[opensuse] general thoughts on 13.1?
I have seen a lot of things on opensuse 13.1. The promotions are saying that it is one of the best releases. But I also read things here and on the forums, like that there isa serious problem with getting multimedia platforms to workthe way they should, and that kmail has had some big issues. It seems that some people have these problems and others don't. I tried to upgrade on my office pc yesterday, and ran into the problem with the raid drives. I don't head back there until next week, so I will continue to troubleshoot it then. I am hoping to try upgrading on my home pc which also uses raid this weekend. But I am curious to know from those of you who have done the upgrade - are you overall pleased with 13.1? I liked 12.3, but I also like to try and keep things up to date by regularly updating when a new version is out. Anyone have any "big picture" tips specifically directed at what to watch out for with 13.1, besides what may be on the "most annoying bugs" web page? -- George Olson Box #1: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/10/2014 12:47 AM, George Olson (SUSE list) wrote:
are you overall pleased with 13.1?
I like it. ;-)
Anyone have any "big picture" tips
Interesting question ... Bugzilla has a nice report feature. This is the number of bugs of the past product versions [1] (I stripped the result down to the "Total" column): Prod Total 10.2 1158 10.3 1801 11.0 1937 11.1 1897 11.2 1364 11.3 804 11.4 873 12.1 1340 12.2 1100 12.3 1107 13.1 826 Total 14207 Have a nice day, Berny [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_status&y_axis_field=product&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&longdesc_type=fulltext&longdesc=&product=openSUSE+10.2&product=openSUSE+10.3&product=openSUSE+11.0&product=openSUSE+11.1&product=openSUSE+11.2&product=openSUSE+11.3&product=openSUSE+11.4&product=openSUSE+12.1&product=openSUSE+12.2&product=openSUSE+12.3&product=openSUSE+13.1&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=anywords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&resolution=---&resolution=DUPLICATE&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=& format=t a ble&action=wrap&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/9/2014 4:20 PM, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
Prod Total 10.2 1158 10.3 1801 11.0 1937 11.1 1897 11.2 1364 11.3 804 11.4 873 12.1 1340 12.2 1100 12.3 1107 13.1 826 Total 14207
Not too sure that is instructive, since the 11s were such wretched releases a lot of people skipped many of them. I know I skipped the entire series when KDE was totally broken. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-01-10 01:32, John Andersen wrote:
On 1/9/2014 4:20 PM, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
Prod Total 10.2 1158 10.3 1801 11.0 1937 11.1 1897 11.2 1364 11.3 804 11.4 873 12.1 1340 12.2 1100 12.3 1107 13.1 826 Total 14207
Not too sure that is instructive, since the 11s were such wretched releases a lot of people skipped many of them. I know I skipped the entire series when KDE was totally broken.
Yet those people surely reported the issues in Bugzilla - else how would they expect the issues to be solved? No report in Bugzilla means there were no issues. No excuses! >:-) Me, I say that the 11.4 was a wonderful release, I have been using it till some days ago. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
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Yet those people surely reported the issues in Bugzilla - else how would they expect the issues to be solved?
Unfortunately, thats not always true. If things go badly, many people get out of the testing business. If you remember the list was pretty acrimonious about that time due to getting shouted down every time any problem with KDE 4 was mentioned. - -- _____________________________________ - ---This space for rent--- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAlLPSI4ACgkQv7M3G5+2DLLGrwCffn8JOW71Da5W4qVs1vNmRmI7 H+0AniZn7gtwzpT4DkywKN9zfrxRXjv8 =59r6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-01-10 02:10, John Andersen wrote:
On 1/9/2014 4:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yet those people surely reported the issues in Bugzilla - else how would they expect the issues to be solved?
Unfortunately, thats not always true. If things go badly, many people get out of the testing business. If you remember the list was pretty acrimonious about that time due to getting shouted down every time any problem with KDE 4 was mentioned.
There are other desktops. You can even use KDE3 to this day :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
Le 10/01/2014 02:10, John Andersen a écrit :
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On 1/9/2014 4:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yet those people surely reported the issues in Bugzilla - else how would they expect the issues to be solved?
Unfortunately, thats not always true. If things go badly, many people get out of the testing business. If you remember the list was pretty acrimonious about that time due to getting shouted down every time any problem with KDE 4 was mentioned.
when there are problem, there is certainly at least one people to report it... but for 13.1, the release is too young for the numbers to be complete that said, 13.1 is very easy to install, I did it on install fests more than 10 times with very little problems, including new windows 8 computers with secure boot and remember 13.1 was choosen to be the next evergreen jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2014, 10:01:35 schrieb jdd:
Le 10/01/2014 02:10, John Andersen a écrit :
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On 1/9/2014 4:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yet those people surely reported the issues in Bugzilla - else how would they expect the issues to be solved?> Unfortunately, thats not always true. If things go badly, many people get out of the testing business. If you remember the list was pretty acrimonious about that time due to getting shouted down every time any problem with KDE 4 was mentioned.
when there are problem, there is certainly at least one people to report it...
but for 13.1, the release is too young for the numbers to be complete
that said, 13.1 is very easy to install, I did it on install fests more than 10 times with very little problems, including new windows 8 computers with secure boot
can you tell me witch Bios and Board you are testing ? On my systems i have on one a Bios Problem with secure boot, on the Next a Install Problem with mkinitrd, the initrd can't written :-(. all ASUS Boards...-
and remember 13.1 was choosen to be the next evergreen
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 11/01/2014 11:01, Günther J. Niederwimmer a écrit :
Hello,
Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2014, 10:01:35 schrieb jdd:
that said, 13.1 is very easy to install, I did it on install fests more than 10 times with very little problems, including new windows 8 computers with secure boot
can you tell me witch Bios and Board you are testing ?
On my systems i have on one a Bios Problem with secure boot, on the Next a Install Problem with mkinitrd, the initrd can't written :-(. all ASUS Boards...-
don't know really as most where not mine :-( but I did on one netbook of my LUG, I will look at it this afternoon the most surprising thing is than the boot order do not rely on grub (at first), but on the bios This is an uefi feature. On older bioses (non uefi) it relies on the boot flag, now it relies on the uefi boot order. so there is a great chance than if you reboot after install you reboot windows. if you are lucy, reboot the bios and find in it an option to boot one or the other system. If you have less chance, hit the "choose system" key on boot, boot openSUSE and use the uefi tools to choose the system - I don't have the uefi tools name at hand, but there are command line I made a mistake once: at some moment I was instructed that a /boot/efi folder had to be found and I created one, not seeing it waas already on the disk as /efi. This made it impossible to change the boor order. There must be only one used efi folder (of course) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 11. Januar 2014, 11:13:09 schrieb jdd:
Le 11/01/2014 11:01, Günther J. Niederwimmer a écrit :
Hello,
Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2014, 10:01:35 schrieb jdd:
that said, 13.1 is very easy to install, I did it on install fests more than 10 times with very little problems, including new windows 8 computers with secure boot
can you tell me witch Bios and Board you are testing ?
On my systems i have on one a Bios Problem with secure boot, on the Next a Install Problem with mkinitrd, the initrd can't written :-(. all ASUS Boards...-
don't know really as most where not mine :-(
but I did on one netbook of my LUG, I will look at it this afternoon
the most surprising thing is than the boot order do not rely on grub (at first), but on the bios This is an uefi feature. On older bioses (non uefi) it relies on the boot flag, now it relies on the uefi boot order.
so there is a great chance than if you reboot after install you reboot windows.
if you are lucy, reboot the bios and find in it an option to boot one or the other system.
If you have less chance, hit the "choose system" key on boot, boot openSUSE and use the uefi tools to choose the system - I don't have the uefi tools name at hand, but there are command line
I made a mistake once: at some moment I was instructed that a /boot/efi folder had to be found and I created one, not seeing it waas already on the disk as /efi. This made it impossible to change the boor order. There must be only one used efi folder (of course)
On my first (home) Board "ASUS P8C WS" it is a Secure Boot (install) Problem, "normal" (UEFI) install is working. With this Bios only Win8 Secure Boot (install) is working? With the second Board "ASUS P9D WS" I mean ;-) Secure Boot is working, but I have a Error in the last Session of Install. creating initrd, end with a Error from mkinitrd :-(. I like only to know, witch motherboards (Bios) are working with Secure Boot. ;-) Thanks, -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
that said, 13.1 is very easy to install, I did it on install fests more than 10 times with very little problems, including new windows 8 computers with secure boot
It will not install on my IBM Netfinity server. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-01-10 01:20 (GMT+0100) Bernhard Voelker composed:
Prod Total 10.2 1158 10.3 1801 11.0 1937 11.1 1897 11.2 1364 11.3 804 11.4 873 12.1 1340 12.2 1100 12.3 1107 13.1 826 Total 14207
What does that represent? Fixed bugs during $VERSION? All bugs reported against $VERSION? What about bugs reported against one version but moved to a later version after release it was against was made without it being fixed first, or two or more later versions, or moved bugs that are still open and moved back to Factory or open and not yet moved? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/10/2014 02:17 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
What does that represent?
The OP wanted to have a "big picture", and that's what it is, not more. Statistics ... and that's always the problem with them: the interpretation. ;-) For me, this means that 13.1 is quite good in the total number of bug reports, and I don't see the slightest reason for words like "horror release" as we've seen on this ML. IMHO people should be more positive and concentrate on one actual issue instead of launching threads with such over-generalized topics. As the OP asked for personal rating and for pointers to get a global picture in a nice and discreet way, I responded to both aspects the way I did. Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/9/2014 3:47 PM, George Olson (SUSE list) wrote:
I have seen a lot of things on opensuse 13.1. The promotions are saying that it is one of the best releases. But I also read things here and on the forums, like that there isa serious problem with getting multimedia platforms to workthe way they should, and that kmail has had some big issues. It seems that some people have these problems and others don't.
George, don't come to a mutual-help mailing list and then wonder why all you see is problems. People come here for help. Most people have it running satisfactorily. I did a trial install in a virtual machine and found it did everything I needed, with no more than a couple items that needed tweaking. That said, I'm sticking with my 12.3 release until 13.2 or maybe 13.2 because 12.3 with KDE 4.11.4 is one of the best Opensuse releases in a long time. On my 12.3 machine everything works. Better than it has in many years. I'm happy to let SystemD mature for a while, let the rewrite of Yast progress. Mostly I don't need the disruption right now, do to the press of other business. I usually skip releases along the way. If 13.1 is good, 13.2 should be better. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
George Olson (SUSE list) wrote:
But I am curious to know from those of you who have done the upgrade - are you overall pleased with 13.1? I liked 12.3, but I also like to try and keep things up to date by regularly updating when a new version is out. Anyone have any "big picture" tips specifically directed at what to watch out for with 13.1, besides what may be on the "most annoying bugs" web page?
One issue I've noticed with both 12.x and 13.1 is occasionally, there's something generating a lot of disk activity and pretty much locking up the system for a few minutes. If I am able to get to a console session and run top, I don't see anything hogging the performance. I just had it about 10 minutes ago and I couldn't do anything for a few minutes. This, by the way, is currently on a fresh install with little more than 24 hours on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:06:49 -0500
James Knott
George Olson (SUSE list) wrote:
But I am curious to know from those of you who have done the upgrade - are you overall pleased with 13.1? I liked 12.3, but I also like to try and keep things up to date by regularly updating when a new version is out. Anyone have any "big picture" tips specifically directed at what to watch out for with 13.1, besides what may be on the "most annoying bugs" web page?
One issue I've noticed with both 12.x and 13.1 is occasionally, there's something generating a lot of disk activity and pretty much locking up the system for a few minutes. If I am able to get to a console session and run top, I don't see anything hogging the performance. I just had it about 10 minutes ago and I couldn't do anything for a few minutes. This, by the way, is currently on a fresh install with little more than 24 hours on it.
Hi James, Have you opened task manager to see what is taking up so much cpu time? In many cases it's tracker or nepomuk updating their respective databases. Tom -- It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world, and moral courage so rare. - Mark Twain ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor - retired penguin - KG7CFC AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2 openSUSE 13.1_RC2-x86_64 KDE 4.11.12, FF 24.0, claws-mail 3.9.2 registered linux user 263467 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thomas Taylor wrote:
Hi James, Have you opened task manager to see what is taking up so much cpu time? In many cases it's tracker or nepomuk updating their respective databases.
Well, I can try. But as I mentioned, when this happens, I can't do anything. Also, why should updating any database be such a performance hit? Shouldn't that sort of activity be given a low priority? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-01-10 13:56, James Knott wrote:
Well, I can try. But as I mentioned, when this happens, I can't do anything. Also, why should updating any database be such a performance hit? Shouldn't that sort of activity be given a low priority?
Yes. But for some reason it affects some machines way more than others. In mine, I can do heavy tasks like recoding a dozen videos, using all cpu cores, plus reading and writing from disks, do not make my computer that slugish. Or an rsync backup. But crawling the entire filesystem looking for file names (locate update), or certain cron jobs, even running at low priority, taxes the system more. There is an utility, 'cpulimit', that might be useful to mitigate the issue. Another is 'ionice'. Probably more useful than 'nice'. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
On 10/01/14 12:56, James Knott wrote:
Thomas Taylor wrote:
Hi James, Have you opened task manager to see what is taking up so much cpu time? In many cases it's tracker or nepomuk updating their respective databases.
Well, I can try. But as I mentioned, when this happens, I can't do anything.
Open the task manager *before* you start the operation, or leave it open (semi-)permanently for a while, and you can just look at it when the problem occurs... make it always-on-top or arrange windows so it's visible if you can't even switch windows... Also, why should updating any database be such a performance
hit? Shouldn't that sort of activity be given a low priority?
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On 1/10/2014 5:45 AM, Dylan wrote:
On 10/01/14 12:56, James Knott wrote:
Thomas Taylor wrote:
Hi James, Have you opened task manager to see what is taking up so much cpu time? In many cases it's tracker or nepomuk updating their respective databases.
Well, I can try. But as I mentioned, when this happens, I can't do anything.
Open the task manager *before* you start the operation, or leave it open (semi-)permanently for a while, and you can just look at it when the problem occurs... make it always-on-top or arrange windows so it's visible if you can't even switch windows...
I usually ssh in from another machine and just run top in a terminal session. This spares the busy machine from having an additional load of X tasks to manage. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dylan wrote:
Well, I can try. But as I mentioned, when this happens, I can't do anything.
Open the task manager *before* you start the operation, or leave it open (semi-)permanently for a while, and you can just look at it when the problem occurs... make it always-on-top or arrange windows so it's visible if you can't even switch windows...
I left it running, but it still took a couple of minutes before I could see anything. It doesn't show anything that top doesn't. Regardless, when I could finally see something, it was "plugin-container" that was hogging the resources, as it has in the past. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/10/2014 05:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
One issue I've noticed with both 12.x and 13.1 is occasionally, there's something generating a lot of disk activity and pretty much locking up the system for a few minutes.
- likewise : maybe something to do with ' kswapd ' ? ........ regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
ellanios82 wrote:
One issue I've noticed with both 12.x and 13.1 is occasionally, there's something generating a lot of disk activity and pretty much locking up the system for a few minutes.
- likewise : maybe something to do with ' kswapd ' ?
It's good to know it's not just me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/01/14 09:11, ellanios82 wrote:
On 01/10/2014 05:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
One issue I've noticed with both 12.x and 13.1 is occasionally, there's something generating a lot of disk activity and pretty much locking up the system for a few minutes.
- likewise : maybe something to do with ' kswapd ' ?
........
It may well be totally unrelated, but since I did a fresh install of 12.3 on a dual-core laptop, I was having regular episodes of disk activity which I'd never seen on my old laptop (also running 12.3, but every version of openSUSE prior to that too). I tracked it down in the end to the Lightning component of Thunderbird. Some imported holidays calendars were updating every half an hour and hogging the system for up to a minute each time. Since I set them to update manually I'm not seeing this issue. But this never occurred in Lightning/Thunderbird on my old machine so I don't know why checking one or two simple holiday calendar .ics files would demand so much resources unless there's a bug in the program. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/01/14 15:04, Peter wrote:
On 10/01/14 09:11, ellanios82 wrote:
On 01/10/2014 05:06 AM, James Knott wrote:
One issue I've noticed with both 12.x and 13.1 is occasionally, there's something generating a lot of disk activity and pretty much locking up the system for a few minutes.
- likewise : maybe something to do with ' kswapd ' ?
........
I tracked it down in the end to the Lightning component of Thunderbird. I noticed a similar behaviour here: when I run "compact" on my inbox folder in Thunderbird (800 MB on an MS Exchange server over IMAP), my laptop is also heavily impacted by it (very perceptible sluggishness during the whole operation, complete "freeze" for a couple seconds at
[...] the end of it). This under OpenSuSE 12.3 running on a Thinkpad T530 with 4GB RAM (but with the NIC operating at only 100 Mbps -- perhaps this plays a role). Not much of a problem in my case, since I only compact the folder on request. I just thought I would mention it. Cheers. Bye. Ph. A. -- *Philippe Andersson* Unix System Administrator IBA Particle Therapy | Tel: +32-10-475.983 Fax: +32-10-487.707 eMail: pan@iba-group.com http://www.iba-worldwide.com
On 2014-01-10 16:34, Philippe Andersson wrote:
I noticed a similar behaviour here: when I run "compact" on my inbox folder in Thunderbird (800 MB on an MS Exchange server over IMAP), my laptop is also heavily impacted by it (very perceptible sluggishness during the whole operation, complete "freeze" for a couple seconds at the end of it).
This under OpenSuSE 12.3 running on a Thinkpad T530 with 4GB RAM (but with the NIC operating at only 100 Mbps -- perhaps this plays a role).
On the contrary, it should ease the load. As the network can not transmit as much data as a hard disk can, it means that the CPU has far less data to move than it is in fact capable of. Ok, it is a very rough comparison, but IMO, that operation should not tax a client computer at all. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
Philippe Andersson wrote:
I tracked it down in the end to the Lightning component of Thunderbird. I noticed a similar behaviour here: when I run "compact" on my inbox folder in Thunderbird (800 MB on an MS Exchange server over IMAP), my laptop is also heavily impacted by it (very perceptible sluggishness during the whole operation, complete "freeze" for a couple seconds at the end of it).
I run my own IMAP server and IIRC, with IMAP you don't have to compact. However, I was also running the server on 11.x where this problem didn't occur. When I am able to run top, it doesn't show anything as taking a huge amount of CPU, but the disk is extremely busy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:47:40 +0800, George Olson (SUSE list) wrote:
But I am curious to know from those of you who have done the upgrade - are you overall pleased with 13.1?
Yes. I've upgraded two of three systems now, and am happy with it. The third one is probably going to happen this weekend, just haven't had the time to do it. Remember that on support venues, most of what you see will be people with problems - the successes don't tend to take the time say "it works here." Asking the question is a good thing. :) Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/10/2014 03:08 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:47:40 +0800, George Olson (SUSE list) wrote:
But I am curious to know from those of you who have done the upgrade - are you overall pleased with 13.1? Yes. I've upgraded two of three systems now, and am happy with it. The third one is probably going to happen this weekend, just haven't had the time to do it.
Remember that on support venues, most of what you see will be people with problems - the successes don't tend to take the time say "it works here."
Asking the question is a good thing. :)
Jim
Thanks to all who responded. I am under the impression that it is a good release, it has a few bugs like every other release, but people are mostly happy with it. I will forge ahead! -- George Olson Box #1: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Dylan -
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Felix Miata -
George Olson (SUSE list) -
Günther J. Niederwimmer -
James Knott -
jdd -
Jim Henderson -
John Andersen -
Peter -
Philippe Andersson -
Thomas Taylor