Hello, I have been experimenting with 2.4.9 but it appears to have a number of serious bugs (ide/scsi emulation seems not to work), certain programs won't run anymore..and so on. Anyone have any opinion on the stability of 2.4.10 ? I am talking about the mantel Suse versions. Thanks. -- Regards Cliff
On 2 Oct 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
Hello, I have been experimenting with 2.4.9 but it appears to have a number of serious bugs (ide/scsi emulation seems not to work), certain programs won't run anymore..and so on.
Anyone have any opinion on the stability of 2.4.10 ?
I am talking about the mantel Suse versions.
What exactly do you mean by the "mantel SuSE versions"? I recently downloaded and installed the clean 2.4.10. 2.4.9 sucked for me: the hard drive would thrash when ripping a CD with cdda2wav (but with cdparanoia) and when burning a CD with cdrecord. Trying to do something beside CD burning would result in *filesystem corruption*. 2.4.4 (default SuSE 7.2) would cause cdrecord to freeeze the entire computer at random times. 2.4.10 fixed _all_ of these for me. I can burn an audio CD at 12X, run setiathome (uses 16MB of RAM), and run another terminal, all on a 233MHz with 32MB of RAM. It also raised my hard drive throughput by ~0.5MB :) Your mileage may vary... -- noodlez: Karol Pietrzak PGP KeyID: 0x3A1446A0
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:41:14PM -0400, Karol Pietrzak wrote:
On 2 Oct 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
Hello, I have been experimenting with 2.4.9 but it appears to have a number of serious bugs (ide/scsi emulation seems not to work), certain programs won't run anymore..and so on.
Anyone have any opinion on the stability of 2.4.10 ?
I am talking about the mantel Suse versions.
What exactly do you mean by the "mantel SuSE versions"? I
Oh sorry. The Suse'ified kernels between releases are to be found by ftp (I don;t have the address to hand) under a directory called "mantel" who I presume is someone who works for Suse. They seem to be referred to as "mantel" versions ! They are of course not official releases, just there for the curious.
recently downloaded and installed the clean 2.4.10. 2.4.9 sucked for me: the hard drive would thrash when ripping a CD with cdda2wav (but with cdparanoia) and when burning a CD with cdrecord. Trying to do something beside CD burning would result in *filesystem corruption*. 2.4.4 (default SuSE 7.2) would cause cdrecord to freeeze the entire computer at random times.
2.4.10 fixed _all_ of these for me. I can burn an audio CD at 12X, run setiathome (uses 16MB of RAM), and run another terminal, all on a 233MHz with 32MB of RAM. It also raised my hard drive throughput by ~0.5MB :)
Ok. That sounds promising. I wasted some hours on 2.4.9 and it is something of a nightmare, the kernel was reporting bugs in itself in the syslog amongst other things. I have heard/read elsewhere that 2.4.10 fixes a large number of kernel problems. I am not normally chasing the latest kernels but I have a new fairly high spec. PC and it seems to be under-performing under 2.4.4. so I want to see if it can be chided along by an O/S version that may have improvements in it. Trruthfully though I suspect it may be X11 that is the problem, but a long email I sent a week ago about this elicited no replies ... *sigh*. Thanks for the reply. -- Regards Cliff
Hello Cliff, Wednesday, 03 October 2001, you wrote: CS> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:41:14PM -0400, Karol Pietrzak wrote:
On 2 Oct 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
Hello, I have been experimenting with 2.4.9 but it appears to have a number of serious bugs (ide/scsi emulation seems not to work), certain programs won't run anymore..and so on.
Anyone have any opinion on the stability of 2.4.10 ?
I am talking about the mantel Suse versions.
What exactly do you mean by the "mantel SuSE versions"? I
CS> Oh sorry. The Suse'ified kernels between releases are to be CS> found by ftp (I don;t have the address to hand) under a CS> directory called "mantel" who I presume is someone who CS> works for Suse. They seem to be referred to as "mantel" CS> versions ! They are of course not official releases, just CS> there for the curious.
recently downloaded and installed the clean 2.4.10. 2.4.9 sucked for me: the hard drive would thrash when ripping a CD with cdda2wav (but with cdparanoia) and when burning a CD with cdrecord. Trying to do something beside CD burning would result in *filesystem corruption*. 2.4.4 (default SuSE 7.2) would cause cdrecord to freeeze the entire computer at random times.
2.4.10 fixed _all_ of these for me. I can burn an audio CD at 12X, run setiathome (uses 16MB of RAM), and run another terminal, all on a 233MHz with 32MB of RAM. It also raised my hard drive throughput by ~0.5MB :)
CS> Ok. That sounds promising. I wasted some hours on 2.4.9 and it is CS> something of a nightmare, the kernel was reporting bugs in itself in CS> the syslog amongst other things. CS> I have heard/read elsewhere that 2.4.10 fixes a large number of kernel CS> problems. I am not normally chasing the latest kernels but I have a new CS> fairly high spec. PC and it seems to be under-performing under 2.4.4. so CS> I want to see if it can be chided along by an O/S version that may CS> have improvements in it. Trruthfully though I suspect it may be X11 that CS> is the problem, but a long email I sent a week ago about this elicited CS> no replies ... *sigh*. CS> Thanks for the reply. I've got 2.4.20 running on 2 boxes. One Dell box that I couldn't get 2.4.7-9 running on (SCSI problem) runs fine with 2.4.10/SuSE 7.2. The SCSI stuff seems a lot better... HTH Mark
* Cliff Sarginson [Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:26:52 +0200]:
The Suse'ified kernels between releases are to be found by ftp (I don't have the address to hand)
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next
under a directory called "mantel" who I presume is someone who works for Suse. They seem to be referred to as "mantel" versions !
JFYI: Hubert Mantel is one of the four founders of SuSE and his task is maintaining the SuSE kernel, i.e. the patches that mostly come from the kernel gurus that SuSE employs (Andrea Archangeli, Andi Kleen and Jens Axboe, just to name the most prominent ones). Philipp -- If builders would build houses like programmers build their software, the first woodpecker to come along would mean the end of all civilisation.
Philipp Thomas a écrit :
* Cliff Sarginson [Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:26:52 +0200]:
The Suse'ified kernels between releases are to be found by ftp (I don't have the address to hand)
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next
BTW, what are the patches about ? For example, does //ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/patches-2.4.10-3.tar.bz2 turns a - standard 2.4.10 kernel into a SuSE kernel or - a Suse 2.4.9 kernele into a 2.4.10 ? Please make that clear... -- Alain DIDIERJEAN 01 64 23 10 15 ATTENTION : Nouvelle adresse e-mail ~adj~ 06 74 53 71 81 New e-mail address alain.didierjean@free.fr
* Alain DIDIERJEAN [Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:22:29 +0200]:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next
BTW, what are the patches about ? For example, does //ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/patches-2.4.10-3.tar.bz2 turns a - standard 2.4.10 kernel into a SuSE kernel or
That's the answer. Those patches, applied in ls order, will turn a standard 2.4.10 into the SuSE kernel. Philipp -- Penguins to save the dinosaurs -- Handelsblatt on Linux for S/390
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