Hi list, Excuse me if it is an FAQ. I think I have looked everywhere. I've been using Polish and Russian (koi8 and win) keyboard layouts in KDE 1.1.2 on 6.4 system. Having listened to the nice reports about KDE 2.1 I installed it after upgrading to 7.1. Now all my keyboards are gone! KDE help refers to xkb. Mailing lists on KDE site have only bug reports about xkb not working in KDE2.1... Am I locked? Has anyone got any success using non-us keyboards in KDE 2.1? Thanks, -Kastus
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
Hi list,
Excuse me if it is an FAQ. I think I have looked everywhere.
I've been using Polish and Russian (koi8 and win) keyboard layouts in KDE 1.1.2 on 6.4 system. Having listened to the nice reports about KDE 2.1 I installed it after upgrading to 7.1.
Now all my keyboards are gone! KDE help refers to xkb. Mailing lists on KDE site have only bug reports about xkb not working in KDE2.1...
Am I locked? Has anyone got any success using non-us keyboards in KDE 2.1?
No problem here with the turkish keyboard which X version are u using -- Togan Muftuoglu
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:08:57AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
Hi list,
Excuse me if it is an FAQ. I think I have looked everywhere.
I've been using Polish and Russian (koi8 and win) keyboard layouts in KDE 1.1.2 on 6.4 system. Having listened to the nice reports about KDE 2.1 I installed it after upgrading to 7.1.
Now all my keyboards are gone! KDE help refers to xkb. Mailing lists on KDE site have only bug reports about xkb not working in KDE2.1...
Am I locked? Has anyone got any success using non-us keyboards in KDE 2.1?
No problem here with the turkish keyboard which X version are u using
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1 I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-( It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh> -Kastus
-- Togan Muftuoglu
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1
I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-(
It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh>
Now here are some options maybe you have tried them all. 1)disable XKB in your XF86Config file (this will help you top use whatever keyboard layout you are using under console to be used for X) 2)make sure you have the proper LANG set (now Although I do not feel this necesary since keyboard layout should have nothing to do with the language with out this one I seem to get ? marks instead of the proper nonascii letter) 3) There is a package called xkbsel (sorry I do not remember where exactly I got it but I do remember finding it at freshmeat) Hope these helps -- Togan Muftuoglu
The trick seems to be: in /etc/rc.config export the LANG variable for your country in /etc/X11/XF86config or /etc/XF86config reorder the font directories so that your fontsets are first in line ( I recommend having the /75 and /100 fonts first, before the /75:unscaled etc. ) This should fix the language problems you guys have had with vi/konsole et al. It fixed my problems at least :> -tosi On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:30:55AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1
I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-(
It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh>
Now here are some options maybe you have tried them all.
1)disable XKB in your XF86Config file (this will help you top use whatever keyboard layout you are using under console to be used for X) 2)make sure you have the proper LANG set (now Although I do not feel this necesary since keyboard layout should have nothing to do with the language with out this one I seem to get ? marks instead of the proper nonascii letter) 3) There is a package called xkbsel (sorry I do not remember where exactly I got it but I do remember finding it at freshmeat)
Hope these helps
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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Thank you guys for the advice. This is not exactly what I need. The solutions you propose allow to set up just one keyboard layout while what I need is to be able to use several different keyboard layouts with different languages. It was possible in KDE 1.1.2 with kikbd and looks impossible in KDE 2.1 Maybe KDE 2.1 is not ready for prime time. I wish I were wrong with this opinion. -Kastus On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0000, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
The trick seems to be:
in /etc/rc.config export the LANG variable for your country
in /etc/X11/XF86config or /etc/XF86config reorder the font directories so that your fontsets are first in line ( I recommend having the /75 and /100 fonts first, before the /75:unscaled etc. )
This should fix the language problems you guys have had with vi/konsole et al.
It fixed my problems at least :>
-tosi
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:30:55AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1
I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-(
It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh>
Now here are some options maybe you have tried them all.
1)disable XKB in your XF86Config file (this will help you top use whatever keyboard layout you are using under console to be used for X) 2)make sure you have the proper LANG set (now Although I do not feel this necesary since keyboard layout should have nothing to do with the language with out this one I seem to get ? marks instead of the proper nonascii letter) 3) There is a package called xkbsel (sorry I do not remember where exactly I got it but I do remember finding it at freshmeat)
Hope these helps
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Are you referring to something like "K -> Preferences -> Personalization -> Keyboard layout" ? I have that running with Icelandic, Swedish and en_GB ( UK ) Keyboards - -tosi
Thank you guys for the advice. This is not exactly what I need. The solutions you propose allow to set up just one keyboard layout while what I need is to be able to use several different keyboard layouts with different languages.
It was possible in KDE 1.1.2 with kikbd and looks impossible in KDE 2.1
Maybe KDE 2.1 is not ready for prime time.
I wish I were wrong with this opinion.
-Kastus
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0000, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
The trick seems to be:
in /etc/rc.config export the LANG variable for your country
in /etc/X11/XF86config or /etc/XF86config reorder the font directories so that your fontsets are first in line ( I recommend having the /75 and /100 fonts first, before the /75:unscaled etc. )
This should fix the language problems you guys have had with vi/konsole et al.
It fixed my problems at least :>
-tosi
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:30:55AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1
I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-(
It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh>
Now here are some options maybe you have tried them all.
1)disable XKB in your XF86Config file (this will help you top use whatever keyboard layout you are using under console to be used for X) 2)make sure you have the proper LANG set (now Although I do not feel this necesary since keyboard layout should have nothing to do with the language with out this one I seem to get ? marks instead of the proper nonascii letter) 3) There is a package called xkbsel (sorry I do not remember where exactly I got it but I do remember finding it at freshmeat)
Hope these helps
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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Are you referring to something like "K -> Preferences -> Personalization -> Keyboard layout" ?
Yes, I tried it. It seemed to be switching nothing at first, then I ran something like kxkb (don't remember exactly) and it began to work. But... WHen in KDE 1.1.2 I opened kxvt with cyrillic font and switch keyboard (via kikbd) to russian I was able to type cyrillic in vi. As I understand, there is no kxvt in KDE 2.1, and there is no way to specify font when starting konsole. So I started xterm with koi8 font. I switched keyboard to russian, tried to type in vi--I got nothing, keyboard input rejected. KDE help says nothing about keyboard layouts. Is there a place I can read about it?
I have that running with Icelandic, Swedish and en_GB ( UK ) Keyboards
Can you share the knowledge how you do you do it? And how are all diacritics produced? Thanks, -Kastus (very much puzzled ;-<)
- -tosi
Thank you guys for the advice. This is not exactly what I need. The solutions you propose allow to set up just one keyboard layout while what I need is to be able to use several different keyboard layouts with different languages.
It was possible in KDE 1.1.2 with kikbd and looks impossible in KDE 2.1
Maybe KDE 2.1 is not ready for prime time.
I wish I were wrong with this opinion.
-Kastus
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0000, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
The trick seems to be:
in /etc/rc.config export the LANG variable for your country
in /etc/X11/XF86config or /etc/XF86config reorder the font directories so that your fontsets are first in line ( I recommend having the /75 and /100 fonts first, before the /75:unscaled etc. )
This should fix the language problems you guys have had with vi/konsole et al.
It fixed my problems at least :>
-tosi
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:30:55AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1
I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-(
It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh>
Now here are some options maybe you have tried them all.
1)disable XKB in your XF86Config file (this will help you top use whatever keyboard layout you are using under console to be used for X) 2)make sure you have the proper LANG set (now Although I do not feel this necesary since keyboard layout should have nothing to do with the language with out this one I seem to get ? marks instead of the proper nonascii letter) 3) There is a package called xkbsel (sorry I do not remember where exactly I got it but I do remember finding it at freshmeat)
Hope these helps
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I tried adding Turkish keyboard, and setting my font to iso8859-2 ( which I have installed... dunno if it's the correct font for turkish tho :) then I started kvt ( in /opt/kde/bin/kvt ) and it worked.. lots of funny characters :) Oh... I set my font inside kvt... - -tosi
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Are you referring to something like "K -> Preferences -> Personalization -> Keyboard layout" ?
Yes, I tried it. It seemed to be switching nothing at first, then I ran something like kxkb (don't remember exactly) and it began to work. But...
WHen in KDE 1.1.2 I opened kxvt with cyrillic font and switch keyboard (via kikbd) to russian I was able to type cyrillic in vi.
As I understand, there is no kxvt in KDE 2.1, and there is no way to specify font when starting konsole. So I started xterm with koi8 font. I switched keyboard to russian, tried to type in vi--I got nothing, keyboard input rejected.
KDE help says nothing about keyboard layouts. Is there a place I can read about it?
I have that running with Icelandic, Swedish and en_GB ( UK ) Keyboards
Can you share the knowledge how you do you do it? And how are all diacritics produced?
Thanks,
-Kastus (very much puzzled ;-<)
- -tosi
Thank you guys for the advice. This is not exactly what I need. The solutions you propose allow to set up just one keyboard layout while what I need is to be able to use several different keyboard layouts with different languages.
It was possible in KDE 1.1.2 with kikbd and looks impossible in KDE 2.1
Maybe KDE 2.1 is not ready for prime time.
I wish I were wrong with this opinion.
-Kastus
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0000, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
The trick seems to be:
in /etc/rc.config export the LANG variable for your country
in /etc/X11/XF86config or /etc/XF86config reorder the font directories so that your fontsets are first in line ( I recommend having the /75 and /100 fonts first, before the /75:unscaled etc. )
This should fix the language problems you guys have had with vi/konsole et al.
It fixed my problems at least :>
-tosi
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:30:55AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
"Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka" wrote:
XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.1
I found some program called kxkb. System seems to switch something after I started this thing, but no non-ascii characters may be input in vi :-(
It was so simple in KDE 1.1.2. <sigh>
Now here are some options maybe you have tried them all.
1)disable XKB in your XF86Config file (this will help you top use whatever keyboard layout you are using under console to be used for X) 2)make sure you have the proper LANG set (now Although I do not feel this necesary since keyboard layout should have nothing to do with the language with out this one I seem to get ? marks instead of the proper nonascii letter) 3) There is a package called xkbsel (sorry I do not remember where exactly I got it but I do remember finding it at freshmeat)
Hope these helps
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
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I tried adding Turkish keyboard, and setting my font to iso8859-2 ( which I have installed... dunno if it's the correct font for turkish tho :) then I started kvt ( in /opt/kde/bin/kvt ) and it worked.. lots of funny characters :)
Now It could be true with the funny characters as Turkish is latin5 or ISO8859-9 although you can use iso8859-3 as well but iso8859-2 no way just a info message. But on the serios topic try to do a search in the i18.kde.org mail archives as this was one of the common issues discussed there. -- Togan Muftuoglu
I never felt myself so miserable. I installed KDE1.1.2 base and its dependencies to get kvt. I start kvt with koi8r font. Mutt displays message in koi8 encoding without problems. Vi rejects completely input in ru keyboard. I tried Icelandic keyboard, I can input thorn character without any problems. But as soon as I switch keyboard to ru no input is possible in vi. Some progress achieved though: cyrillic characters can be typed in Mozilla. It drives me completely nuts. I am missing some simple setting in kvt/bash/vi. I only wonder why it was simple in KDE 1.1.2 and why it is so broken in 2.1? I am using KDE 2.1 rpms for SuSE 7.1 from KDE mirror at sourceforge.net. Togan, can you do me a favour? Can you add ru keyboard to your keyboards and try typing in vi? Thanks, -Kastus On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:07:30AM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
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I tried adding Turkish keyboard, and setting my font to iso8859-2 ( which I have installed... dunno if it's the correct font for turkish tho :) then I started kvt ( in /opt/kde/bin/kvt ) and it worked.. lots of funny characters :)
Now It could be true with the funny characters as Turkish is latin5 or ISO8859-9 although you can use iso8859-3 as well but iso8859-2 no way just a info message.
But on the serios topic try to do a search in the i18.kde.org mail archives as this was one of the common issues discussed there.
-- Togan Muftuoglu
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Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka
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Togan Muftuoglu
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Tor Sigurdsson