Ed Harrison wrote:

** Reply to message from Milan Zimmermann on Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:16:36 -0500

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If you can run the Java plugin successfully in konqueror, could you let me know?

In SuSE 8.2, I have no luck with Java Plugin. I posted earlier with more details but no reply, so I am just trying to see anyone uses it.

It works fine here with 9.0. I got it from SunJava2 1.4.2 because I use Firebird. Evidently Firebird was compiled with gcc 3.2.x and a java plugin compiled with same was necessary. I never had any luck until I got this one:

/usr/lib/SunJava2-1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so

I have no idea what the compiler was in 8.2 and konqueror, but it appears they need to be the same.

I've found with mozilla that the pre-compiled versions and the versions I've compiled myself need different java plugins, one needs javaplugin.so linked to the above while the other needs /usr/lib/SunJava2-1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so Perhaps both could be tried. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 12:23:36AM -0500, Milan Zimmermann wrote: : Ed, : : Thanks for your reply. In version 9, can you run Java plugin from Konqueror or : does it work in Mozilla only? Thanks : : With 8.2, I tried 2 Sun Java distributions, one shipped with SuSE8.2, one : latest from Sun and neither javaplugin.so nor libjavaplugin_oji.so from Sun : distribution works with either mozilla or konqueror. : : The only combination I was able to get working was Blackdown Java with : Mozilla. No combination seems to work with Konqueror. You don't use the Java plugin with Konqi (same goes for Opera just in case anyone's wondering). You use point to the actual Java VM binary. Please look under the java/javascript setup tab instead of the plugins tab for details on setting this up. --Jerry -- "The only thing that is good without qualification or restriction is a good will." -- Immanuel Kant

On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 03:41:09PM -0500, Milan Zimmermann wrote: : On December 29, 2003 06:24 am, Jerry A! wrote: : > On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 12:23:36AM -0500, Milan Zimmermann wrote: : : <<snip>> : : > : > You don't use the Java plugin with Konqi (same goes for Opera just in : > case anyone's wondering). You use point to the actual Java VM binary. : > Please look under the java/javascript setup tab instead of the plugins : > tab for details on setting this up. : : I have my java setup as suggested from the beginning. What is hapenning is : that "regular" Java applets work, try the link below and see "method 1" : displaying an Applet OK: : : http://javatester.org/version.html Hmm. This link works just fine for me. I get the pink box saying "Java Version ...". However, the "java enabled" page http://javatester.org/enabled.html comes up blank. I believe this may be a limitation in the way that the page tests for Java support. Especially, since I don't see nary a mention of Konqueror. : However, using HTML that contain's Sun's Java PLUGIN syntax, things do NOT : work, try this: : : http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.4.2/demos/plugin/applets/MoleculeViewe... Works just fine for me. I'm testing this side-by-side with Konqi 3.2b2 and Firebird 0.7 using the 1.4.2 JRE (and plugin) distributed with SuSE 9.0. Now, your problem may be that you're using Konqi 3.0 (and possibly 3.1). Googling around for "konqueror java applets" I see that you may be out of luck. Seems to be something in the way that konqi interacts with some java applets. Further reading shows that Konqueror *will never* register the java plugin b/c that mime-type is controlled by the java/javascript kio panel. It appears that the solution for you may be to upgrade you KDE installation, or stick to Mozilla. Hope this helps. --Jerry -- "Hey!!! These floors are dirty as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore." -- Stanley Spadowski, "UHF"

Suse 9.0 Pro comes ready to run out of the box. But I did install sun's java by downloading their RPM and doing RPM -i Javesomething.rpm . I then placed the check marks in konqueror and added a line to my .bashrc file like this. export PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/java1.1.4something/bin/ I did have to restart kde but I never had trouble with it again. I learned this while using Mandrake a few years ago. Suse was the first one I ad see to get it working out of the box. I'm sure there may be better ways but hey, it's always worked so why change. Hope this help On Monday 29 December 2003 07:53 pm, Milan Zimmermann wrote:

Jerry,

Thanks for looking into this for me. Yes, I am using KDE and Konqueror 3.1.1.

Sounds like your KDE beta 3.2 displays the PLugin succesfully, so I am gonna upgrade one box to 3.2beta in a few days and try. Will follow up if it does not work for me there.

I am actually ok with running Mozilla for now (need to run some plugins at work) but I wanted to clarify this, I just wanted to make a small contribution so Konqueror and Java don't get shortchanged even more ... i still cannot use Konqueror to access my bank website and hate that.

Anyway, Thanks again, milan

On December 29, 2003 05:11 pm, Jerry A! wrote:

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On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 03:41:09PM -0500, Milan Zimmermann wrote: : On December 29, 2003 06:24 am, Jerry A! wrote: : > On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 12:23:36AM -0500, Milan Zimmermann wrote: : : <<snip>> : : > You don't use the Java plugin with Konqi (same goes for Opera just in : > case anyone's wondering). You use point to the actual Java VM : > binary. Please look under the java/javascript setup tab instead of : > the plugins tab for details on setting this up. : : I have my java setup as suggested from the beginning. What is hapenning : is that "regular" Java applets work, try the link below and see "method : 1" displaying an Applet OK: : : http://javatester.org/version.html

Hmm. This link works just fine for me. I get the pink box saying "Java Version ...". However, the "java enabled" page http://javatester.org/enabled.html comes up blank. I believe this may be a limitation in the way that the page tests for Java support. Especially, since I don't see nary a mention of Konqueror.

: However, using HTML that contain's Sun's Java PLUGIN syntax, things do : NOT work, try this: : : http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.4.2/demos/plugin/applets/Molecule :Vi ewer/example1.html

Works just fine for me. I'm testing this side-by-side with Konqi 3.2b2 and Firebird 0.7 using the 1.4.2 JRE (and plugin) distributed with SuSE 9.0.

Now, your problem may be that you're using Konqi 3.0 (and possibly 3.1). Googling around for "konqueror java applets" I see that you may be out of luck. Seems to be something in the way that konqi interacts with some java applets. Further reading shows that Konqueror *will never* register the java plugin b/c that mime-type is controlled by the java/javascript kio panel.

It appears that the solution for you may be to upgrade you KDE installation, or stick to Mozilla.

Hope this helps.

--Jerry

-- "Hey!!! These floors are dirty as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore." -- Stanley Spadowski, "UHF"

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Ed, Thanks. It sounds like this is something that is fixed in 9.0 (as opposed to 8.2 that I am using). The only differnce in what I am doing is that I am not copying the plugin under $HOME but under /opt/mozilla/plugins where Mozilla finds it and works (for Blackdown only though). Just to double check if you don't mind: Does the link below work for you (for me, in 8.2, it only works for Mozilla/Blackdown, no luck with Konqueror / plugins refreshed etc): http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.4.2/demos/plugin/applets/MoleculeViewe... Thanks! On December 29, 2003 08:58 am, Ed Harrison wrote:

** Reply to message from Milan Zimmermann on Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:23:36 -0500

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Thanks for your reply. In version 9, can you run Java plugin from Konqueror or does it work in Mozilla only? Thanks

It runs on both. I think that konqueror inherits the location of plugins from other installed browsers.

Look at Control Center>>Internet & Network>>Web Browser>>Plugins. My plugins are listed as being from every conceivable plugin location for netscape, mozilla, etc.

I did not have to do anything with konqueror, except install the plugin in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins. Then, it worked in konqueror also.

Ed Harrison SuSE 9.0, Kernel 2.4.21-99 PolarBar Mailer 1.25a