NTP time servers

Joe Morris (NTM)

10 Sep 2003 10 Sep '03

23:47

I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access). This has been happening for maybe 2 weeks or so. Has something changed, or is this related to all the worms/viruses running around wasting bandwidth? "ntpdate -b <time server>" used to work. I just looked through the update messages and noticed there may have been an xntp update a couple of weeks ago (message date is Aug 28). Could the update have broken ntp? I doubt this as I have Windows clients that can no longer sync as well. Strange... Any ideas? Is it working for anyone now? -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.

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Felipe Alfaro Solana

10 Sep 10 Sep

23:56

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 01:47, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access). This has been happening for maybe 2 weeks or so. Has something changed, or is this related to all the worms/viruses running around wasting bandwidth? "ntpdate -b <time server>" used to work. I just looked through the update messages and noticed there may have been an xntp update a couple of weeks ago (message date is Aug 28). Could the update have broken ntp? I doubt this as I have Windows clients that can no longer sync as well. Strange... Any ideas? Is it working for anyone now?

I'm currently running xntp-4.1.1-261 with no problems at all. The NTP daemon points to two internal NTP servers I've got on my network which, at the same time, point to several stratum 2 NTP servers located in France, Germany, Spain and United States. Have you tried running "ntptrace localhost" or "ntpq pe" to gather additional information?

Carlos E. R.

11 Sep 11 Sep

00:29

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

The 03.09.11 at 01:56, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:

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at the same time, point to several stratum 2 NTP servers located in France, Germany, Spain and United States.

Are there stratum 2 servers in Spain (open type)? There are none listed - aside from slug, of course. http://www.eecis.udel.edu/%7emills/ntp/servers.html -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Felipe Alfaro Solana

01:04

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 02:29, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The 03.09.11 at 01:56, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:

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at the same time, point to several stratum 2 NTP servers located in France, Germany, Spain and United States.

Are there stratum 2 servers in Spain (open type)? There are none listed - aside from slug, of course.

http://www.eecis.udel.edu/%7emills/ntp/servers.html

AFAIK, you're right... Here, in Spain, slug.ctv.es is the only one.

Carlos E. R.

13 Sep 13 Sep

22:58

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

The 03.09.11 at 03:04, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:

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AFAIK, you're right... Here, in Spain, slug.ctv.es is the only one.

I got a direct answer from you which I can not answer, it bounces: : host linuxmail-org.mr.outblaze.com[205.158.62.147] said: 554 EMail from mailserver at 81.41.201.238 is refused. See http://spamblock.outblaze.com/81.41.201.238 (in reply to RCPT TO command) So, if you want an answer, you'll have to provide me another adress, or I'll answer on list, this SLE or the SLS. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Doug McGarrett

11 Sep 11 Sep

00:28

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

At 07:47 09/11/2003 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access). This has been happening for maybe 2 weeks or so. Has something changed, or is this related to all the worms/viruses running around wasting bandwidth? "ntpdate -b <time server>" used to work. I just looked through the update messages and noticed there may have been an xntp update a couple of weeks ago (message date is Aug 28). Could the update have broken ntp? I doubt this as I have Windows clients that can no longer sync as well. Strange... Any ideas? Is it working for anyone now? <zapped all that followed>

I am running something called NISTIME 32 in Windows. It always complains that the "daytime server is not available" but nevertheless it keeps time. I don't know if there is a Linux version available. --doug

James Finnall

02:05

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

On Wednesday 10 September 2003 19:47, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access). This has been happening for maybe 2 weeks or so. Has something changed, or is this related to all the worms/viruses running around wasting bandwidth? "ntpdate -b <time server>" used to work. I just looked through the update messages and noticed there may have been an xntp update a couple of weeks ago (message date is Aug 28). Could the update have broken ntp? I doubt this as I have Windows clients that can no longer sync as well. Strange... Any ideas? Is it working for anyone now?

If you are not able to sync with any time server then you might consider checking with your ISP to verify they are not filtering port 123. A stratum 2 time server I know is operational: ntp1.linuxmedialabs.com open access in Colorado Springs, CO

Bob Pearson

11:49

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

On Wednesday 10 September 2003 7:47 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access).

A trick. Most BIG IPs keep their routers in sync with the time, guess so events can be tracked accurately - like RIAA violations. :-) I use the trick of using my router (netstat -rn) as the ntp server. I'm in Comcast in Montgomery County, Maryland USA and the time is highly accurate (well according to calling time). Most routers will serve as ntp stratum 2 servers. -- I am unique and special, just like everyone else.

Theo v. Werkhoven

21:40

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

* Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Joe_Morris@ntm.org:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server,

Have a look at http://fortytwo.ch/time/ Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. SuSE 8.2 x86 Kernel k_Athlon 2.4.20-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.

Togan Muftuoglu

22:07

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers

* Joe Morris (NTM); on 11 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access). This has been happening for maybe 2 weeks or have been an xntp update a couple of weeks ago (message date is Aug 28). Could the update have broken ntp? I doubt this as I have Windows clients that can no longer sync as well. Strange... Any ideas? Is it working for anyone now?

have you tried "pool.ntp.org" -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx

Patrick Shanahan

12 Sep 12 Sep

00:43

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers + IPs not resolved

* Togan Muftuoglu [09-11-03 17:07]:

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* Joe Morris (NTM); on 11 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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I am discovering that I can't find an available stratum 2 time server, after trying all the closest ntp servers physically near (and some not close but open access). This has been happening for maybe 2 weeks or have been an xntp update a couple of weeks ago (message date is Aug 28). Could the update have broken ntp? I doubt this as I have Windows clients that can no longer sync as well. Strange... Any ideas? Is it working for anyone now?

have you tried "pool.ntp.org"

I tried us.pool.ntp.org, but when I use named instead of numbered locations, they are not resolved. ie: getnetnum: "us.pool.ntp.org" invalid host number, line ignored -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org

Togan Muftuoglu

11:03

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers + IPs not resolved

* Patrick Shanahan; on 11 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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I tried us.pool.ntp.org, but when I use named instead of numbered locations, they are not resolved. ie:

try pool.ntp.org as it is roundrobin toganm@beta:~> host pool.ntp.org pool.ntp.org has address 212.254.206.135 pool.ntp.org has address 213.134.172.184 pool.ntp.org has address 216.187.178.105 pool.ntp.org has address 217.127.2.161 pool.ntp.org has address 62.245.244.34 pool.ntp.org has address 80.34.215.206 pool.ntp.org has address 80.238.194.130 pool.ntp.org has address 80.254.168.209 pool.ntp.org has address 134.99.176.3 pool.ntp.org has address 193.2.10.38 pool.ntp.org has address 193.45.254.143 pool.ntp.org has address 193.170.141.4 pool.ntp.org has address 203.109.252.8 pool.ntp.org has address 206.222.212.234 pool.ntp.org has address 207.106.24.162 -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx

Patrick Shanahan

12:41

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers + IPs not resolved

* Togan Muftuoglu [09-12-03 06:06]:

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* Patrick Shanahan; on 11 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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I tried us.pool.ntp.org, but when I use named instead of numbered locations, they are not resolved. ie:

try pool.ntp.org as it is roundrobin

toganm@beta:~> host pool.ntp.org

pool.ntp.org has address 212.254.206.135 pool.ntp.org has address 213.134.172.184

I get the same error. ALL entries in ntp.conf are numbered since I get the same error from ANY named entry ??? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org

Togan Muftuoglu

17:54

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers + IPs not resolved

* Patrick Shanahan; on 12 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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* Togan Muftuoglu [09-12-03 06:06]:

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* Patrick Shanahan; on 11 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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I tried us.pool.ntp.org, but when I use named instead of numbered locations, they are not resolved. ie:

try pool.ntp.org as it is roundrobin

toganm@beta:~> host pool.ntp.org

pool.ntp.org has address 212.254.206.135 pool.ntp.org has address 213.134.172.184

I get the same error. ALL entries in ntp.conf are numbered since I get the same error from ANY named entry ???

Works for me, looks like you have a DNS problem US,UK, DE for some reason TR does not work, oh we do not need to have a ntp server :-) toganm@beta:~> host us.pool.ntp.org us.pool.ntp.org has address 64.113.215.94 us.pool.ntp.org has address 65.211.109.11 us.pool.ntp.org has address 66.33.206.5 us.pool.ntp.org has address 66.69.112.130 us.pool.ntp.org has address 66.115.130.4 us.pool.ntp.org has address 130.94.201.36 us.pool.ntp.org has address 198.144.202.250 us.pool.ntp.org has address 204.17.42.202 us.pool.ntp.org has address 204.87.183.6 us.pool.ntp.org has address 206.222.212.234 us.pool.ntp.org has address 216.27.185.42 us.pool.ntp.org has address 24.34.79.42 us.pool.ntp.org has address 63.164.62.249 us.pool.ntp.org has address 64.44.160.38 us.pool.ntp.org has address 64.112.189.11 toganm@beta:~> host de.pool.ntp.org de.pool.ntp.org has address 62.245.239.18 de.pool.ntp.org has address 62.245.244.34 de.pool.ntp.org has address 80.237.234.15 de.pool.ntp.org has address 129.35.196.90 de.pool.ntp.org has address 134.99.176.3 de.pool.ntp.org has address 195.185.228.210 de.pool.ntp.org has address 62.80.28.15 -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx

Patrick Shanahan

21:25

New subject: [SLE] NTP time servers + IPs not resolved

* Togan Muftuoglu [09-12-03 12:56]:

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* Patrick Shanahan; on 12 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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* Togan Muftuoglu [09-12-03 06:06]:

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* Patrick Shanahan; on 11 Sep, 2003 wrote:

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I tried us.pool.ntp.org, but when I use named instead of numbered locations, they are not resolved. ie:

try pool.ntp.org as it is roundrobin

toganm@beta:~> host pool.ntp.org

pool.ntp.org has address 212.254.206.135 pool.ntp.org has address 213.134.172.184

I get the same error. ALL entries in ntp.conf are numbered since I get the same error from ANY named entry ???

Works for me, looks like you have a DNS problem US,UK, DE for some reason TR does not work, oh we do not need to have a ntp server :-)

toganm@beta:~> host us.pool.ntp.org

us.pool.ntp.org has address 64.113.215.94 us.pool.ntp.org has address 65.211.109.11 [snip ...] toganm@beta:~> host de.pool.ntp.org

de.pool.ntp.org has address 62.245.239.18 de.pool.ntp.org has address 62.245.244.34 [snip ....]

I get the same results. My dns is handled by my router as setup by Yast and I have had no other problems that I am aware of. Had similar results with SuSE 7.3. ???? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org

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