[opensuse] kernel repository
Back when I was trying to get this new machine up and running, I needed the latest kernel from the kernel repository in order for my wireless card to get going. Someone suggested that I add the kernel repository, which I did and have in my list of repos now: 7 | kernel_stable | kernel_stable | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/ So I am wondering - is there any advantage to keeping the kernel repository in my list of active repositories now? I have never had to do that on any of my other machines, and only did a kernel update when it came through the regular repositories. Is there any disadvantage to keeping the kernel repository? Should I disable it? I am interested to know people's opinions on this. -- George Box: 42.1 | KDE Plasma 5 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 42.1 | KDE Plasma 5 | Core i7-4710HQ | 64 | 16GB Laptop #2: 42.1 | Gnome new | Core i5?? | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/27/2016 06:45 PM, tech@reachthetribes.org wrote:
Back when I was trying to get this new machine up and running, I needed the latest kernel from the kernel repository in order for my wireless card to get going. Someone suggested that I add the kernel repository, which I did and have in my list of repos now:
7 | kernel_stable | kernel_stable | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/
So I am wondering - is there any advantage to keeping the kernel repository in my list of active repositories now? I have never had to do that on any of my other machines, and only did a kernel update when it came through the regular repositories.
Is there any disadvantage to keeping the kernel repository? Should I disable it? I am interested to know people's opinions on this.
I do but I don't accept every update. I wish there was a better feed, one that covered the 4th and 5th digit changes. Currently there is 4.5.2-2.1.g0454a6e.x86_64.rpm How is that different from the 4.5.0-10.gb98c3d3 that I'm running? In fact how would it be different from a 4.5.2-1.0 ? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/27/2016 06:45 PM, tech@reachthetribes.org wrote:
Back when I was trying to get this new machine up and running, I needed the latest kernel from the kernel repository in order for my wireless card to get going. Someone suggested that I add the kernel repository, which I did and have in my list of repos now:
7 | kernel_stable | kernel_stable | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/
So I am wondering - is there any advantage to keeping the kernel repository in my list of active repositories now? I have never had to do that on any of my other machines, and only did a kernel update when it came through the regular repositories.
Is there any disadvantage to keeping the kernel repository? Should I disable it? I am interested to know people's opinions on this.
I do but I don't accept every update.
I wish there was a better feed, one that covered the 4th and 5th digit changes.
Currently there is 4.5.2-2.1.g0454a6e.x86_64.rpm How is that different from the 4.5.0-10.gb98c3d3 that I'm running?
In fact how would it be different from a 4.5.2-1.0 ?
Miscellaneous (open)SUSE patches? I guess you'd have to read the changelogs to really know. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/28/2016 02:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/27/2016 06:45 PM, tech@reachthetribes.org wrote:
Back when I was trying to get this new machine up and running, I needed the latest kernel from the kernel repository in order for my wireless card to get going. Someone suggested that I add the kernel repository, which I did and have in my list of repos now:
7 | kernel_stable | kernel_stable | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/
So I am wondering - is there any advantage to keeping the kernel repository in my list of active repositories now? I have never had to do that on any of my other machines, and only did a kernel update when it came through the regular repositories.
Is there any disadvantage to keeping the kernel repository? Should I disable it? I am interested to know people's opinions on this.
I do but I don't accept every update.
I wish there was a better feed, one that covered the 4th and 5th digit changes.
Currently there is 4.5.2-2.1.g0454a6e.x86_64.rpm How is that different from the 4.5.0-10.gb98c3d3 that I'm running?
In fact how would it be different from a 4.5.2-1.0 ?
Miscellaneous (open)SUSE patches?
I guess you'd have to read the changelogs to really know.
So I get to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.5.2 which is fine for what it is but it still leaves the issue of the weekly changes such as what comes after the dash unaccounted for. That gets back to the OP's question. We've had a couple of threads in the last year about kernel revisions for bleeding edge hardware and the changes for that came in the 5th digit of the revision. Obviously it mattered for the people in that thread, but where did they get that information from? As it stands, there is a dirth of information as to why I, or the OP, should keep this repository active for the change to 4.5.3. No doubt Phoronix will make an issue of the 4.6 changes, even if most of them are to facilities and drivers that don't impact most of us who run desktops or servers or laptops. What I'm really concerned about are issues like security fixes. Even using the regular 'zypper up' I see changes to apparmor quite regularly. but what about the kernel's security? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/28/2016 02:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/27/2016 06:45 PM, tech@reachthetribes.org wrote:
Back when I was trying to get this new machine up and running, I needed the latest kernel from the kernel repository in order for my wireless card to get going. Someone suggested that I add the kernel repository, which I did and have in my list of repos now:
7 | kernel_stable | kernel_stable | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/
So I am wondering - is there any advantage to keeping the kernel repository in my list of active repositories now? I have never had to do that on any of my other machines, and only did a kernel update when it came through the regular repositories.
Is there any disadvantage to keeping the kernel repository? Should I disable it? I am interested to know people's opinions on this.
I do but I don't accept every update.
I wish there was a better feed, one that covered the 4th and 5th digit changes.
Currently there is 4.5.2-2.1.g0454a6e.x86_64.rpm How is that different from the 4.5.0-10.gb98c3d3 that I'm running?
In fact how would it be different from a 4.5.2-1.0 ?
Miscellaneous (open)SUSE patches?
I guess you'd have to read the changelogs to really know.
So I get to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.5.2 which is fine for what it is but it still leaves the issue of the weekly changes such as what comes after the dash unaccounted for.
No, I meant the changelogs in the openSUSE rpms. Unless you're using vanilla, I'm sure we still have quite a few patches. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/28/2016 08:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
So I get to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.5.2 which is fine for what it is but it still leaves the issue of the weekly changes such as what comes after the dash unaccounted for.
No, I meant the changelogs in the openSUSE rpms. Unless you're using vanilla, I'm sure we still have quite a few patches.
That would be a good idea, but ... I've done step and repeat on the RPMs at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/x86_64/ and not found any changelogs. Next ? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/28/2016 08:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
So I get to https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.5.2 which is fine for what it is but it still leaves the issue of the weekly changes such as what comes after the dash unaccounted for.
No, I meant the changelogs in the openSUSE rpms. Unless you're using vanilla, I'm sure we still have quite a few patches.
That would be a good idea, but ...
I've done step and repeat on the RPMs at
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/x86_64/
and not found any changelogs.
Next ?
Grab one of those, then run: rpm -qp --changelog <package> | less from kernel-default-4.5.2-2.1.g0454a6e.x86_64.rpm * Thu Apr 21 2016 jslaby@suse.cz - Update patches.kernel.org/patch-4.5.1-2 (fate#318900 bsc#963490 bnc#972330). One more bnc. - commit 0454a6e * Wed Apr 20 2016 jslaby@suse.cz - Linux 4.5.2 (fate#318900 bsc#963490). - Delete patches.suse/fs_add_file_dentry.patch. - Delete patches.suse/nfs-use-file-dentry.patch. - commit 8a6791e * Tue Apr 19 2016 mkubecek@suse.cz - netfilter: x_tables: fix unconditional helper (CVE-2016-3134 bsc#971126). - netfilter: x_tables: make sure e->next_offset covers remaining blob size (CVE-2016-3134 bsc#971126). - netfilter: x_tables: validate e->target_offset early (CVE-2016-3134 bsc#971126). - netfilter: x_tables: check for size overflow (CVE-2016-3135 bsc#970904). - commit 99697f1 * Tue Apr 19 2016 mkubecek@suse.cz - series.conf: move netfilter section right after core networking - commit 9105886 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.3°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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