[opensuse] The oddest thing with OpenOffice and one SuSE11.0

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Verner Kjærsgaard

16 Apr 2009 16 Apr '09

19:54

Hi list I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters. So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints? Best regards, Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

16 Apr 16 Apr

20:06

In <49E78CE8.9020109@os-academy.dk>, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters.

So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints?

Does the "locale" output between the systems vary? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/

Verner Kjærsgaard

20:10

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. skrev:

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In <49E78CE8.9020109@os-academy.dk>, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters.

So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints?

Does the "locale" output between the systems vary?

This is the machine on which OO is NOT working correctly LANG=da_DK.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_TIME="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_NAME="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_ALL= On this machine it's OK: LANG=da_DK.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_TIME="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_NAME="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="da_DK.UTF-8" LC_ALL= As can be seen - as far as I can see - they are identical... Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

20:33

In <49E790B6.30007@os-academy.dk>, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. skrev:

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In <49E78CE8.9020109@os-academy.dk>, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters.

So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints? Does the "locale" output between the systems vary? As far as I can see - they are identical...

Do the settings in /etc/sysconfig/language match? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/

Verner Kjærsgaard

20:40

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. skrev:

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In <49E790B6.30007@os-academy.dk>, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. skrev:

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In <49E78CE8.9020109@os-academy.dk>, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters.

So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints?

Does the "locale" output between the systems vary?

As far as I can see - they are identical...

Do the settings in /etc/sysconfig/language match?

I am an idiot! I'm sorry for having (possibly) wasted your time. Please accept my apologizes! I just realized, I do NOT have an OO problem. I have a KMAIL problem... I overlooked (how could I?) that the files with the questionmarks are files received by E-mail. They contain the 'æøå' characters and are 'Saved As' using Kmail. On the actual disk, when one lists the directory contents with 'ls -l', the national specific characters have already been replaced by questionmarks. Kmail did so or rather - caused it to happen. No wonder OO refuses to open them. So, it's a setting in Kmail that causes it. Still don't know why I didn't see it in the first place... Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

20:59

* Verner Kjærsgaard [04-16-09 16:40]:

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I just realized, I do NOT have an OO problem. I have a KMAIL problem...

I overlooked (how could I?) that the files with the questionmarks are files received by E-mail. They contain the 'æøå' characters and are 'Saved As' using Kmail. On the actual disk, when one lists the directory contents with 'ls -l', the national specific characters have already been replaced by questionmarks. Kmail did so or rather - caused it to happen.

No wonder OO refuses to open them.

So, OO *will* open them if you *escape* the questionmarks? ie: soffice /path/to/file/A_file_with_\?\?\?.odt -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Verner Kjærsgaard

17 Apr 17 Apr

06:08

Patrick Shanahan skrev:

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* Verner Kjærsgaard [04-16-09 16:40]:

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I just realized, I do NOT have an OO problem. I have a KMAIL problem...

I overlooked (how could I?) that the files with the questionmarks are files received by E-mail. They contain the 'æøå' characters and are 'Saved As' using Kmail. On the actual disk, when one lists the directory contents with 'ls -l', the national specific characters have already been replaced by questionmarks. Kmail did so or rather - caused it to happen.

No wonder OO refuses to open them.

So, OO *will* open them if you *escape* the questionmarks? ie: soffice /path/to/file/A_file_with_\?\?\?.odt

Yes. See my red ears ? Regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

16 Apr 16 Apr

20:12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-04-16 at 21:54 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters.

So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints?

Check the mount options of the filesystem where the files reside (command 'mount' on a terminal). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknnkUIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VomgCdFnrXpNG73R/kekK7VL1/wjiE fekAoIOgkdnXbYL8cknOy+VyNzHh/YSM =eV+U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Verner Kjærsgaard

20:17

Carlos E. R. skrev:

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On Thursday, 2009-04-16 at 21:54 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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I'm on openSuSE11.0 with OpenOffice 3.0, I've got two identical (well, nearly as we shall see) systems. On system A, if I have a file named say "A_file_with_æøå.odt" it opens just fine in OO. On system B, if I have an identical named file, it doesn't open, OO replaces the "æøå" characters with questionmarks and subsequently refuses to open the file. In all other aspects the system treats and works correctly with the national characters.

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So, I've got a problem with nationals and umlauts and so. Any hints?

Check the mount options of the filesystem where the files reside (command 'mount' on a terminal).

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Hi list (and thank your for your answers!) this is the output of the 'mount' command on the affected system: /dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) The above line is the line with the filesystem/disk in question. Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

21:21

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-04-16 at 22:17 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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Check the mount options of the filesystem where the files reside (command 'mount' on a terminal).

Hi list (and thank your for your answers!)

this is the output of the 'mount' command on the affected system:

/dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)

The above line is the line with the filesystem/disk in question.

I'd prefer to see both, the one that works and the one that doesn't :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknnoWQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UczgCfThCphLgXbB3bOujD/XLmn6NB 3p8AoJLXAGIV77Qd4EH8nNyq5KvlZdfD =Jp5s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Verner Kjærsgaard

17 Apr 17 Apr

06:11

Carlos E. R. skrev:

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On Thursday, 2009-04-16 at 22:17 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

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Check the mount options of the filesystem where the files reside (command 'mount' on a terminal).

Hi list (and thank your for your answers!)

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this is the output of the 'mount' command on the affected system:

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/dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)

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The above line is the line with the filesystem/disk in question.

I'd prefer to see both, the one that works and the one that doesn't :-)

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Yes, but wait. As I found out with blushing red ears (and wrote to the list earlier)..., the problem lies within Kmail, not OO. Kmail was used to receive the files in question as attached files. In Kmail they appear with correct æøå in the filenames, but when Kmail saves them to the disk, these chars get changed into question marks. Once corrected, OO will open them quite happily. I'm sorry for having bothered you all, I shall now dig into Kmail... Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

14:55

New subject: [opensuse] Kmail attachment file name problem [Was: The oddest thing with OpenOffice and one SuSE11.0]

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Carlos E. R. skrev:

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I'd prefer to see both, the one that works and the one that doesn't :-)

Yes, but wait. As I found out with blushing red ears (and wrote to the list earlier)..., the problem lies within Kmail, not OO.

Yes, I read that a bit later.

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Kmail was used to receive the files in question as attached files. In Kmail they appear with correct æøå in the filenames, but when Kmail saves them to the disk, these chars get changed into question marks. Once corrected, OO will open them quite happily.

I'm sorry for having bothered you all, I shall now dig into Kmail...

Don't worry, it happens. Sometimes I have a problem I can not solve, and I write to the list; and just before sending, I see the solution. Just writing it up in a clear form also clears the head. On other times the comments here, even if off-track, help thinking of the problem and finding the solution. So don't worry, it happens to us all :-) So you have problems with kmail file names in attachments... Same kmail version on both machines? I have seen problems with kmail, with the contents of the attachment, when sent as text instead of binary. With the filenames it must be a different problem. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknomGsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Uz/ACdGwpkqjDOBqd6JP8BhNtOPnd1 j+EAoJG6qmaQJZ5HFWXNhgVgEOm42BQJ =0a8g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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