07.2-6.3.noarch[download.opensuse.org-oss]

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This looks like it might be relevant:

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https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080244

Indeed, this is it. Thanks for spotting it.

I already had liberation-fonts installed, so got no conflicts: # zypper -v up libreoffice* ... The following 6 NEW packages are going to be installed: libboost_locale1_54_0 1.54.0-15.15 libepubgen-0_1-1 0.1.0-14.1 libixion-0_13-0 0.13.0-2.3.1 liborcus-0_13-0 0.13.4-2.3.1 libqxp-0_0-0 0.0.1-2.1 libreoffice-icon-themes 6.0.3.2-18.1 The following 2 packages are going to be REMOVED: libreoffice-icon-theme-galaxy 5.4.5.1-15.1 libreoffice-icon-theme-hicontrast 5.4.5.1-15.1 The following 6 packages are going to be upgraded: libreoffice 5.4.5.1-15.1 -> 6.0.3.2-18.1 libreoffice-branding-upstream 5.4.5.1-15.1 -> 6.0.3.2-18.1 libreoffice-calc 5.4.5.1-15.1 -> 6.0.3.2-18.1 libreoffice-gnome 5.4.5.1-15.1 -> 6.0.3.2-18.1 libreoffice-l10n-en 5.4.5.1-15.1 -> 6.0.3.2-18.1 libreoffice-writer 5.4.5.1-15.1 -> 6.0.3.2-18.1 6 packages to upgrade, 6 new, 2 to remove. Overall download size: 83.7 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 25.6 MiB will be used. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:30:13 +0200 (CEST) "Carlos E. R." wrote:

On Saturday, 2018-04-28 at 07:03 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

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Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-04-28 12:36 (UTC+0200):

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Per Jessen wrote:

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This looks like it might be relevant:

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https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080244

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Indeed, this is it. Thanks for spotting it.

I already had liberation-fonts installed, so got no conflicts:

But I have "liberation2-fonts-2.00.1-12.1.noarch" installed. I can't have both. I already have way too many fonts for confort, and can't remove them.

I'm confused. I too have liberation-fonts and not liberation2-fonts. How come you have different? Reading around about the difference between the packages, it appears that liberation2-fonts is an update that has some additional narrow fonts but also has some extra rendering errors. Is that correct or have the errors been fixed? What is the overall plan here? Are we moving from (1) to 2 or the other way or what? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth composed on 2018-04-28 15:17 (UTC+0100):

On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:30:13 +0200 (CEST) "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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But I have "liberation2-fonts-2.00.1-12.1.noarch" installed. I can't have both. I already have way too many fonts for confort, and can't remove them.

I'm confused. I too have liberation-fonts and not liberation2-fonts. How come you have different?

TW# rpm -q --changelog liberation-fonts | head * Fri Feb 09 2018 sknorr@suse.com - Set this package to obsolete liberation2-fonts to help with Tumbleweed upgrade (boo#1080244) https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00614.html

Reading around about the difference between the packages, it appears that liberation2-fonts is an update that has some additional narrow fonts but also has some extra rendering errors. Is that correct or have the errors been fixed? What is the overall plan here? Are we moving from (1) to 2 or the other way or what?

liberation-fonts replacing liberation2-fonts will not actually break suse-xsl-stylesheets. The dep should be liberation*-fonts.: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080244#c4 Carlos ought to be OK running 'rpm -e --nodeps liberation2-fonts' prior to attempting upgrading LO to v6. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2018-04-28 12:28, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I can not install that update:

#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2018-04-27 13:57:03 ####

libreoffice-6.0.3.2-18.1.x86_64 requires liberation-fonts, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: liberation-fonts-1.07.2-6.3.noarch[download.opensuse.org-oss]

This looks like it might be relevant:

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080244

Indeed, this is it. Thanks for spotting it.

Pure coincidence - it came rolling with the normal bug updates on opensuse-bugs@o.o I guess you have suse-xsl-stylesheets installed ? If you try deinstalling that along with liberation2-fonts (if you don't need either of them), it might work. On a vanilla desktop, I don't have suse-xsl-stylesheets installed. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (19.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org